Watch the reveal of the new Nissan Z

Colin
By Colin Wood
Aug 17, 2021 | Nissan, Z-car

After tonight, all the speculation and all the rumors about the next-generation Z-car end.

Starting at 8:00 p.m. Eastern tonight, August 17, Nissan will officially unveil the 2023 Nissan Z.

Watch the reveal below or at this link.


Before the big event, have any last-minute predictions or wagers?

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Datsun310Guy
Datsun310Guy MegaDork
8/17/21 2:35 p.m.

Been waiting weeks for this.  Hoping it doesn't suck.   

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
8/17/21 2:45 p.m.

In reply to Datsun310Guy :

 

Antihero (Forum Supporter)
Antihero (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UberDork
8/17/21 3:22 p.m.

Man......a modern drivetrain with a 240z body would be great, like......as close as humanly possible would be great.

preach (fs)
preach (fs) GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
8/17/21 3:27 p.m.
Antihero (Forum Supporter) said:

Man......a modern drivetrain with a 240z body would be great, like......as close as humanly possible would be great.

Concur, but it will be a fat turd as all modern cars have become. I still hope it will be cool, I am looking forward to it.

secretariata (Forum Supporter)
secretariata (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
8/17/21 3:37 p.m.

I thought some photos were leaked a few months ago and it looked like a slightly updated 350...I mean 370z?

84FSP
84FSP UltraDork
8/17/21 4:20 p.m.

If the numbers, specs, and design survives from the prototype in some fashion I predict big success for it.  Good looks and great HP/Weight ratio make it look like a contender.  Potentially something I'd even buy new.

LeftLaneLoser
LeftLaneLoser UltraDork
8/17/21 4:23 p.m.

If it isn't sub 3,000lbs, I won't even ever bother knowing anything more about it. 

captdownshift (Forum Supporter)
captdownshift (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/17/21 4:26 p.m.

In reply to LeftLaneLoser :

Prepare for disappointment.  I suspect that it'll be north of 380hp, but 3300+ lb. 

Horsepower has killed the sports car, but I'll save that for another thread. 

MrChaos
MrChaos GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
8/17/21 5:24 p.m.

In reply to captdownshift (Forum Supporter) :

crash safety ratings and pedestrian impact ratings have killed the sports car.

captdownshift (Forum Supporter)
captdownshift (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/17/21 5:28 p.m.

In reply to MrChaos :

I'm going to disagree. 400+ horsepower 3700+ lb things that often shift themselves go in a straight lines at stop lights and a lack in confidence that breeds toxicity masculinity have killed the sports car. 

How many people like the BRZ/86 but say they won't consider it, but would if it had 30-50% more horsepower. 

Young men with enlistment bonuses aren't financing sportscars at 27% APR...

Antihero (Forum Supporter)
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8/17/21 5:46 p.m.
preach (fs) said:
Antihero (Forum Supporter) said:

Man......a modern drivetrain with a 240z body would be great, like......as close as humanly possible would be great.

Concur, but it will be a fat turd as all modern cars have become. I still hope it will be cool, I am looking forward to it.

I bet you are right sadly.

 

I remember talking to someone about cars and he mentioned a near 3800lb car as lightweight so maybe all of us here arent the majority too.

Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/17/21 5:53 p.m.

I want a 2800lb car with the VK56VD @ 420hp.  I won't get it.

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
8/17/21 6:59 p.m.

3400 lbs, 400 HP, $40k is my prediction.

Colin Wood
Colin Wood Associate Editor
8/17/21 7:07 p.m.

3.0-liter, twin-turbo V6 rated for 400 horsepower ad 350 lb.-ft. of torque mated to either a six-speed manual or nine-speed auto available.

Here's a few photos while I wait for the full kit to download:

Turbo_Rev
Turbo_Rev New Reader
8/17/21 7:09 p.m.

Also, manual transmission, huh? GTR owners look on in disgust. 

Love the rear end, though.

Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/17/21 7:13 p.m.

Good with the looks but how much does it freak weigh?

stanger_mussle
stanger_mussle GRM+ Memberand UberDork
8/17/21 7:13 p.m.

That blue one is teh sex

Datsun310Guy
Datsun310Guy MegaDork
8/17/21 7:14 p.m.

So far I like but we dragging it out.  
 

I feel like being a dick tomorrow and showing up at my local Nissan dealer with cash in my hand.  I'm here to order a Z.....

Turbo_Rev
Turbo_Rev New Reader
8/17/21 7:16 p.m.

Those headlights are a miss. 

 

Wanna see auto vs mt numbers.

stanger_mussle
stanger_mussle GRM+ Memberand UberDork
8/17/21 7:18 p.m.

Yay for the manual!

Yay for the analog gauges!

Boo for the digital instrument cluster

Turbo_Rev
Turbo_Rev New Reader
8/17/21 7:19 p.m.

Wait, WHAT WAS THE ONE THING?!

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
8/17/21 7:20 p.m.

The crowd cheered when they announced 6 speed manual standard but auto available.

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
8/17/21 7:20 p.m.
Datsun310Guy said:

So far I like but we dragging it out.  
 

I feel like being a dick tomorrow and showing up at my local Nissan dealer with cash in my hand.  I'm here to order a Z.....

One we get final specs I may order one of these instead of a BRZ.

Datsun310Guy
Datsun310Guy MegaDork
8/17/21 7:21 p.m.

What happened?

MrChaos
MrChaos GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
8/17/21 7:22 p.m.

In reply to Datsun310Guy :

whole lot of nothing

preach (fs)
preach (fs) GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
8/17/21 7:22 p.m.

When the digital display rolled out did I see 88 miles left with about a 1/3 of a tank? 280 mile range?!?! I hope not.

secretariata (Forum Supporter)
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8/17/21 7:31 p.m.
preach (fs) said:

When the digital display rolled out did I see 88 miles left with about a 1/3 of a tank? 280 mile range?!?! I hope not.

Gotta keep the weight down.  You know 2 gallons of gas weighs 12.5 lbs...

secretariata (Forum Supporter)
secretariata (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
8/17/21 7:32 p.m.

Was it me or did the 60+ year old dude dressed like he thinks he's a Kardashian kill the mood?

Oh and the typical 'vette owner jewelry...

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
8/17/21 7:39 p.m.

Yay, manual transmission. 

Kreb (Forum Supporter)
Kreb (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
8/17/21 7:44 p.m.

We're  cynical lot. I see a powerful sports car with clean, non-bloated lines inside and out. It's the first time that Nissan has gotten my attention in years.

84FSP
84FSP UltraDork
8/17/21 7:46 p.m.

I really like it and the pale yellow is really nice.  Would probably go for black or white metallic as they are more ME.  The performance numbers should be good if the kept thw weight to the promised mid 3500lb range.

Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/17/21 7:48 p.m.

In reply to Kreb (Forum Supporter) :

I liked it a lot more than a BRZ

mr2s2000elise
mr2s2000elise UberDork
8/17/21 7:51 p.m.
Kreb (Forum Supporter) said:

We're  cynical lot. I see a powerful sports car with clean, non-bloated lines inside and out. It's the first time that Nissan has gotten my attention in years.

Agree 

best Z since 90-95 zx. 
 

worlds better than brz/86

stuart in mn
stuart in mn MegaDork
8/17/21 7:54 p.m.
Colin Wood said:

3.0-liter, twin-turbo V6 rated for 400 horsepower ad 350 lb.-ft. of torque mated to either a six-speed manual or nine-speed auto available.

Here's a few photos while I wait for the full kit to download:

That's not bad at all.  Did they say anything about the price?

captdownshift (Forum Supporter)
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8/17/21 7:55 p.m.

That interior is spectacular.

The exterior, outside of the roofline, doesn't do much for me, but you don't see that when you're driving. 

I'm here for Z car versus Supra shootout like it's 1994 all over again. 

secretariata (Forum Supporter)
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8/17/21 7:58 p.m.
Kreb (Forum Supporter) said:

We're  cynical lot. I see a powerful sports car with clean, non-bloated lines inside and out. It's the first time that Nissan has gotten my attention in years.

I saw 5 owners of previous generations excited to talk about their cars and an old dude dressed funny talking about a new car being the pinnacle of sports car design.  I only heard one useful fact about said automobile which is that it comes standard with a 6 speed manual transmission.  No specs, no price, and available sometime next spring. And visually it looks like a mild update of a meh car with some extra gaudy stuff like the exhaust tips.  Call me cynical if you want.

captdownshift (Forum Supporter)
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8/17/21 7:59 p.m.

I'm also very curious what the next generation skyline is going to be like if the Z has a twin turbo V6 making 400 horsepower. 

 

Will the skyline be staying V6 twin turbo or the skyline be going hybrid? 

 

(As I'm mentioning unrelated models within the manufacturer's family, dear Renault, but the 400hp twin turbo V6 in the hatch of a Clio.) 

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
8/17/21 8:03 p.m.
secretariata (Forum Supporter) said:
Kreb (Forum Supporter) said:

We're  cynical lot. I see a powerful sports car with clean, non-bloated lines inside and out. It's the first time that Nissan has gotten my attention in years.

I saw 5 owners of previous generations excited to talk about their cars and an old dude dressed funny talking about a new car being the pinnacle of sports car design.  I only heard one useful fact about said automobile which is that it comes standard with a 6 speed manual transmission.  No specs, no price, and available sometime next spring. And visually it looks like a mild update of a meh car with some extra gaudy stuff like the exhaust tips.  Call me cynical if you want.

Well they did say 400 hp 350 lb-ft tq.

Kreb (Forum Supporter)
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8/17/21 8:04 p.m.

In reply to secretariata (Forum Supporter) :

Cynical! You're a cynic! There, I said it.

Par for the course for most intros. I didn't bother to watch any more than I'd watch a state-of-the-union address, network news or an infomercial. That said, my points stand. It's powerful and nicely styled from a company who hasn't penned anything pretty in years. That's a great start.

mr2s2000elise
mr2s2000elise UberDork
8/17/21 8:07 p.m.
captdownshift (Forum Supporter) said:

I'm here for Z car versus Supra shootout like it's 1994 all over again. 

Most of us true jdm heads would love a proper 1994 mk5 supra .... not the austrian built garbage bmw powered posuer POS 

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
8/17/21 8:07 p.m.

In reply to Kreb (Forum Supporter) :

Same, I'm very interested. I had a Z31 in high school and college, and 350Z in 2010.

300zxfreak
300zxfreak Reader
8/17/21 8:07 p.m.

Okay, the videos and photos are intriguing, but will have to wait and see one in the flesh. Kind of like the latest Mustang, didn't interest me in photos, but really looks much better in person.

I still see a bit more 350/370 than I care to, but again, I'll wait until in person viewing to pass final judgement.  Wife says she still likes our Z32 TT better, who am I to argue ?

secretariata (Forum Supporter)
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8/17/21 8:08 p.m.

In reply to z31maniac :

Apparently my ears glazed over & I missed that part. laugh

tester (Forum Supporter)
tester (Forum Supporter) Reader
8/17/21 8:10 p.m.

It's a pretty car. Pretty cars are few and far between these days. I like it a lot, and I have never owned a Nissan. 
 

 

secretariata (Forum Supporter)
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8/17/21 8:11 p.m.
Kreb (Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to secretariata (Forum Supporter) :

Cynical! You're a cynic! There, I said it.

Par for the course for most intros.

I agree on both counts. I probably should have done something more productive instead of watching.

bmw88rider
bmw88rider GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
8/17/21 8:25 p.m.

Well, the good thing is assuming it's the same motor as in the Infiniti red lines then 500HP is not that far away. I think it's very conservative design and if not in the bright colors then it would be looked over in a parking lot. 

Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/17/21 8:31 p.m.

Just want to point out that torque should always be higher than horsepower but I'm an old fart traditionalist.

pointofdeparture
pointofdeparture UltimaDork
8/17/21 8:32 p.m.
z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
8/17/21 8:40 p.m.
Stampie said:

Just want to point out that torque should always be higher than horsepower but I'm an old fart traditionalist.

It makes that torque from 1,600-5600 as well.

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
8/17/21 8:45 p.m.
pointofdeparture said:

$40,000 base price.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a37304208/2023-nissan-z-revealed/

So I'm guessing that means the performance will likely be $45-46k

rustybugkiller
rustybugkiller Dork
8/17/21 8:49 p.m.

What.? I was hoping for an electric suv called 240e.

Not!

300zxfreak
300zxfreak Reader
8/17/21 8:59 p.m.

In reply to rustybugkiller :

Would that be a 240EZ ?

crankwalk (Forum Supporter)
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8/17/21 9:10 p.m.

 

This thing is pretty great . $40k is realistic though I'd like it closer to $33 -35k but I hope they sell a ton of them. If there is a green on butterscotch one I'll put a deposit down.  

mr2s2000elise
mr2s2000elise UberDork
8/17/21 9:41 p.m.
Stampie said:

Just want to point out that torque should always be higher than horsepower but I'm an old fart traditionalist.

Never owned a japanese sports car since 1983, where that was the case

 

my japanese SUVs - sure 

Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/17/21 9:56 p.m.

In reply to mr2s2000elise :

I didn't say Japanese.  I just feel any sports car needs more torque than hp.  Torque is what makes my pants tight.

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa PowerDork
8/17/21 9:56 p.m.

Did they ever discuss the weight?

Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/17/21 10:10 p.m.

In reply to mr2s2000elise :

Lol are you saying we should expect less torque from the Japanese?

VK56VD

2011–2013Infiniti M56420 hp (313 kW)57.6 kg⋅m (565 N⋅m; 417 lbf⋅ft)

I'll call 3lbf-ft close enough.

Reminds me that I really want a M56.

G_Body_Man (Forum Supporter)
G_Body_Man (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
8/17/21 10:29 p.m.

As a former G35 owner, I'm so stoked that they've ditched the crappy viscous LSD for a clutch-type one. If it drives as well as it looks, I may just have to buy one.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
8/17/21 10:37 p.m.

I like it a lot more then the BMW Z4 I mean Supra. 

Cchambers13
Cchambers13 New Reader
8/17/21 11:06 p.m.

As someone who loves vintage Z-ness and have always been meh on the 350/370z there are some good changes. Still the 370 chassis and 85% of it everywhere else too but finally a high output engine. Would have also been cool with the 5.6 v8 buuuut it would be in mustang/challenger/camero land which would probably kill the curb weight and handling. 

In a nutshell: Nissan twin turbo v6 manual transmission rwd car in a 2 seater, for what a $5k premium over regular appliance cars... YES, many wins. Way more interesting than a new miata or BMW/Supra.

Unfortunately I'm relegated to 4 doors needs so take the Z and make it an estate wagon and im there 100% dad rod style. 

 

red_stapler
red_stapler SuperDork
8/18/21 12:19 a.m.
Stampie said:

In reply to mr2s2000elise :

I didn't say Japanese.  I just feel any sports car needs more torque than hp.  Torque is what makes my pants tight.

They made a ton of C4 Corvettes if that's what you're into.

c0rbin9
c0rbin9 Reader
8/18/21 12:59 a.m.

It's almost as tall as a goddamn SUV. Pre crazy regs Z32 for reference:

STM317
STM317 UberDork
8/18/21 7:24 a.m.

It's a heavily revised 370Z (still has the same internal chassis code). It's going to weigh at least 3400+lbs like the 370 currently does. It's not likely to be any cheaper than the 370, so prices will probably start in the mid 30s.

If you compare it to a Supra (which nobody but car mags will do), it's going to seem like a bargain. If you compare it to a Mustang/Camaro/Challenger (which actual humans will do because budgets are a thing) it's going to have a tougher time in the market place.

Furious_E (Forum Supporter)
Furious_E (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
8/18/21 7:35 a.m.

Interior looks great, exterior looks excellent from the rear, so-so from the front. Super pumped they kept a six speed standard (looking at you, Supra...) and the TT V6 probably puts a ton more power within easy reach. Big thing is going to be the weight - is it closer to 3400 or 3600? 800lbs and $10+k is a big leap from the Toyobaru.

Feedyurhed
Feedyurhed UltraDork
8/18/21 7:38 a.m.

Looks pretty good overall but weight is going to be the deciding factor for me. The BRZ is 2800ish lbs. I would rather have lightness/nimbleness than power.

racerfink
racerfink UltraDork
8/18/21 7:55 a.m.

Looks like it was designed by Rockstar for GTA.  A whole bunch of styling cues from several different cars so they don’t get sued, but not so many that you can’t tell what car they were going for.

Makes a LT1 Camaro look like a steal, performance wise.

yupididit
yupididit GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
8/18/21 8:37 a.m.

I like it. I bet it'll look better in person just like the latest Supra.

Tony Sestito
Tony Sestito PowerDork
8/18/21 8:44 a.m.

I've been a very vocal critic of Nissan for a long time now. Aside from their trucks, there wasn't anything I'd want to put in my driveway since about 2005, or whenever they stopped building the Altima SE-R was (GT-R and Infiniti cars excluded).

That said, I think they nailed this. Critics, hear me out.

Yes, it's a re-skinned 370Z. Yes, it will be heavy. Yes, the windows are small. Yes, it will probably start at around $40k. But it looks fantastic IMHO, you can get it with either a 6-speed manual or a 9-speed automatic with actual gears instead of the CVT nonsense they have been peddling for years. It has a tried-and-true twin turbo V6 from Infiniti under the hood, which is the best mill they have to offer right now outside of the GT-R. And look, there are COLORS on the interior other than black! That blue press car with the blue seats makes me feel funny inside.

It's a real effort from a company who has been building boring, uninspired crap for over a decade, and I'm giving them an A for effort here. I hope it sells well, because if it does, maybe they will build more cool stuff in the future like they used to.

And I like it better than the BMW Supra. wink

Advan046
Advan046 UltraDork
8/18/21 8:56 a.m.

I have liked the styling of the 350Z-this new Z. 

My heart just falls because of all the reviews that describe the handling as, no fun. So I never got serious about buying one. I am curious to read articles about the driving experience. That is where they can make or break this car. The weight isn't a concern in and of itself at all performance wise. It can be handled with good suspension tuning.

I went to a local SAE focus meet and greet back during the launch of the 350z and have been a low key fan since. It or the 370 or now the new Z is on my, "if I won the lottery" add on car list to have in my fleet.

Though at the price of $40k I am never going to afford one. A certified used Miata RF or Toyota 86 are more in my affordability range.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
8/18/21 9:03 a.m.

This beats the alterative, too: simply no more Z.

We've been there before. 

Kreb (Forum Supporter)
Kreb (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
8/18/21 9:05 a.m.

If Nissan wants it to be a great handler, they will. Suspension design has come a long way. If it turns out to be too soft and uninspiring, that will be a conscious design choice as well. But I doubt it. Everything visual about this car suggests tightness and precision. I expect the dynamics to proceed in kind. Save the plushness for the infiniti version. 

Advan046
Advan046 UltraDork
8/18/21 9:07 a.m.

Regarding the reskin....this is not unusual and not as detrimental as it may have been in the...last century. Even sharing codes, they can move suspension pickup points, swap out parts with lighter high strength steels, and improve rigidity. 

Advan046
Advan046 UltraDork
8/18/21 9:18 a.m.

In reply to Kreb (Forum Supporter) :

Yes that is what I hope. That this will be a step towards more fun sporting. But we all have unique tastes. I think my biggest issue was at 5foot 2 inches I couldn't find a comfortable position during my short test drive of a manual 370Z. I will try to test drive this new one some day. 

golfduke
golfduke Dork
8/18/21 9:20 a.m.

Just placed an enquiry into my dealet buddy and he got the reply 'preorders start 11/1'.  Some interesting colorways I was told too... but no elaboration beyond that :/

 

I'm definitely preordering as soon as I can.  

 

 

mr2s2000elise
mr2s2000elise UberDork
8/18/21 9:21 a.m.

Probably 3300-3400 lbs

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
8/18/21 9:43 a.m.
golfduke said:

Just placed an enquiry into my dealet buddy and he got the reply 'preorders start 11/1'.  Some interesting colorways I was told too... but no elaboration beyond that :/

 

I'm definitely preordering as soon as I can.  

 

 

Colorways? If you meant color options, they are all listed in the C&D article. 

 

And Nissan's twitter account has said it won't be available for preorder. 

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
8/18/21 9:44 a.m.
mr2s2000elise said:

Probably 3300-3400 lbs

Please take note of my prediction on the first page. 
 

3400lbs, 400hp, $40k.

Kreb (Forum Supporter)
Kreb (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
8/18/21 9:54 a.m.

In reply to Advan046 :

As someone with an affinity for vintage Italian cars as well as Lotus, I sometime swish that I were 5 foot 2 inches! 

jmc14
jmc14 HalfDork
8/18/21 10:21 a.m.
Kreb (Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to Advan046 :

As someone with an affinity for vintage Italian cars as well as Lotus, I sometime swish that I were 5 foot 2 inches! 

Me too! 

asphalt_gundam
asphalt_gundam Reader
8/18/21 10:22 a.m.

Power and handling will be good IMO. The interior.....Are those real buttons and knobs???? YES! and not an excessively big infotainment screen. Manual yes. If its Non active suspension and I'll like it even more. Less computers the better IMO

I'm not a new car fan (everything I own is older than 07) but this Z has my interest. Like might actually buy one interest. If this render comes out as a body kit that would seal the deal for me.

mr2s2000elise
mr2s2000elise UberDork
8/18/21 11:14 a.m.
z31maniac said:
mr2s2000elise said:

Probably 3300-3400 lbs

Please take note of my prediction on the first page. 
 

3400lbs, 400hp, $40k.

Yup. You usually nail it.

 

Much respect as always brother! Especially as I share your distaste for yard art, lowering property value type "projects." Hope all is well my friend smileyyes

wspohn
wspohn SuperDork
8/18/21 11:16 a.m.

Afraid that, having produced a one shot wonder stylistically in the original 240Z, every subsequent iteration including this one has been a swing and a miss for me.

This thing is frankly fugly. I know that with current safety rules you can't make cars with Ferrari GTO snouts any more, but cars like the original NSX, and the Supra Mk 4, and even some of the better looking Skylines beat this thing all to death in the looks department.  Even the original 300 ZX looked better than this.

I appreciate what others are saying about weight, but I also sympathize with the designers who have to somehow get all the safety stuff into the cars as well as trying to keep them as light as they can.  We'll see what the eventual weight is, but the constantly increasing power outputs are needed just to try and stay even with the previous models,

I find it really sad that a car that started out as stunningly attractive as the 240Z turned into what we have today.  You can say that this is what the majority of buyers want and maybe you'd be right, but I guess I am just not in the majority.

I'll say one thing about the weight thing - the specs we are seeing on modern cars weights, even on smaller sports models (Mazda excepted as they have done a great job keeping the MX-5 pretty light) makes me feel better about my 71 Jensen Interceptor, which weighed a pound under the two ton mark.

 

crankwalk (Forum Supporter)
crankwalk (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/13/22 10:54 p.m.

Anybody seen the proto spec z limited to apparently 240 units in Japan? Front bumper splitter breaks up the open mouth. It's looking pretty shaped up to me.


https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/threads/fairlady-z-customized-proto-revealed-at-tokyo-auto-salon-limited-240-units.756/

 

bgkast
bgkast GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
1/13/22 11:08 p.m.

In reply to crankwalk (Forum Supporter) :

That makes the look!

crankwalk (Forum Supporter)
crankwalk (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/13/22 11:11 p.m.
bgkast said:

In reply to crankwalk (Forum Supporter) :

That makes the look!

Yep I agree. If Nissan starts equipping them with at least that front bumper lots of folks would love it. If they don't, they will sell like hotcakes in the aftermarket.

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
1/14/22 8:58 a.m.

I actually don't care for that front bumper. I just want options, and what will be standard on each trim level and prices released so I can determine if I want to get in line for one. The lack of info after the August reveal is getting annoying. 

dyintorace
dyintorace GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
1/14/22 9:06 a.m.

I saw the blue show car at the LA auto show last fall and think it looks pretty fantastic in person. 3,400 lbs, 400hp and 6-speed sounds great!

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
1/14/22 9:10 a.m.

There are also rumors now that the Supra is going to get a manual transmission for MY23 and may also get the 501 hp S motor as opposed to the 382 hp B58 engine. 

DjGreggieP
DjGreggieP HalfDork
1/14/22 9:42 a.m.

 

New Z for GT500 in Japan

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/14/22 11:30 a.m.

Looks good, but it's too rich for my blood (a used 86 was plenty expensive enough TYVM) and it's beyond my preferred weight class. It's very much like a modernized 300ZX and the taillight panel is clearly a tribute to that model.

z31maniac said:

There are also rumors now that the Supra is going to get a manual transmission for MY23 and may also get the 501 hp S motor as opposed to the 382 hp B58 engine. 

Even more too rich for my blood, but I would want that a lot more!

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
1/14/22 11:40 a.m.

In reply to GameboyRMH :

Looks like the Supra rumor dates back to 2018 for a higher-trim level, so I doubt it at this point. 

Either way, I'll be saving my shekels until I decide what to buy this fall. 

Gearheadotaku (Forum Supporter)
Gearheadotaku (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
1/14/22 11:46 a.m.

The new Z looks great, really like the front treatment on the orange car above. Can I get a 30 year payment plan?

crankwalk (Forum Supporter)
crankwalk (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/14/22 11:47 a.m.
GameboyRMH said:

Looks good, but it's too rich for my blood (a used 86 was plenty expensive enough TYVM) and it's beyond my preferred weight class. It's very much like a modernized 300ZX and the taillight panel is clearly a tribute to that model.

z31maniac said:

There are also rumors now that the Supra is going to get a manual transmission for MY23 and may also get the 501 hp S motor as opposed to the 382 hp B58 engine. 

Even more too rich for my blood, but I would want that a lot more!

It has tributes to pretty much every Z model all throughout not just 300zx. Heavy 240 influence as well. I agree it's going to be very expensive but you get a lot more with something like this (twin turbo 400hp stock) than an 86 so it's never going to be comparable. If a Z is too heavy for you, a Supra probably is too as I think they are within a couple hundred pounds of each other. I can't think of anything that makes decent power being less than 2500 lbs that doesn't have 2 wheels.

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
1/14/22 12:55 p.m.
GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/14/22 1:05 p.m.

So that price converts to $61kUSD, in Japan, before any possible dealer markup surprise

(Mind you that's for the Proto Spec which is a limited edition model with special paint, the factory price for regular models will be less)

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
1/27/22 10:17 a.m.
mr2s2000elise said:
z31maniac said:
mr2s2000elise said:

Probably 3300-3400 lbs

Please take note of my prediction on the first page. 
 

3400lbs, 400hp, $40k.

Yup. You usually nail it.

 

Much respect as always brother! Especially as I share your distaste for yard art, lowering property value type "projects." Hope all is well my friend smileyyes

It appears for the Sport model, I was off by 85 lbs. I expect the Performance trim with leather and BOSE and a few other things to add in the 40-50 lb range. 

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/threads/2023-nissan-z-vehicle-price-ordering-guide-leaked-first-look.805/

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
1/27/22 11:57 a.m.
mr2peak
mr2peak Dork
1/27/22 12:08 p.m.

So 3536lbs. I wonder if that ready to run with coolant and tires and oil and a battery, or if they are playing games with the weights?

calteg
calteg Dork
1/27/22 12:42 p.m.

The new body Mustang GT comes out in 2024, I'd be curious to see how the two stack up. I suspect weight will be pretty close, and there's a lot of speculation that it will have 500+hp

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
1/27/22 12:58 p.m.
calteg said:

The new body Mustang GT comes out in 2024, I'd be curious to see how the two stack up. I suspect weight will be pretty close, and there's a lot of speculation that it will have 500+hp

I doubt it. The current gen GT is already a few hundred pounds heavier. Unless they bring out a new platform like Chevy did with the Alpha a few years back and drop some weight. Everything I've read so far says the S650 is going to be an evolution of the S550, not an all new-platform.

The engine/turbo's/heat exchangers are all the same as the current INfinity engine, which apparently picks up 100hp with a tune.

calteg
calteg Dork
1/27/22 2:48 p.m.

In reply to z31maniac :

Solid point about the weight. For long term reliability, I like a n/a V8 over a TTV6. Moot point as I won't be buying either one brand new

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
1/27/22 3:56 p.m.
calteg said:

In reply to z31maniac :

Solid point about the weight. For long term reliability, I like a n/a V8 over a TTV6. Moot point as I won't be buying either one brand new

I agree on the relability front. And of course, there are the great sounds a V8 makes. 

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 PowerDork
1/27/22 5:38 p.m.
calteg said:

In reply to z31maniac :

Solid point about the weight. For long term reliability, I like a n/a V8 over a TTV6. Moot point as I won't be buying either one brand new

This is my issue with the new Tundra/Sequoia. I'm in the market for a new truck/suv and might have to find one of those around to fit the bill. I hear the new 3.4TT is already a headache for some owners. 

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