Don´t Work in the Dark | LED Shop Lights Have Gotten Way Inexpensive

David S.
By David S. Wallens
May 18, 2021 | Shop lights

For a while there, LED shop lights were a sign that someone had some cash to burn. But have you priced them lately? They have gotten inexpensive: Several outlets, including Harbor Freight, offer them starting around $25.

But a tip from the art department: You can pick up a six-pack of 4-foot-long LED fixtures for less than $45 total. (As an alternative to using that Amazon link, look for LED T5 Integrated Single Fixtures from a company called Barrina.)

These fixtures feature 20-inch plug-in cords–complete with on/off switch–while you can link them, too. Each lamp weighs less than a pound, making for easy mounting. Double-sided tape works well, we have found. Plus the lamps come with mounts that can be screwed onto a mounting surface.

Where to stick them? So far we have mounted them to the ceiling, beneath cabinets and on lift uprights. 

What's the lifespan? Too early for us to say, but at that price, we're still happy. 

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Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
1/3/21 11:52 a.m.

They sure have. $80 later and I have this. A coat of white paint, and my 3 motorcycle car-hole will glow like the inside of the sun. 

MrFancypants
MrFancypants Reader
1/3/21 12:21 p.m.

I have a bunch of those cheap hand size ones they give away at Harbor Freight. With the hook and magnet you can get light on pretty much anything.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
1/3/21 12:30 p.m.

In reply to MrFancypants :

That little light rocks. 

Ian F (Forum Supporter)
Ian F (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
1/3/21 12:40 p.m.

I have the Barrina type lights all over the place.  I installed two rows of five down each side of my one bay garage.  They do a great job of lighting up the entire garage.  I used the pin-pin connectors and once in awhile the contractions and expansions of my house cause them to pull apart so I have to knock them back together. 

I installed 6 of them in a continuous row slightly offset in my attic.  It's nice to really be able to see up there - well other than now I can really see how much crap I have up there....

In my basement I ran a somewhat convoluted routing of them starting at the switched fixture, then wrapping around the basement.  Again - a plus and minus to now really see how much crap I have down there... 

Tony Sestito
Tony Sestito PowerDork
1/3/21 2:19 p.m.

A discount store here in New England sells twin light 4-footers for $14.99. I have 4 of them in my one-car garage and one in my basement, and they are awesome.  Wherever you get them, LED's are a HUGE upgrade. 

NorseDave
NorseDave Reader
1/3/21 3:03 p.m.

Woah.  I was happy with the single HF 4-foot strip for $20 with a coupon.  If you search that Barrina type, they have a 12-pack for $80.  Might have to pick that up.

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
1/3/21 3:25 p.m.

How timely. I just put 2 new 4' led in the garage. I need more. 

feralcomp
feralcomp
1/3/21 4:27 p.m.

Put a bunch of Amazon 8' units on the ceiling in my last garage.  Showed it to my then-gf once installed.

"Damn," she said.  "It's like a K-mart in here."

 

 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
1/3/21 7:02 p.m.

We have 10 4-foot LEDs in a two-car garage. When we bought the house, the garage was illuminated with just the single-bulb fixture in the middle. 

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/3/21 7:08 p.m.

I'm addicted myself - I've put 16 of them in my two-car garage along with a 2' unit under a shelf to light up a workbench. I just put 6 around my lift like JG's, and it's a really nice improvement. Thanks for the ide.

A friend also recommended these for bigger spaces. If I was doing my shop again, I'd possibly go that way for the main lighting. It's a high ceiling.

www.amazon.com/Lighting-Dimmable-Equivalent-Industrial-Warehouse/dp/B07X23NT7P

I didn't realize led lights were so cheap! Just ordered that six-pack for my little 1.5 car garage. I figure one or two above the work bench and the other four or five around the rest of the space. I have to wear a headlamp when I do any sort of work after dark now ☹️

Ian F (Forum Supporter)
Ian F (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
1/3/21 8:33 p.m.

One side of the garage that shows the LED lights.  

It sort of comes from my time designing lighting for supermarkets, but I'm a fan of running continuous rows of lights as tightly together as possible. That tends to provide the most amount of light with minumal shadows.

wlkelley3
wlkelley3 UberDork
1/3/21 8:36 p.m.

Have heard of some issues with some LED garage lighting. A lot of LEDs are PWM controlled at about 300mhz, so a lot of short range remote devices can be affected. Like garage door openers that operate in around the 315mhz (these usually have the purple button) and FM radios. Some local guys have found this out the hard way. One guy is experimenting with toroid filters to stop this.

Was going to install LED lighting in my garage this winter/spring but now I think I'll wait to see what the guy experimenting with toroid filters figures out.

Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter)
Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
1/3/21 8:44 p.m.
wlkelley3 said:

Have heard of some issues with some LED garage lighting. A lot of LEDs are PWM controlled at about 300mhz, so a lot of short range remote devices can be affected. Like garage door openers that operate in around the 315mhz (these usually have the purple button) and FM radios. Some local guys have found this out the hard way. One guy is experimenting with toroid filters to stop this.

Was going to install LED lighting in my garage this winter/spring but now I think I'll wait to see what the guy experimenting with toroid filters figures out.

I have four of the Costco Feit fixtures in my attached garage with a Chamberlain purple button opener. Never had a single problem. And in my barn, where I replaced 8 big florescent fixtures with 12 Feits, I use AM, FM, TV with an antenna, and Bluetooth with no issues. Ironically, the old florescents caused a lot more interference.

GCrites80s
GCrites80s HalfDork
1/3/21 8:53 p.m.

Props for providing an Amazon alternative. They've got enough money for now. Other businesses don't.

lotusseven7 (Forum Supporter)
lotusseven7 (Forum Supporter) HalfDork
1/3/21 9:10 p.m.

Funny how this thread shows up now as I've been debating the lighting in my new building. There are 20 2x4 troffer lights in the work and storage areas, most of which have either burned-out bulbs or ballasts that need replacement. I considered LED "ballast by-pass" bulbs, but that is LOTS of work wiring all of them. My brother suggested buying cheap LED lights and just screwing them to the ceiling and replace when they burn out. I spent considerable time searching for lights, reading reviews and trying to make a decision. 
 

I decided to go with the Barrina brand mainly because of the price($7.08/light). Hopefully 48 will take care of the 3 areas I need to illuminate. Now to figure out what to do with the existing fixtures? Depower and leave in place? Remove?

 

Ian F (Forum Supporter)
Ian F (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
1/3/21 9:51 p.m.

In reply to lotusseven7 (Forum Supporter) :

I suppose it depends on how you plan to install and power the new fixtures.  If you go through the effort to de-power them then I would remove them and install new ceiling tiles.  Rest assured you'll eventually want to install something in the ceiling that will inevitably be right where one of the fixtures is.  

My garage has always had spotty radio reception although I'm not sure if it's related to the existing fluorescent fixtures I left in place after installing the LED fixtures.  I do want to figure out how to get reliable tunes into the garage, so eventually I'll think of something. 

aircooled
aircooled MegaDork
1/3/21 10:15 p.m.

I use one as a rather extreme work light.  It of course is big, but lights up a big area and since the covering is plastic, it's pretty immune to damage (I have even stepped on it a bit).  I suspect with the addition of some glued on magnets, it would make a great under hood light.

For the garage above, you might consider replacing the light boxes with power outlets.  You can plug your new lights into them and also have another option to getting power to the middle of the garage (which is only powered when the light are on of course).

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
1/3/21 10:58 p.m.

In reply to David S. Wallens :

That bare bulb on a porcelain base in the center of the room is affectionately known as a Soviet light.

Paul_VR6 (Forum Supporter)
Paul_VR6 (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
1/4/21 7:38 a.m.
aircooled said:

I use one as a rather extreme work light.  It of course is big, but lights up a big area and since the covering is plastic, it's pretty immune to damage (I have even stepped on it a bit).  I suspect with the addition of some glued on magnets, it would make a great under hood light.

I like this idea and I think I am going to try it. 

Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter)
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1/4/21 7:56 a.m.
aircooled said:

I use one as a rather extreme work light.  It of course is big, but lights up a big area and since the covering is plastic, it's pretty immune to damage (I have even stepped on it a bit).  I suspect with the addition of some glued on magnets, it would make a great under hood light.

I kinda did that. I attached one to a 1x4 with some casters and I use it for under-car work. You can see it here under the Boxster:

engiekev
engiekev HalfDork
1/4/21 8:08 a.m.
Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) said:
aircooled said:

I use one as a rather extreme work light.  It of course is big, but lights up a big area and since the covering is plastic, it's pretty immune to damage (I have even stepped on it a bit).  I suspect with the addition of some glued on magnets, it would make a great under hood light.

I kinda did that. I attached one to a 1x4 with some casters and I use it for under-car work. You can see it here under the Boxster:

 

That's a crazy good idea! It seems like the big portable shop lights are still quite expensive and the batteries don't last that long.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
1/4/21 10:46 a.m.

In reply to Appleseed :

I had to leave it. See also: How the 40 Watt Club in Athens got its name. 

RevRico
RevRico UltimaDork
1/4/21 10:59 a.m.

So I have a question now that some of mine are starting to hit 5-7 years old. They are all self contained pull string leds, some look like a long strip, some look like a white tube.

When we moved into the new house in May I hung a well used 4 footer in my shop room. After about a month of very infrequent use, it only started lighting about half way.

Fast forward a few months I replaced it with a slightly newer unused 4 footer, and within a week, it's at half brightness and I left it on 24/7 to eliminate any "startup"issues.

Think cold fluorescent tube in a magnetic ballast. The light's there, like it wants to come up, but doesn't.

Same brand of light I had in my exposed carport for 4 years with no problems even in winter and rain. The first light I hung was actually from the carport so it was known working when installed.

Could this be a fluke of the light drivers, or could it be indicative of a bigger electrical problem.

Possibly related, I've had an incandescent literally explode in the ceiling fan, and lost 8-9 incandescent through burnouts over a period of 10 days, all on different circuits around the house.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/4/21 11:19 a.m.

I'd make sure you had surge protectors on any electronics on the house, that sounds like an unstable power supply.

codrus (Forum Supporter)
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1/4/21 11:34 a.m.

Surge protectors don't actually do all that much.  There's no reason not to use them, but I wouldn't count on them to protect anything expensive.

I agree though that it's worth checking the voltage and polarity of the outlets in your house.  Electrical fires suck.  Something like this is cheap and easy:  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B081ZL5PCV

 

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/4/21 11:58 a.m.

Voltage regulators, power conditioners, whatever. I would want to monitor voltage over time in this house.

RevRico
RevRico UltimaDork
1/4/21 12:03 p.m.

It's slowly going to get rewired. Easy stuff first, which is the fuse box the shop room runs off of, then the basement that needs gutted anyway, then probably with conduit and surface mount boxes, the rest of the house. Then if we ever get really rich, properly replace the stuff in the walls.

Current suspicions are a loose neutral or floating ground. 

mfennell
mfennell Reader
1/4/21 12:17 p.m.
Appleseed said:

In reply to David S. Wallens :

That bare bulb on a porcelain base in the center of the room is affectionately known as a Soviet light.

That's awesome.  My 26X20' garage was illuminated exactly that way when we moved in.  I now have a total of 24 4' T8 fluorescents.

These LEDs look like the perfect choice for under my lift, so I can see the car below.

I also have a couple of these 48" rechargeable harbor freight work lights: https://www.harborfreight.com/845-lumen-underhood-rechargeable-work-light-63990.html. 845 lumens.  I either hang them from a hood, or just lay them in the engine compartment, depending on what I'm going.  They're super sweet when the power goes out too.

Stefan (Forum Supporter)
Stefan (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/4/21 12:57 p.m.

So, a sorta related question; are converting existing 4ft fixtures worth it?

If so, what parts are better than others?

I still have a box of tubes to use up, but if there's a good deal on some LED conversions I may not wait for them to get used up.

codrus (Forum Supporter)
codrus (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UberDork
1/4/21 4:00 p.m.
RevRico said:

It's slowly going to get rewired. Easy stuff first, which is the fuse box the shop room runs off of, then the basement that needs gutted anyway, then probably with conduit and surface mount boxes, the rest of the house. Then if we ever get really rich, properly replace the stuff in the walls.

Current suspicions are a loose neutral or floating ground. 

While I understand that replacing wiring is expensive and time consuming, the potential for fires is real.  This kind of thing kills people.

 

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/4/21 4:07 p.m.
Stefan (Forum Supporter) said:

So, a sorta related question; are converting existing 4ft fixtures worth it?

If so, what parts are better than others?

I still have a box of tubes to use up, but if there's a good deal on some LED conversions I may not wait for them to get used up.

I've converted a couple of my 8' fixtures as well as 2' ones to LED using "tubes" from Hyperikon. No complaints and I've had the 8' ones for three years. You have to bypass the ballast but that's an easy enough job, even standing on a 16' ladder. They put out more light than the tubes I pulled out and light up immediately. No regrets.

More info: the reason I went this direction is because the 8' tubes were in suspended fixtures and the 2' tubes were in a ceiling box that was exactly 2' wide so there was no room for the power cord that sticks out of the end of a Barrina.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
1/4/21 9:29 p.m.
MrFancypants said:

I have a bunch of those cheap hand size ones they give away at Harbor Freight. With the hook and magnet you can get light on pretty much anything.

Totally put one to work last night. 

Duke
Duke MegaDork
1/5/21 8:06 a.m.

I actually have a pair of T5 fluorescent fixtures new in the box.  That's how long they've been waiting for me to get off my ass and install them.

I also have a pair of 2x2 surface mount LED fixtures that were office lighting samples a rep gave me.  They still need to be hung, too.

 

84FSP
84FSP UltraDork
1/5/21 8:42 a.m.
Keith Tanner said:
Stefan (Forum Supporter) said:

So, a sorta related question; are converting existing 4ft fixtures worth it?

If so, what parts are better than others?

I still have a box of tubes to use up, but if there's a good deal on some LED conversions I may not wait for them to get used up.

I've converted a couple of my 8' fixtures as well as 2' ones to LED using "tubes" from Hyperikon. No complaints and I've had the 8' ones for three years. You have to bypass the ballast but that's an easy enough job, even standing on a 16' ladder. They put out more light than the tubes I pulled out and light up immediately. No regrets.

More info: the reason I went this direction is because the 8' tubes were in suspended fixtures and the 2' tubes were in a ceiling box that was exactly 2' wide so there was no room for the power cord that sticks out of the end of a Barrina.

The Hyperkon site gave a quick run down on the bypass or dummy ballast method making it look simple.  I already have nice 4' 4 bulb units built in so the retrofit is an easier way to do the job.  Now to price out the bulbs.

RevRico
RevRico UltimaDork
1/5/21 8:46 a.m.

In reply to 84FSP :

Samsung direct drop in T8 LED tubes were $8 each at home depot last year. No wiring, no worries about the ballast, just swap the bulbs. Made a hell of a difference in my laundry room at the old house. 

wae
wae UberDork
1/5/21 8:50 a.m.
RevRico said:

In reply to 84FSP :

Samsung direct drop in T8 LED tubes were $8 each at home depot last year. No wiring, no worries about the ballast, just swap the bulbs. Made a hell of a difference in my laundry room at the old house. 

When you go shopping for those, be sure to read the box.  Some of them require certain ballasts to work but still try to pass themselves off as a direct replacement for tubes and hide the ballast requirements in the fine print.  I wound up with a carton of those from Philips, I think.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/5/21 11:23 a.m.
84FSP said:
Keith Tanner said:
Stefan (Forum Supporter) said:

So, a sorta related question; are converting existing 4ft fixtures worth it?

If so, what parts are better than others?

I still have a box of tubes to use up, but if there's a good deal on some LED conversions I may not wait for them to get used up.

I've converted a couple of my 8' fixtures as well as 2' ones to LED using "tubes" from Hyperikon. No complaints and I've had the 8' ones for three years. You have to bypass the ballast but that's an easy enough job, even standing on a 16' ladder. They put out more light than the tubes I pulled out and light up immediately. No regrets.

More info: the reason I went this direction is because the 8' tubes were in suspended fixtures and the 2' tubes were in a ceiling box that was exactly 2' wide so there was no room for the power cord that sticks out of the end of a Barrina.

The Hyperkon site gave a quick run down on the bypass or dummy ballast method making it look simple.  I already have nice 4' 4 bulb units built in so the retrofit is an easier way to do the job.  Now to price out the bulbs.

If you can't figure out the ballast bypass you should just put down the wire nuts and step away from the fusebox :) Hot to one end of the tube, neutral to the other, done.

GhiaMonster
GhiaMonster Reader
1/5/21 11:34 a.m.

Thanks to this article I am finally upping my lighting game in the garage. I'm trying out two of the UFO high bay LED lights as an upgrade to the bare 75W bulbs mounted at the 12' ceiling.  A cheap LED tube over the workbench has been a huge upgrade on it's own.  

RevolverRob
RevolverRob New Reader
1/5/21 12:25 p.m.

I started with a single bulb, off to the side. I just daisychained 8 of the Barrina lights together and tied them back into the bulb socket.

From this:

To this:

 

aircooled said:

I use one as a rather extreme work light.  It of course is big, but lights up a big area and since the covering is plastic, it's pretty immune to damage (I have even stepped on it a bit).  I suspect with the addition of some glued on magnets, it would make a great under hood light.

For the garage above, you might consider replacing the light boxes with power outlets.  You can plug your new lights into them and also have another option to getting power to the middle of the garage (which is only powered when the light are on of course).

I too have done this. I have two of the lights and have laid them under the car or in the engine compartment, etc. Basically big droplights. I've also stepped on mine a few times without any issues. I like these things quite a bit. I like the idea of gluing some magnets to them. I think I'll do just that. I can see it being useful for attaching them to each other, the toolbox, the car, etc. Solid idea!

I do have an old Halogen exterior flood light that my dad attached years ago to a small furniture dolly. It cranes up and down and works great under/around a car. Also, when it's chilly in the garage, it puts out heat that an LED never will.

james Kepford
james Kepford GRM+ Memberand New Reader
1/6/21 8:37 a.m.

In reply to Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) :

Same in my Garage, I have 12 of the Costco led lights and have no problems with the garage door openers.

Shawn_D
Shawn_D New Reader
1/6/21 8:47 a.m.

Both of these photos were taken with a DSLR on full manual (exposure and focus) on a tripod, at the same settings.

Darker photo:  2X T8 fixture down the middle of the garage, longitudinally roughly in line with the fender on the '57.

Lighter photo:  4X Koda LED lights from Costco, each laterally in line with each garage door rail, longitudinally centered on front edge of '57.  The problem with this installation is that you have to reflect the remote's IR signal off just the right spot on the wall to get all four lights on or off at the same time -- most of the time, it takes 4-5 times to get them all on or off.

I also have a Koda LED light in my basement workshop, with the motion-detector set for full sensitivity.  This is quite handy, especially when I'm carrying things.  The only issue I have with this one is that the "off" timer often doesn't kick in, so I can see that the light is still on long after it should have shut off.

 

Ian F (Forum Supporter)
Ian F (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
1/6/21 8:48 a.m.

I was in the basement yesterday and also had the radio playing through the stereo on the main floor and noticed that when the LED (Barinna) lights are on in the basement there is significant interference with the radio reception. Goes away after I turn the lights off.  

mike_grassroots
mike_grassroots New Reader
1/6/21 8:51 a.m.

I replaced the original fixtures from the 1970s with 8 LED shop lights.  For less than a couple hours of work and less than a couple hundred dollars, lighting has been the best improvement I've made in the garage.

Vigo (Forum Supporter)
Vigo (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
1/6/21 9:03 a.m.

I've got 8 x 8ft Barrinas in my 20x25 shop and I have 4 more that I haven't mounted due to laziness. I'm generally very happy with them for the money. The only thing that annoyed me is that i bought the first set of 6 and spaced them as far apart as their jumper cords would allow without modding, and then when I bought the second set maybe 6mo-1yr later and tried to mount them 3-across (24ft of light just fits inside my 25ft wide building) with the end-to-end butt connectors, i discovered that they had flipped the triangle shape of the connector so that all the lights on each row had to be of the same type. This annoyed me because i had to shuffle the existing lights around between locations to make that work, and I dont see any benefit to them making that running change. Other than that, very happy with my Barrina LEDs.

bluej (Forum Supporter)
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1/6/21 1:06 p.m.

I ran a couple pieces of string at just below open garage door height between the side walls of my 2-car garage, then punched a few slots in each end of a pair of the barrina lights. Zip ties through the holes and around the string mean I have a pair of lights I can slide from one side of the garage to the other. There's a string that runs between the two main light runs for the cables to follow and meet at an extension with a triple socket, so I have at least one outlet right there as well.

TurboTodd
TurboTodd New Reader
3/6/21 9:36 a.m.

130 lumens/sq ft is a nice level. Putting the strips laterally between cars does the best job of eliminating shadows for me in a low bay.  5 longitudinal by 4 wide LED grid in a 3 bay, wired odds and evens for 40% or 60% power at flip of a switch.  Still use some task lighting, but this makes everything much easier.  And tripod bulbs in the original sockets. Not as bright as fluorescent, but not bothered by cold temps.

Paul_VR6 (Forum Supporter)
Paul_VR6 (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
3/6/21 6:47 p.m.

This is a pair of the 4' from the link in the 1st post. A hair yellow but good for task lighting. 
 

Vajingo
Vajingo HalfDork
5/12/21 9:41 a.m.

Question- can I use a socket to two prong plug and then a two prong to three prong adapter? My lights are three prong and I don't have a nearby outlet, but do have socketed bulb outlets. 

thewheelman
thewheelman Reader
5/12/21 11:25 a.m.

In reply to Vajingo :

It would be better to replace the current lampholder with one that has a built-in three prong socket. 

https://www.amazon.com/GE-Porcelain-Lampholder-Grounded-18305/dp/B008DB3JRY/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=lamp+holder+with+socket&qid=1620836664&sr=8-5

Vajingo
Vajingo HalfDork
5/12/21 12:38 p.m.

In reply to thewheelman :

Yeah I agree, but if I'm going that far with it I may as well just put in a single gang outlet. 

pinchvalve (Forum Supporter)
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5/12/21 3:56 p.m.

 

I just picked up a pair similar to this at Costco, a great addition to the two sockets I had in the garage. SUPER bright and a quick way to upgrade from a 100W industrial bulb. Much cooler too.

 

 

Rocambolesque
Rocambolesque Reader
5/12/21 9:10 p.m.

Here's my setup:

Two 8ft 72W Barrina tubes on each of the 3 walls. Each switch controls 3 tubes, so I can choose to light up either one side only or both sides. I can work inside the car, under the hood, even under the car without a worklight. It's honestly the best upgrade I did to my little shop.

Floating Doc (Forum Supporter)
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5/18/21 6:37 a.m.

I impulse bought a pair of four foot LED lights from Sam's Club. Just adding those to the garage made an amazing difference when I put them up last night. 
 

The Barrina 12 pack is ordered. 

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7/15/21 7:24 a.m.
David S. Wallens said:
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For a while there, LED shop lights were a sign that someone had some cash to burn. But have you priced them lately? They have gotten inexpensive: Several outlets, including Harbor Freight, offer them starting around $25.

But a tip from the art department: You can pick up a six-pack of 4-foot-long …

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So for those of you that have mounted these to a lift, how do you like them? 

It seems like half the time you're going to be blinded looking into them. 

I'm getting ready to get a lift and want to do something along these lines if it is actually beneficial. 

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
7/15/21 12:31 p.m.

In reply to AWSX1686 (Forum Supporter) :

I did that after seeing JG's pictures and it's been fantastic. The light is diffuse enough that you don't get blinded looking at them, everything is just brighter. You really don't realize how much of a difference is makes until you pull a car in and the car just glows. Highly recommended.

The back half of my shop is not highly lit, everything's focused on the front with some big LED panel lighting. But here's the lift light.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
7/15/21 12:33 p.m.

By the way, I'm going to add more lights to our garage. smiley

aircooled
aircooled MegaDork
7/15/21 12:59 p.m.

At least with the HF versions, they all have pull cords on them, so they are easy to shut on and off individually if you want.

Also, don't forget (I think I mentioned it in this thread already), using a single "bulb" one as a super long portable shop light can be VERY handy.  They are very light and very sturdy.  I have stepped on mine, no issue.  I should experiment with gluing some magnets on mine....

AWSX1686 (Forum Supporter)
AWSX1686 (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
7/15/21 1:37 p.m.

In reply to Keith Tanner :

Thanks for the reply. 

So it looks like you have the lights on the "front and back" of the lift posts, not pointed directly at the car, am I seeing that right? 

I guess they give a wide enough span of light that it still works well. 

 

I went ahead and ordered a 6 pack of the normal Barrina lights and a 10 pack of the higher lumen output lights. Planning to test what I like where before I order more. 

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 MegaDork
7/15/21 1:42 p.m.

Bah!  Humbug!

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
7/15/21 1:45 p.m.

In reply to AWSX1686 (Forum Supporter) :

My lift has rotated posts, I forget what the style is called - offset? I have the lights as close as I can to the car, enough that you can see them as you approach the lift. I can get more pics if that would be helpful.

AWSX1686 (Forum Supporter)
AWSX1686 (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
7/15/21 2:22 p.m.

In reply to Keith Tanner :

Ahh, I see. I believe those are asymmetric posts then. I would like a lift with those, but looks like I'm likely getting a lift with squared off posts. 

If you get the chance to get some pics, I certainly wouldn't be disappointed to see them, but no need to go out of your way to get some. I appreciate all the feedback and tips.  

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 MegaDork
11/4/21 9:58 a.m.

Dragging this thread up from the past to inquire about longevity.  How are these, particularly the Barrina, holding up with regular use?  A fair number of reviews indicate a lifespan of 1 - 1.5 years, and that's roughly consistent with Chinese-made LED's made for home lighting.

I need to be out in the garage this winter, and while I'll be throwing heat into an uninsulated space, that space is too dark with my current lighting and the overhead doors closed, and heating with the doors open would obviously be futile.  Looking to supplement, not replace, my 8-ft. fluorescents.

Let's leave the politics of green lighting out of it.  Do these cheapo Amazon lights hold up?

Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter)
Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
11/4/21 10:26 a.m.

I have the Costco Feit lights in my barn, and I'm not sure how many years it's been, but at least 5. They still work perfectly.

akylekoz
akylekoz SuperDork
11/4/21 10:27 a.m.

In reply to Keith Tanner :

9000 lb, extra wide, asymmetric lift.  I have the same one and will steal your lighting idea.  
Best feature of this lift is the doors end up behind the posts in stead of right next to them.  

Looks like two 4' lights connected, this will work for my 8' fluorescents that are dead.

AWSX1686 (Forum Supporter)
AWSX1686 (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
11/4/21 10:58 a.m.
akylekoz said:

In reply to Keith Tanner :

Best feature of this lift is the doors end up behind the posts in stead of right next to them.  

That's the only thing I'd change about my lift, but with availability and shipping, getting the one I get was definitely the easiest and likely cheapest route. 

ddavidv
ddavidv UltimaDork
11/4/21 10:59 a.m.

Do not buy the single tube cheap ones from Lowe's. I just threw one out this week after less than a year and another one is flickering. They were really cheap, so I probably deserve what I got.

pres589 (djronnebaum)
pres589 (djronnebaum) UltimaDork
11/4/21 1:42 p.m.

I put cheap T8 LED tubes in flourescent fixtures (rewired to bypass the ballast) and have purchased individual "Commerical Electric" brand LED hanging assemblies from H-Depot that were something like $20 each that plug in, have a pull chain, and are linkable.  The T8's are still going strong after four years and multiple moves across the country.  The complete cheapie assemblies are a little younger at three years but otherwise great.  Would buy more of each if/when I need more light in the garage.  

Planning on setting up a mix of LED tubes and bulbs in the garage soon.  Really looking forward to having a competent light scheme out there.

docwyte
docwyte PowerDork
11/4/21 6:07 p.m.

Are there LED bulbs that just plug n play into the older flourescent fixtures?  I've got a bunch of fixtures in my garage and it'd be nice to convert them over to LED

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
5/23/22 5:25 p.m.
docwyte said:

Are there LED bulbs that just plug n play into the older flourescent fixtures?  I've got a bunch of fixtures in my garage and it'd be nice to convert them over to LED

You know, my old fixtures were so old, that I didn't even consider that. Plus, the new ones are light–like just a few ounces each. I figured I'd just start with all new stuff. 

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/23/22 7:01 p.m.
docwyte said:

Are there LED bulbs that just plug n play into the older flourescent fixtures?  I've got a bunch of fixtures in my garage and it'd be nice to convert them over to LED

Yes. You just have to bypass the ballast. I have a couple of 4' ones in my highest fixtures. I also used 2' "led replacement tubes" in some recessed lights in the kitchen that were framed into an exact 2' box. In those cases, it was easier than trying to replace the whole fixture.

The ceiling lights in this pic are using the LED replacement tubes.

To answer the lifespan question from a while back - I haven't had a Barrinna fail yet. They're in the kitchen, the garage, the shop and my wife's sewing room. I started putting them up about 4 years ago. 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
5/24/22 1:11 p.m.

In reply to Keith Tanner :

The new LED fixtures were so light (ha!) and inexpensive that I didn't even consider converting the old ones. Was it worth it? 

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/24/22 1:45 p.m.
David S. Wallens said:

In reply to Keith Tanner :

The new LED fixtures were so light (ha!) and inexpensive that I didn't even consider converting the old ones. Was it worth it? 

I think so. In the garage, it was a lot easier to pop new "tubes" in there than to rewire outlets for Barrinas - especially given the height off the floor. In the recessed case, the Barrinas simply wouldn't have fit because a 2' Barrina needs enough room for the plug sticking out the end, while a 2' fluorescent fixture only needs 2' and that's exactly how the recessed boxes were built. I wouldn't do it if I were starting from scratch, but it's an easy retrofit option.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
5/24/22 2:46 p.m.

Okay, that makes sense. My old lamps were plugged in via standard outlets in the ceiling. So I just removed and replaced all of the fixtures, flush mounting the new ones to the ceiling. 

Ian F (Forum Supporter)
Ian F (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
5/24/22 3:24 p.m.
Vajingo said:

Question- can I use a socket to two prong plug and then a two prong to three prong adapter? My lights are three prong and I don't have a nearby outlet, but do have socketed bulb outlets. 

That is what I did when installing these fixtures in my attic: plugged into a socket adapter in one of the existing screw-in lights.

pres589 (djronnebaum)
pres589 (djronnebaum) UltimaDork
5/24/22 3:54 p.m.

Could always just change the light socket for a normal electrical outlet.  Would probably lack a true electrical neutral but your adapter doesn't offer that properly either.

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