HPD Offers Limited Run of Civic Type R TC and TCR Crate Engines

Colin
By Colin Wood
Feb 10, 2021 | Honda, HPD, Civic Type R, crate engine

Ever look at a Civic Type R TC or TCR car blasting through a corner and think to yourself, If only I could get my hands on that engine.” Now just might be your chance.

Honda Performance Development is offering a limited run of the K20C1 engine used in both the TC and TCR versions of its Civic Type R, as well as the F4 and FR Americas series.

Normally, these sort of performance parts are only available to Honda Racing Line members and race teams, but HPD is allowing anyone to purchase the crate engine—so long as it is only used for “racing and off-highway applications.”

Specifically designed for easy, affordable and reliable swap applications,” each crate engine consists of a “engine long block, alternator, turbocharger, and starter motor.” Also available for purchase is a Controls Package which contains a pre-tuned HPD ECU for the crate engine.

No specifics have been announced as to how many crate engines will be offered as part of the limited run or how much they will cost, though the engine and Controls Package will be available starting May 1 of this year through four established official dealers:

For more information about the K20C1 crate engine and HPD, visit hpd.honda.com. However, the big question still remains: What are swapping this engine into?

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David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
2/9/21 2:39 p.m.

EG Civic. 

Colin Wood
Colin Wood Associate Editor
2/9/21 2:40 p.m.

In reply to David S. Wallens :

You know, my Fit is getting a little long in the tooth, maybe I should just buy one of these and turn it into a race car?

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
2/9/21 3:08 p.m.

In reply to Colin Wood :

Gotta make it rear-wheel drive, too. 

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 PowerDork
2/9/21 3:10 p.m.

I just want high RPMs and VTEC. They didn't even give those engines a proper send off :(. 

ChrisTropea
ChrisTropea Associate Editor
2/9/21 3:39 p.m.

Putting one of these in the Fox would make it a lot more fun to drive and improve reliability. 

Colin Wood
Colin Wood Associate Editor
2/9/21 3:51 p.m.

In reply to ChrisTropea :

I second that motion.

Colin Wood
Colin Wood Associate Editor
2/9/21 3:54 p.m.

In reply to DirtyBird222 :

Good point. They never really made any kind of crazy model.

On the other hand, it looks like a number of shops (even one or two of the ones mentioned above) will gladly build you the VTEC-screaming engine of your dreams for probably a similar amount to what this one costs.

But I also know that's not the same.

damarble
damarble New Reader
2/9/21 5:48 p.m.

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 PowerDork
2/10/21 8:54 a.m.
Colin Wood said:

In reply to DirtyBird222 :

Good point. They never really made any kind of crazy model.

On the other hand, it looks like a number of shops (even one or two of the ones mentioned above) will gladly build you the VTEC-screaming engine of your dreams for probably a similar amount to what this one costs.

But I also know that's not the same.

I can do that as well, I just wish we got a super awesome Civic Si, Roadster, or CTR with a minimum of 8k RPM redline as a proper ado for that. The 2011 Civic Si was it. That bastard K24z7 did not do the NA Civics justice as a send off. 

AaronT
AaronT Reader
2/10/21 9:07 a.m.

How easily would this swap into an NA/NB Miata? Perhaps an alternative to the LFX swap?

Ian F (Forum Supporter)
Ian F (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
2/10/21 9:23 a.m.

$9K for what should be a reliable 300 HP 4-banger doesn't sound too bad.  Sure, you can get 300HP out of other engines, but I don't know about that "reliable" part.

This in a mid-engine RWD Mini be a ton of fun.

mdshaw
mdshaw GRM+ Memberand Reader
2/10/21 9:29 a.m.

In reply to AaronT :

Just get a JDM K24A (with RBB head) 200hp stock- $750, (replace the timing chain & tensioner, add a 50 deg vtc gear, a K20 oil pump, modify a S2k intake (for rwd), add the turbo setup of your choice, Hondata, bigger injectors - now you're at a reliable 400hp & 8krpm.

Contact Kmiata for the Miata swap parts, get your ZF or Getrag transmission.

You're WAY under the $9,000 & more (reliable) power.

Rons
Rons GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
2/10/21 10:35 a.m.

In reply to David S. Wallens :

And to do that cut the rear floor pan out, fab up a rear sub-frame tie into the cage and remaining body shell and voila semi tube frame. You’re all ready for time attack and UTCC.

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 PowerDork
2/10/21 11:47 a.m.
mdshaw said:

In reply to AaronT :

Just get a JDM K24A (with RBB head) 200hp stock- $750, (replace the timing chain & tensioner, add a 50 deg vtc gear, a K20 oil pump, modify a S2k intake (for rwd), add the turbo setup of your choice, Hondata, bigger injectors - now you're at a reliable 400hp & 8krpm.

Contact Kmiata for the Miata swap parts, get your ZF or Getrag transmission.

You're WAY under the $9,000 & more (reliable) power.

KMiata makes a RWD intake manifold now and for a very reasonable price IMO. 

mdshaw
mdshaw GRM+ Memberand Reader
2/10/21 6:54 p.m.

In reply to DirtyBird222 :

Yes they do but still much more than a modified S2K intake. In a boosted application a little better flow for 4x the $$$ isn't really worth it, IMO. 

ProDarwin
ProDarwin MegaDork
2/10/21 7:11 p.m.
mdshaw said:

In reply to AaronT :

You're WAY under the $9,000 & more (reliable) power.

Lots of big $ K24 builds explode at those power levels.  Didn't Andy Hollis have a pretty good one built for his One Lap car that grenaded?

I don't know that I would trust such a mildly prepped motor to be reliable on the track.

 

 

mdshaw
mdshaw GRM+ Memberand Reader
2/10/21 8:03 p.m.

Back in '15 it broke a valve spring twice. They replaced the broken parts, a piston together with used stock parts & even re-used the head gasket & fished the weekend very well.  Pretty sure they were revving over 8k rpm but would have to ask Andy.  They were stock motors at @400hp. Another motor on that forum on e85 was 550hp.

Not sure what he has been up to since then though.

Now Humble Performance is seeing 500-600 on stock K24A(2)'s. 

Sounds to me like keep the revs below 8krpm & it's fine. Or put Supertechs in & rev to 10k.smiley But the piston speed would be really high.

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