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Justjim75
Justjim75 Dork
9/21/19 9:59 a.m.

In reply to SVreX :

Iphones suck in general (to me at least, how about a "back button"?) but autocorrect screws me up on both iphone and Android so i know how you feel.

Curtis
Curtis GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
9/21/19 10:15 p.m.
T.J. said:

What about when people sale stuff on CL? Or when they say, up for sell? 

The question seems to be weather pour grammer is more worser than none grammer. 

Even worse... when they have their Camero for sell.

Curtis
Curtis GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
9/21/19 10:16 p.m.
Crxpilot said:

The Oxford comma still has a place.  Without it, the last two items in a list become a pair.

Bob, Tom, and Harry are three people.

Bob, Tom and Harry are one guy and a couple.

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Curtis
Curtis GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
9/21/19 10:31 p.m.

As a sorta linguist, and a musician (vocalist) I understand some of the reasons why people can't do grammar well.  It has to do with how their brain processes input vs. output.  Some people honestly have brains that can't process it.  I don't judge them.  It's like the input/output is as if you come to the end of a street and find a cul-de-sac.  How you turn around your input and convert it to output depends on if you're driving a bicycle or an 18-wheeler.  Its the same reason some people can whip out any accent on demand, and others can't find a British accent with a coach and three months training.

The ones that get me are the people who mess up common phrases.

"All of the sudden"
"Irregardless"
"Ek-cetera"
 

ShawnG
ShawnG PowerDork
9/22/19 1:00 a.m.

"On accident"

No, it's "On purpose" or "by accident"

 

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/22/19 8:38 a.m.

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/22/19 3:49 p.m.

Aaron_King
Aaron_King GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
9/22/19 3:50 p.m.

My wife gets upset with the way most people use bring and take.  

ShawnG
ShawnG PowerDork
9/22/19 4:34 p.m.

Commas save lives:

Let's eat Bob!

Let's eat, Bob!

Jumper K Balls (Trent)
Jumper K Balls (Trent) PowerDork
9/22/19 4:50 p.m.

Just noticed that I experience a quick bit of something between a roll eyes and mild anger (I guess I will describe it as annoyance) when people say "verse" instead of "versus"

 

 

Ransom
Ransom GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
9/22/19 4:54 p.m.
Curtis said:

The ones that get me are the people who mess up common phrases.

"All of the sudden"
"Irregardless"
"Ek-cetera"
 

"Unloosen"

"Hone in"

"Expresso"

Suprf1y
Suprf1y UltimaDork
9/22/19 7:40 p.m.
Curtis said:

As a sorta linguist,

The ones that get me are the people who mess up common phrases.

"All of the sudden"
"Irregardless"
"Ek-cetera"
 

Except for the fact that irregardless is a legitimate word and only one of the above is a phrase

aircooled
aircooled MegaDork
9/22/19 8:18 p.m.

And yet, there is another word, that means exactly the same thing, is shorter, and easier to say....

... SO WHY WOULD YOU USE IT?!

ShawnG
ShawnG PowerDork
9/22/19 8:59 p.m.

"mute point" 

Duke
Duke MegaDork
9/23/19 7:13 a.m.

In reply to Suprf1y :

"Irregardless" only became a legitimate word when the dictionary editors finally gave up because so many people used it.  It's still wrong and stupid.

Same as "orientate" instead of "orient".  Just because the noun form is "orientation" does NOT mean that the root verb is "orientate".

"I came out of the house, oriented myself toward the sound, and began walking." THAT is how you use the word.

 

Duke
Duke MegaDork
9/23/19 7:17 a.m.
ShawnG said:

"On accident"

No, it's "On purpose" or "by accident"

THANK YOU.

I'm also annoyed by a similar thing with "set on fire" and "caught on fire".

Increasingly I am hearing people say things like "I almost caught my house on fire."  No, you almost SET your house on fire.  Your house almost CAUGHT on fire.  But YOU did not almost CATCH your house on fire.

 

Duke
Duke MegaDork
9/23/19 7:20 a.m.

And one of my greatest English language peeves:

"Do you want to come with?"

Do I want to come with WHAT?  A bouquet of roses?  A posse of clowns? A six-pack of beer?

Oh, you mean do I want to come with you?  THEN SAY THAT.  "Do you want to come with us?"  <<< See how easy that was?

 

Suprf1y
Suprf1y UltimaDork
9/23/19 7:44 a.m.
Duke said:

In reply to Suprf1y :

"Irregardless" only became a legitimate word when the dictionary editors finally gave up because so many people used it.  It's still wrong and stupid.

Same as "orientate" instead of "orient".  Just because the noun form is "orientation" does NOT mean that the root verb is "orientate".

"I came out of the house, oriented myself toward the sound, and began walking." THAT is how you use the word.

 

Apparently irregardless has been in use for hundreds of years. I don't like it either, but Irregardless of my thoughts, it is still a legitimate word, ans has been for some time. We are of similar mind in regards to orientate, but the dictionary disagrees.

Something that really bothers me is ending a sentence with the word at.

Where are you at?

Not only does it make you look stupid, it's not even necessary. My previous example, I feel like has made it's way into the media (for shame!), I now hear it in Canada.

And I'm not happy about it angry

Curtis
Curtis GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
9/23/19 7:54 a.m.

"This needs cleaned."

No, 'cleaned' is an adjective in this sentence, not a noun.  It should be "needs to be cleaned" or "needs cleaning."

Toyman01
Toyman01 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/23/19 8:05 a.m.

I'm happy to say that it it doesn't bother me much. If I understand what they were trying to get across, I consider the post a success.

And since no grammar thread is complete without this...

 

barefootskater
barefootskater Dork
9/23/19 9:06 a.m.

This thread is awesome.

Most of you seem slightly unhinged. 

I knew there was a reason I felt at home here, and now I know what that reason is. 

spitfirebill
spitfirebill MegaDork
9/23/19 9:14 a.m.

Oh Lort, the grammar nazis are out in force.  

Type Q
Type Q SuperDork
9/23/19 10:12 a.m.

My minor annoyance is when "then" is used instead of "than."

 

My house is smaller THAN Bill Gate's. It costs less THAN his place. But is not smaller or cheaper THEN his place

 

 

 

 

 

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
9/23/19 11:06 a.m.
Suprf1y said:
Duke said:

In reply to Suprf1y :

"Irregardless" only became a legitimate word when the dictionary editors finally gave up because so many people used it.  It's still wrong and stupid.

Same as "orientate" instead of "orient".  Just because the noun form is "orientation" does NOT mean that the root verb is "orientate".

"I came out of the house, oriented myself toward the sound, and began walking." THAT is how you use the word.

 

Apparently irregardless has been in use for hundreds of years. I don't like it either, but Irregardless of my thoughts, it is still a legitimate word, ans has been for some time. We are of similar mind in regards to orientate, but the dictionary disagrees.

Something that really bothers me is ending a sentence with the word at.

Where are you at?

Not only does it make you look stupid, it's not even necessary. My previous example, I feel like has made it's way into the media (for shame!), I now hear it in Canada.

And I'm not happy about it angry

It very plainly says "nonstandard" for the irregardless entry. 

As for ending a sentence with a preposition, nothing wrong with that either. https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/prepositions-ending-a-sentence-with

Yes, in your particular example it can be seen as redundant. But that takes us down a completely new path like "completely destroyed."

Justjim75
Justjim75 Dork
9/23/19 11:45 a.m.

"Decimated" is to reduce by 10%

"1000 men attacked us, but we decimated their army." means they had 900 left.

Edit: fact checked myself and they've changed it to include they improper common usage.

That's like "enthused", which was not a word until the 90s

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