Live Thread: One week with an FL5 Honda Civic Type R

By J.G. Pasterjak
Dec 8, 2023 | Honda, Civic, honda civic, Civic Type R, Live Thread, FL5

Photography by J.G. Pasterjak

Well, it’s finally here. The eleventh-generation, FL5-chassis Honda Civic Type R has arrived in our media loan inbox for a thorough evaluation–and not a moment too soon.

The tenth-generation Type R held the title of the fastest front-wheel-drive car during our testing at the Florida International Rally and Motorsports Park for the better part of a year until it was unseated by the Hyundai Veloster N.

Now, that previous Civic R sits in a busy space on the leaderboard, with the Veloster, Elantra, Golf R and GR Corolla all basically tied for hot-hatch supremacy within a couple of tenths of a second of each other. Will the newest Civic be able to open a gap?

It's got 10 more rated horsepower and wider tires, but also more weight than its previous ancestor, so it’s going to be a good battle.

In the meantime, our initial impressions of the Civic Type R are similar to our impressions of most Honda products: positive.

It’s a little more rowdy than the Integra Type S—the seats are firmer and more bolstered, for instance–but overall has that very Honda feeling, sitting at the intersection of sportiness and practicality, particularly with that cavernous hatch.

What do you want to know about the newest Civic Type R? Post your questions in this thread and we’ll do our best to answer them in our week with the car.

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secretariata (Forum Supporter)
secretariata (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
12/6/23 5:41 p.m.

I'm sure y'all would cover this without asking, but how does it compare to the Integra y'all had last week?

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
12/6/23 5:44 p.m.
secretariata (Forum Supporter) said:

I'm sure y'all would cover this without asking, but how does it compare to the Integra y'all had last week?

More similar than I expected, actually. The seats feel like the biggest difference (Honda's are "sportier"), and weirdly it feels like the Civic pedals are shifted to the right compared to the Acura. But I'm guessing that's a side effect of the stiffer and more bolstered seats.

thatsnowinnebago GRM+ Memberand UberDork
12/6/23 5:54 p.m.

Why does your bird want to fight me?

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
12/6/23 6:59 p.m.
thatsnowinnebago said:

Why does your bird want to fight me?

Don't start no trouble there ain't gonna be no trouble.

OHSCrifle GRM+ Memberand UberDork
12/6/23 9:32 p.m.

I'm diggin the snub nose appearance. I still find the rear spoiler rather goofy. 

Datsun240ZGuy MegaDork
12/6/23 10:53 p.m.

It must be tough to have this job but somebody's got to do it.

Kudos, my man.

You guys still looking for that outside sales guy?  LOL 

brandonsmash GRM+ Memberand New Reader
12/6/23 11:32 p.m.

The Honda CTR has a starting MSRP of around $45k and the Cadillac CT4V starts around $50k. Given that there is only roughly a 10% price delta between the two, how would you compare those two vehicles? They're both four-door performance-oriented versions of very competent sedans. 

BLRB GRM+ Memberand New Reader
12/7/23 8:29 a.m.

Can you compare differences between this production and Thunderhill 25 CTR?

Can you notate coolant temps when lapping at the FIRM to see if the FL5 heat management is any better than the FK8's?

Coniglio Rampante
Coniglio Rampante Reader
12/7/23 9:17 a.m.

To bad it's not August so you could show how the gear shift branded its pattern into your right palm.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
12/7/23 9:34 a.m.

In reply to Coniglio Rampante :

As a Civic Si owner, I can say that is a slight issue with these cars. 

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