How do you like your classic split-spoke wheels?

David S.
By David S. Wallens
Apr 13, 2022 | wheels

Photograph Courtesy Mackin Industries

When it comes to split-spoke wheels, what do you like? Classic BBS or a different take?

A well-defined pocket around the lugs or a more gradual transition into the spokes? Parallel spokes or ones that converge a bit? One- or three-piece construction? How much lip–or do you prefer spokes that run all the way to the edge of the rim?

And we haven’t even gotten to colors or construction techniques.

Discuss.

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Tom1200
Tom1200 UltraDork
4/12/22 12:54 p.m.

Gotta be classic BBS.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
4/12/22 12:59 p.m.

I am going to say that the new Volk 21A–that’s it in the lead photo–got me thinking about this topic. Each brand has its own take on a long-time fave. 

pinchvalve (Forum Supporter)
pinchvalve (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/12/22 2:11 p.m.

The picture is about perfect for me. I HATE center sections that protrude from the lip in any way, I will snag that on every curb from here to Seattle. I LOVE deep-dish wheels, though I understand that it not an option for most modern cars, so these strike a good balance for me. 

I also like the number of spokes; too few make the wheel look weak, too many makes it look heavy. This is about right. 

My only change would be more space around the bolt/lug holes, I like some clearance for my socket.  

pres589 (djronnebaum)
pres589 (djronnebaum) UltimaDork
4/12/22 2:29 p.m.

I have always like Enkei RFP1's.  They look good on everything I see them on.  Example;

 

STM317
STM317 PowerDork
4/12/22 2:41 p.m.

Forgeline can really do no wrong as far as I'm concerned

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/12/22 2:51 p.m.

BMW Style 65 for me. Best looking wheel BMW has ever made, especially in the 18x9.5. Also brutally expensive.

 

Brett_Murphy (Agent of Chaos)
Brett_Murphy (Agent of Chaos) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/12/22 4:05 p.m.

The ones I have. BBS RKs, I think.

 

frenchyd
frenchyd MegaDork
4/12/22 4:08 p.m.

In reply to David S. Wallens :

As a racer I gotta get rid of brake heat.  The more open the wheel the greater the heat radiation is. 

Feedyurhed
Feedyurhed UltraDork
4/12/22 4:17 p.m.

Hey Dave,  I am a wheel guy like you. I look at them like art. I have sets of wheels that I have purchased brand new over the years and have never even had them mounted, preferring just to look at them.

rodknock
rodknock Reader
4/12/22 4:48 p.m.

I've always had a soft spot for Work's VS-XX. 

gumby
gumby GRM+ Memberand Dork
4/12/22 5:21 p.m.

Somebody say split-spokes?

Driven5
Driven5 UberDork
4/12/22 5:54 p.m.

In reply to Keith Tanner :

Oof. No thanks. Way too busy. BMW wheel styling peaked with the Style 37 (M-Parallel)... Like RPF1's, they're a timeless exercise in the beauty of simplicity that continues to look great almost anywhere they're used.

 

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/12/22 5:57 p.m.

In reply to Driven5 :

Normally I go for the clean and simple, but the 65 just works for me. I think they suit the car really well, more so than the pared down parallels. Some of that is probably association with the only car that ever wore the 65 :)

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
4/12/22 7:06 p.m.

In reply to Feedyurhed :

I admit, yes, I'm a wheel guy. I go back 20+ years with a friend who's president of a wheel company–a player in our scene. Several late-night FB message chats have, yes, discussed wheels. :)

 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
4/12/22 7:30 p.m.

And speaking of split spokes, just snapped this a few minutes ago. 

davbro
davbro New Reader
4/12/22 7:41 p.m.

Something about the style 68s that I just love...I have lost count how many I own now.  Gonna try powdercoating a set...maybe gun metal

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
4/12/22 8:55 p.m.

The Kosei T1 was always a nice looking wheel.  
 

codrus (Forum Supporter)
codrus (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
4/12/22 9:03 p.m.
David S. Wallens said:

And speaking of split spokes, just snapped this a few minutes ago. 

I'm a big fan of Apex wheels, I have a number of them for my E46. :)

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
4/12/22 9:27 p.m.

In reply to codrus (Forum Supporter) :

Looks terrific. What specs are you running? 

grover
grover GRM+ Memberand Dork
4/12/22 9:33 p.m.

I have always thought the tl-s rims were a fantastic OEM wheel. That said- after seeing the others posted I agree with Keith.  Those things are insane. Is they the M8? 

ae86andkp61 (Forum Supporter)
ae86andkp61 (Forum Supporter) Dork
4/12/22 9:39 p.m.

Another vote for Work VS-XX, especially with a gold, bronze, or grey center and a low offset. Even the step-lip version looks good, but the big flat lip just grabs me!

Feedyurhed
Feedyurhed UltraDork
4/12/22 9:54 p.m.

 

I like the 949 Racing wheels. I am thinking about getting a set for the Miata.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/12/22 10:05 p.m.

In reply to grover :

The BMW Style 65 was only used on the E39 M5. There are knockoffs of the 18x8 fronts. 

NOT A TA
NOT A TA UltraDork
4/12/22 10:41 p.m.

Rushforth Night Trains on my Firebird.

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grover
grover GRM+ Memberand Dork
4/12/22 10:50 p.m.

In reply to Keith Tanner :

Another car that has gone out of my price range. Literally told my wife this 5 minutes ago. 

codrus (Forum Supporter)
codrus (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
4/13/22 12:22 a.m.
David S. Wallens said:

In reply to codrus (Forum Supporter) :

Looks terrific. What specs are you running? 

I run 275/35R18s (either NT01s or Toyo RRs) on 18x10s for track days, and (soon) 245/40R18 Hoosier R7s on 18x9.5s for NASA ST4.  The Hoosiers need to be on the slightly narrower wheel to fit in the 266mm NASA template.

 

Aaron_King
Aaron_King PowerDork
4/13/22 9:42 a.m.

BBS RK II

 

 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
4/13/22 9:51 a.m.

In reply to codrus (Forum Supporter) :

Thanks. And that all fit without massaging the fenders? 

codrus (Forum Supporter)
codrus (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
4/13/22 9:57 a.m.
David S. Wallens said:

Thanks. And that all fit without massaging the fenders? 

The 275s fit with some rolling.  The car was built by a pro race shop, so I'm not sure exactly how much they needed to do for the 275s but it did not require paint work.  I believe the 275s also require significant camber to fit -- fine for a race car, but probably too much for a street car.

Later they massaged the fenders some more (which did require paint work) and it will now fit 295/30R18 Toyo RRs, which are significantly cheaper than the 275s for some reason.

ian sane
ian sane Dork
4/13/22 11:07 a.m.

I have always liked split 5 spokes. The BBS RK is probably the halo and variations of the c5z wheel were always on my mind. But for some reason they have to be big for the proportions to work in my brain. 18"+

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
4/13/22 11:19 a.m.

And a submission from the BimmerWorld crew: the brand’s own TA5R.

 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
4/13/22 11:22 a.m.

And another one from the BimmerWorld team, currently en route to their SRO season-opener. Wheels are Forgeline GA3R.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/13/22 11:54 a.m.

I did like the BBS RCs I had on my Golf back in the day. 
 

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/13/22 11:56 a.m.

Some Miata shop has a cool design as well. 

Indy - Guy
Indy - Guy PowerDork
4/13/22 12:00 p.m.

Indy - Guy
Indy - Guy PowerDork
4/13/22 12:01 p.m.

Best BMW wheel ever !

Tony Sestito
Tony Sestito UltimaDork
4/13/22 12:58 p.m.

Love me some mesh/split spoke wheels. Kinda partial to these. 

chandler
chandler UltimaDork
4/13/22 9:35 p.m.

My Fikse are really the only ones that beat the original BBS in my book, there is a lot of awesome in this thread though.

Slippery
Slippery GRM+ Memberand UberDork
4/13/22 9:44 p.m.

Are the BBS RS001 on my e30 considered split or mesh spoke?



smokeysevin
smokeysevin New Reader
4/13/22 11:04 p.m.

I really like the TSW Nurburgring. A buddy of mine ran these on his ZL1 and they were slick looking.

As for stock wheels, I have been really happy with the stock wheels on my 2019 Series Grey (Series White Version Shown Below in Bronze)

 

Sean

Feedyurhed
Feedyurhed UltraDork
4/14/22 6:06 a.m.
Slippery said:

Are the BBS RS001 on my e30 considered split or mesh spoke?



Not sure but it's always a pleasure to see such a nice E30. BMW got it so right back then.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
4/14/22 12:51 p.m.

In reply to Slippery :

I think split-spokes are a little different than mesh or basket weaves but, really, no wrong answers here. 

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
4/14/22 1:20 p.m.

In tri-spoke form please.

 

Brett_Murphy (Agent of Chaos)
Brett_Murphy (Agent of Chaos) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/14/22 1:38 p.m.
David S. Wallens said:

And a submission from the BimmerWorld crew: the brand’s own TA5R.

 

Those are BBS RK knockoffs wink

Brett_Murphy (Agent of Chaos)
Brett_Murphy (Agent of Chaos) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/14/22 1:39 p.m.
David S. Wallens said:

And another one from the BimmerWorld team, currently en route to their SRO season-opener. Wheels are Forgeline GA3R.

 

These also look like BBS RK knockoffs. laugh

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
4/14/22 2:48 p.m.
93EXCivic said:

In tri-spoke form please.

 

Yum.

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
4/14/22 8:27 p.m.

I can appreciate split spokes, but I never had anything new enough to really have them fit the look.  Big ole chunky five spokes for me.

te72
te72 Reader
4/14/22 8:54 p.m.

Advan SA3R that 93EXCivic posted above are among my favorites, however, how do you all call yourselves wheel guys when I see not one mention of what is clearly the best split spoke design for Japanese cars, ever, the Blitz Type 03?

 

 

Admittedly, it looks a lot like the OEM R33 GT-R wheel, but you can get this one in all sorts of sizes, lip styles, colors, etc... down side is, they're stupid expensive these days. As in, this specific set that's BNIB above, costs about what an ND1 does at the moment. Not joking.

 

Since I know that we have some MR2 fans around here:

 

1994 Toyota MR2 Blitz Type 03 Stock Stock | Fitment Industries

 

S14 anyone?

 

CA RARE BLITZ Type 03 | 18x9 +9 | 18x10 +22 | 5x114.3 | SOLD! - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX ...

 

FD:

1993 Mazda RX-7 on Blitz Type 03

 

And since I'm a little biased here, just a bit, a jelly bean:

1994 Toyota Supra on Blitz Type 03

Indy - Guy
Indy - Guy PowerDork
4/14/22 9:04 p.m.

In reply to te72 :

Ok, those do look pretty good yes yes

chandler
chandler UltimaDork
4/15/22 7:31 a.m.
te72 said:

Advan SA3R that 93EXCivic posted above are among my favorites, however, how do you all call yourselves wheel guys when I see not one mention of what is clearly the best split spoke design for Japanese cars, ever, the Blitz Type 03?

 

 

Admittedly, it looks a lot like the OEM R33 GT-R wheel, but you can get this one in all sorts of sizes, lip styles, colors, etc... down side is, they're stupid expensive these days. As in, this specific set that's BNIB above, costs about what an ND1 does at the moment. Not joking.

 

Since I know that we have some MR2 fans around here:

 

1994 Toyota MR2 Blitz Type 03 Stock Stock | Fitment Industries

 

S14 anyone?

 

CA RARE BLITZ Type 03 | 18x9 +9 | 18x10 +22 | 5x114.3 | SOLD! - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX ...

 

FD:

1993 Mazda RX-7 on Blitz Type 03

 

And since I'm a little biased here, just a bit, a jelly bean:

1994 Toyota Supra on Blitz Type 03

I love the look on the ground/shelf/display case but don't actually much like it ON cars. Not sure why.

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/15/22 8:03 a.m.

I think CCW was the go to for the T1 cars back in the late 90s.   I really liked the look of them on the C5 corvette.  
 

I don't remember if they were using the three piece or the Race/Mono block wheels.  I do remember being impressed on how light they were for such a big rim.  
 

 

wspohn
wspohn SuperDork
4/15/22 11:33 a.m.

I like split spoke wheels.....

Opti
Opti Dork
4/15/22 11:41 a.m.

I like CCW Classics 

M parrallels

Im normally a simple 5 spoke guy like the Fikse FM5s, but I have really grown to like the 6th gen camaro 1le wheels.

 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
4/16/22 9:30 a.m.

In reply to dean1484 :

Back then, likely a three-piece wheel. The later one-piece wheels are technically lighter and stiffer, but three-piece CCW Classics are a classic. 

te72
te72 Reader
4/17/22 2:06 p.m.

In reply to chandler :

That is interesting. I just grabbed a few pics I found on a search, but having seen a couple sets in person, I love them. I should have bought a set when they were merely expensive used wheels, they're out of reach now. Fortunately... I've come across a few wheels that look close enough, but the original Blitz still probably looks the best for some reason.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
4/17/22 7:49 p.m.

From this morning. 

wawazat
wawazat SuperDork
4/17/22 9:03 p.m.

My '92 SVX in '02 at the SIA plant during the SVX 10th Anniversary meet.  
 

SSR GT1

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
4/19/22 12:46 p.m.

In reply to wawazat :

OG. 

Ian F (Forum Supporter)
Ian F (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
4/19/22 1:02 p.m.

I've always been a fan of the BBS RX II wheels I had on my 2003 TDI.  Nice combo of style and function:

Unfortunately, mine looked a bit like the ones above after a few years, despite being Summer-only wheels.

wawazat
wawazat SuperDork
4/19/22 4:39 p.m.
David S. Wallens said:

In reply to wawazat :

OG. 

HAHA!  More like just old these days!

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
4/21/22 10:05 p.m.

In reply to wawazat :

Well, maybe that, too. 

Chris_V
Chris_V UberDork
4/22/22 2:19 p.m.

Another vote for M Parallels. I love them on every car I've seen them on. Not a fan of the 65s, but then not really a fan of the E39 M5... (I know, sacrelidge, but I love the E38) My old car:

And the one previous to that had some nice lace spokes, as well (with serious lip):

 

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