Mazda Tech Tips: Find the Right NC for Spec MX-5

Mazda, showing their commitment to making Spec MX-5 the best it can be, just released a buyer's guide of sorts of what you should look out for when searching for your NC Miata to use in competition. 

Find the comprehensive checklist below, and give us your thoughts in the comments.

 

 

PARTS SPOTLIGHT: FINDING AN NC MAZDA MX-5 DONOR CAR FOR SPEC MX-5

In a series of Mazda Motorsports Parts Spotlights, we’ve discussed the benefits and thought processes behind the package of parts that make up the Spec MX-5. This article highlights the considerations for selecting the NC generation (2006-2015) Mazda MX-5 donor – the most important portion of your Spec MX-5 build.

When searching for your donor, the amount you’re going to pay probably depends on how patient you are, and how much work you want to put into both finding a deal and prepping the car. There are many options to find the perfect starting point, whether you are a budget-minded enthusiast or prep shop collecting and preparing a fleet. Below are many of the considerations when making your selection.

The NC Chassis: Face Lifts and Trim Packages

The NC chassis received two face lifts throughout its production (2006-2015), creating what is commonly referred to as the NC2 (model years 2009-12) and the NC3 (model years 2013-15). While primarily visual differences, there are a few prominent changes that can prove valuable to a race build.

Although updates were made to engine internals, electronics, and with the ‘13+ models ECU tune, they play no factor with the new Spec MX-5. Instead the focus turns on the single most notable difference: the transmissions.

Most of the NC manual transmission packages are equipped with the 6-speed transmissions, the Sport level is produced with the 5-speed manual transmission, which would need to be changed for the class.

For cars older than the 2009 model year, it’s recommended to look into upgraded forks that are now available. While great on the street, the early transmissions needed some help to stand up to track-level abuse, which was quickly fixed.

The only other prominent option to watch out for is the factory “suspension package.” These packages came equipped with Bilstein shocks, which will be replaced; most importantly, though, the factory limited slip differential that will be a tremendous asset.|

Selecting a chassis starting point: wrecked, rebuilt, or road-ready?

The single most crucial step in deciding what donor would best suit your needs is being able to properly assess how much work you are willing to take on yourself, how much you will need to outsource, and the value of that.

Do you have the means to repair body work, suspension damage, or even repair rust? Or would it be better to find a mechanically sound car, road-ready, with fewer likely possible surprises along the way? This guide should help provide some insight as to price points, common issues, what to watch out for and sources where each could be located.

Wrecked / Salvage: (Average cost range $2,000-$4,000)

These can be some of the hardest to find, but most rewarding on your budget. The NC chassis is still new enough that finding one through a salvage outlet (such as Copart, IAAI or other insurance auctions) is not terribly difficult and can provide your donor chassis at quite the compelling cost. Of note: many of the cars you will find will be NC1s (’06 – ‘08). NC2 and NC3 can both be found as well, usually with a modest bump in cost.

Auction cars can be a wonderful source of a donor, but can come with some pitfalls. While not only slightly harder to come by, most auction cars will have a substantial amount of damage. Whether it was a wreck, fire, flood or who knows what else, you will have a large list of work before even starting on the parts and pieces to convert to spec racing. Also, make a point to read in to what dealer, auction, and delivery fees may incur with a salvage purchase. The car may be listed or sell at a certain price, but that is never truly your “out the door” cost. You also may need to “know someone” to get in the door at many auctions, especially those designed for dealers.

Other sources such as Craigslist and Facebook Marketplace can provide other outlets to pick up a donor at relatively low cost. NC1 models especially have become slightly more common on these outlets – usually in price ranges from $1,700 to $3,000. Examples have also been collected from these sites for as low as $500-$1,000 with blown motors, front-end damage, etc. But as with all private sales, these can be very sporadic and hard to find. Unfortunately, timing and luck will play a major factor.

Rebuilt: (Average cost range: $3,000-$6,000)

Salvage or rebuilt, titled cars can be among the best donor starting points you can find; however, you must also be wary of some potential issues. While most of times all repairs are done correctly and everything is in good running order, there are those who will do the minimum in order to be able to sell and profit.

Make sure you take your time when looking at a rebuilt car; go through the damaged/repaired area with a fine-tooth comb to ensure no short cuts were taken; check seams on the chassis to be sure everything still lines up; take time to check all the suspension pick-up points look straight and any extra steps you may deem necessary. Remember these cars won’t be perfect, but you don’t want to discover any nasty surprises once you begin initial tear down.

Road-Ready: (Average cost range: $5,000 – $15,000)

So you want a clean starting point, with little-to-no unforeseen issues or expenses? Sometimes it is just easiest to find a good reliable driver. While initial cost tends to be much higher than the other options overall, the starting point you’ve provided yourself will be much easier to bring to a complete race ready vehicle as they tend to have lower miles, less abuse, and overall better condition from previous ownership. But it goes without saying, none of them will be perfect, make sure to take the time to go through the car thoroughly before purchase, as to catch anything that may have been missed in vehicle description.

Issues to watch out for

Overall the NC is a very reliable, sturdy vehicle; however, like every pre-owned vehicle, it could highly benefit you to inspect the car thoroughly before purchase.

Depending on the age of the car you’re considering, you may see some wear. Search for rust, but not just in the obvious, visible areas. Look under the carpet, if it will pull up; though, understandably, some sellers may not feel comfortable with you seemingly ripping up the carpet “just in case.” Look in the trunk around the brake light mounts, especially in parts of the country prone to rust.

Look at plastics under the hood. Parts like the factory plastic coolant expansion tank can give you clues as to how much detail has gone into the car’s maintenance. Often, this plastic begins to wear and may show its age. If it looks like it has been replaced, find out why – it may indicate a previously overheated engine. Not a huge deal if you’re installing a Spec MX-5 engine, but still great to know!

The most important aspect of your donor car is likely the frame. Whether it be a small wrinkle in the frame above the front wheel, or a bend in the frame underneath the trunk mats, there are a lot of places you can skim over the car without noticing. Take extra time to ensure everything is straight, and the car matches the history given. The only other places to watch for unknown frame bending are underneath the car. The unibody of the NC chassis requires a decent amount of under-body bracing. If the car has ever been bottomed out, or hit a bump wrong, there is the possibility of these brace mounts getting dented, beaten, or stripped.

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Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy UltimaDork
9/9/19 8:55 a.m.

There go my hopes of finding an inexpensive NC Miata.

spandak
spandak Reader
9/9/19 9:10 a.m.
Brett_Murphy said:

There go my hopes of finding an inexpensive NC Miata.

Same. Hopefully everyone buys up the later ones I can’t afford.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
9/9/19 9:13 a.m.

You know this will only affect a hundred or so cars. That's a pretty small percentage of NC production. Spec Miata sure didn't make a dent in the availability of crappy NAs and NBs.

Really, the best source for a Spec NC is a retired MX-5 Cup car.

Jordan Rimpela
Jordan Rimpela Digital Editor
9/9/19 9:14 a.m.

In reply to Brett_Murphy :

Good point! But did Spec E30 drive up E30 prices, or were they always destined to anyway? Chicken or the egg?

aw614
aw614 Reader
9/9/19 9:41 a.m.
Jordan Rimpela said:

In reply to Brett_Murphy :

Good point! But did Spec E30 drive up E30 prices, or were they always destined to anyway? Chicken or the egg?

I think it is a larger trend of older popular BMWs being driven up in cost regardless of spec e30. 

 

For all the hate the NC miata seems to get, I am weirdly attracted to them and wanting to buy one. I like them in terms of looks over the NB, and they are fairly modern. 

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy UltimaDork
9/9/19 10:33 a.m.
Jordan Rimpela said:

In reply to Brett_Murphy :

Good point! But did Spec E30 drive up E30 prices, or were they always destined to anyway? Chicken or the egg?

In this area, there seemed to be quite a few Spec E30 and Spec Miata racers. It might have something to do with VIR, Atlanta,  Charlotte and other tracks in close proximity. It wasn't impossible to get a good deal, but competition for the real bargains and rust-free cars with engine problems has always been fierce. 

The NC has long been the unloved platform. Heck, it wasn't even called a Miata by Mazda. I may be blaming racers more than I should, but having a spec series for the NC isn't going to help demand.

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