When did you realize you sent it a little too hard?

Colin
By Colin Wood
Nov 20, 2021 | crash, Accident, Send It

Legendary driver Mario Andretti is credited for saying “If everything seems under control, you’re just not fast enough.”

That might be true, but do you have a moment when you realized that everything was certainly not under control–that maybe, just maybe, you sent it a little too hard?

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ PowerDork
11/15/21 8:29 a.m.

no it was fine

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
11/15/21 8:40 a.m.

When I'm in a bad position for the next corner.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
11/15/21 8:43 a.m.

Many years, at a local autocross, I figured that if I took this one particular turn a bit wider than everyone else, I could maintain a lot more momentum.

When I heard all the gravel, marbles and debris bouncing off the bottom of my car as it started to spin off the course, I realized that it was no longer the hot setup.

Matt B (fs)
Matt B (fs) UltraDork
11/15/21 8:46 a.m.

Regarding what Pete said...

It was pretty quickly after I successfully passed that guy I-was-totally-convinced-I-could-pass going into the kink at CMP.  On one hand, I was correct in my assumption. I did pass him.  On the other, I was quickly reminded that not a place you want to be at pace and off the line. 

dculberson
dculberson MegaDork
11/15/21 9:09 a.m.

In reply to Matt B (fs) :

Oof. I made a pass going into the kink at CMP and as I settled into the line realized that a BMW had passed the same car on the right and we were headed for the same line out of the kink. He locked it up for a bit and I adjusted my line and we were fine but it was a brown shorts moment. I'm not sure how fast I was going then, but a prior GPS lap showed 110mph so it was not slow.

JoeTR6
JoeTR6 Dork
11/15/21 9:23 a.m.

There was that autocross where I ended up pointing backwards in the stop garage and could still see people running away in the rear view mirror.  This was the result of a 90 degree turn at the end of the course and a "both feet in" situation.  Amazingly it was a clean run.

rslifkin
rslifkin UberDork
11/15/21 9:32 a.m.

In this video, right about 17:45, and then again, not quite as badly at about 18:45.  

https://youtu.be/kPwoWxDf4y8?t=1064

Stayed in the throttle a bit too long in a slalom.  Glanced down as I lifted towards the end and saw something in the ballpark of 60.  I was sideways before I even touched the brakes with no hope of making the turnaround without something getting messy.  That was always my downfall of driving the Jeep in a rallycross.  Any tight, low speed course feature slow and often messy.  But the more open, faster sections of course were really fast, as it was one of the only cars in the field that had both enough power to get up and fly through those sections and enough tire to use that power (and would take a slalom well at speed). 

DeadSkunk  (Warren)
DeadSkunk (Warren) UltimaDork
11/15/21 9:40 a.m.

Started outside on the front row, left lane. Decided I had to stay even with the pole sitter all the way to turn 3 to have a chance to lead. At turn 2 ( right hander) the GTI lost the rear, spun 180*, and struck the inside curb with the left front wheel and began to go up on two wheels. At some point ( 2nd pic ) I looked out the side window at grass and realized it wasn't coming back down, at least not on its wheels. Two and a half rolls later it stopped on its roof.

vNo photo description available.

Floating Doc (Forum Supporter)
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11/15/21 9:55 a.m.

I used to say that I had done every rookie mistake in autocross except hit timing.

Then we had a torrential rain at DeLand. I spun off coming through the finish and just caught  the box with the back of the car, but late enough to still get a clean run with a recorded time. 
 

gearheadE30
gearheadE30 Dork
11/15/21 10:16 a.m.

One moment in particular when I suddenly realized I wasn't as good a driver as I thought at age 16 in my E30: ran out of opposite lock trying to save a slide on a highway off ramp and proceeded to beach the car in the pile of drainage stone at the bottom of the cloverleaf. That car taught me a lot about lift throttle oversteer, and about showing off...

Duke
Duke MegaDork
11/15/21 10:26 a.m.

In reply to Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) :

Hitting the timing gear = automatic DNF in our club.  And maybe a "you're done for today" chat.

SJR SCCA autocrosses at Bader Field in Atlantic City, an old 3-runway civil airport.  Basically course length is limited only by the number of people registered to provide enough corner workers.  They get some pretty wide-open courses.

Last time I played there, the course finish was a large, 90-degree left into a little wiggle before the exit lights.  I came through the left way too hot and trying to keep the back end in line, but the wiggle killed me.  I did a big loopy 540, narrowly missing the timing gear to the outside.  Luckily I did not go into the grass (and so avoided earning a seagull sticker)  but I wound up backwards right on the edge of the paving, next to the stop box.  I dumped the clutch and  drove back onto the course outside the timing lights, snapped it around, and ended the run normally.

All told it was entirely an exercise in overdriving and adrenaline, and I'm surprised I didn't get yelled at.  I would have yelled at myself if I was the safety steward.  Luckily nothing bad came of it; either they red flagged the car behind me or else there was enough gap that I didn't create a problem.

 

AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter)
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11/15/21 10:35 a.m.

On the 13th attempt at this:

I learned that the diff will only survive 12 such attempts.

NOTE:  that's not me and that's not my Greenbrier.  mine was same color but in much worse condition.

bearmtnmartin (Forum Supporter)
bearmtnmartin (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
11/15/21 10:41 a.m.

When I was about fifteen and I had the circular imprint of my Honda XR speedometer embossed into my chest for over a week. 

Colin Wood
Colin Wood Associate Editor
11/15/21 10:46 a.m.

Does it count if I was in the passenger seat when the driver sent it too hard?

The short version is that the driver was test driving a C6 Corvette ZR1. He didn't realize that traction control was turned off. At the first straight bit of road, he put his foot into it and–you guessed it–the back end stepped out pretty hard.

Thankfully, nobody was injured–unless you count the fire hydrant that got knocked over (but somehow didn't start spewing water everywhere).

revvhappy
revvhappy New Reader
11/15/21 11:16 a.m.

 

At 18 years-old on a Yamaha RD400 I learned the difference between on-camber and off-camber pavement. I was exiting a large traffic circle with far too much speed for the 90 degree right-hander and crossed the double-yellow line - that's the moment I understood off-camber as I continued right through the opposite lane. Thank god there was nobody there.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/15/21 11:30 a.m.

Just after all 4 wheels left the ground. Only took a little too much speed coming off of the funbox:

kazoospec
kazoospec PowerDork
11/15/21 11:43 a.m.

First year autocrossing, I signed up for a higher speed event at Grattan.  We started out on a dry track, and got some pretty heavy rain just before my last run.  Like any good rookie/idiot, I tried to match the dry pace in the wet.  Doubling down on my idiocy, when the back end started stepping out (on a front heavy, FWD car), I stabbed the brakes, which was the absolute wrong thing to do.  The car spun so fast I couldn't rotate my helmeted head fast enough to keep up.  My lingering mental picture is watching most of the spin out the side window as a result.  I went into the grass/dirt/mud backwards and re-arranged a fair amount of the trackside landscaping.  Fortunately, no damage was done to the vehicle or any persons, just my pride and sense of competency as a driver. 

fidelity101 (Forum Supporter)
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11/15/21 12:04 p.m.

 

the only people to jump it further than us was the factory subaru drivers. We went as far as ken block more or less. 

 

 

we won the internet that day at service park. Definitley had thoughts mid air that I was going to end up like Pitor Fetela:

 

same corner, a few years earlier:

 

Matt B (fs)
Matt B (fs) UltraDork
11/15/21 1:08 p.m.
dculberson said:

In reply to Matt B (fs) :

Oof. I made a pass going into the kink at CMP and as I settled into the line realized that a BMW had passed the same car on the right and we were headed for the same line out of the kink. He locked it up for a bit and I adjusted my line and we were fine but it was a brown shorts moment. I'm not sure how fast I was going then, but a prior GPS lap showed 110mph so it was not slow.

That does sound like a scooby-doo "ruh-roh" moment.  Events like that are why I affectionately refer to the kink as the pucker zone.  I've had quite the relationship with that particular corner. It went from cautious comfort to mind-games after my incident, then to finally conquering my own BS.  I now use it for passing opportunities again.  However, those often happen after the kink as I am usually able to carry more momentum than most into turn 11.  Probably my favorite part of the track.

Matt B (fs)
Matt B (fs) UltraDork
11/15/21 1:15 p.m.

In reply to fidelity101 (Forum Supporter) :

AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter)
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/15/21 1:23 p.m.

i'm with MattB on this one.  pretty sure fidelity101's post could have a /thread behind it.

Junkers
Junkers New Reader
11/15/21 1:27 p.m.

In reply to David S. Wallens :

Congrats, you found the unfair advantage!  But was it really a 10/10ths edge or more of an 8 or 9 tenths edge?  Sounds like you repeated it many times where others were afraid.  If lack of fear put you at an advantage, should you relinquish your fearlessness to "play fair" with the feeble competition?  I've found people play too conservative and leave a lot on the table to be had.

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa PowerDork
11/15/21 1:32 p.m.

My second or third autocross ever, guy had his brand new Z06 out, 471-miles-on-it-new.

Goes out once to learn the course.  Talks to a buddy, goes out one more time and returns, talks strategy one more time then goes out and turns his traction control off for his third run.

Midway through the track was a slalom that ended in a hairpin and you came back parallel to the slalom. There was a little concrete median/island thingie out there that normally wasn't a concern cause it was at least 50-60 feet from the track.  Roughly 6" tall, about three or four feet wide, dozen feet long

Well this guy sent it, spun out at the end of the slalom and somehow in his slide he perfectly hit the median in such a way that both driver's side wheels got sent airborne and he sailed over the entire damn thing.  Slid an extra 10 feet or so once he landed.  Both driver's wheels had a 6" chunk taken out of the lip 

Junkers
Junkers New Reader
11/15/21 1:35 p.m.

In reply to Matt B (fs) :

Interesting!  Sounds like you got a little bit of PTSD from the mishandled stress of it.  Also sounds like you found a way back through it.

Matt B (fs)
Matt B (fs) UltraDork
11/15/21 1:48 p.m.

In reply to Junkers :

Yeah pretty much a good summation. Luckily endurance racing gives you a lot of chances to redeem yourself.

Tom1200
Tom1200 UltraDork
11/15/21 1:57 p.m.

Oh Lord where to start:

There was the 85 mph tank slapper pitched over the bars on the lake road (after ignoring the three big tank slapper before that)

The infamous pull the hand brake at 70 mph in my mothers Pinto (multiple 360s)

So stocking with race track stupidity I tried to pass someone on the out side in a 3rd gear left right bend for 4th place overall.  The other driver was a bit slow in the left hander so I decided I could go round the outside and dive under him going into the right hander. Unfortunately someone had gone off there and dragged a bunch of gravel onto the course. It ws late in the day so I could see all the gravel off line until it was too late. I went roaring through the dirt throwing even more gravel onto the course as well as scattering the cars behind us and came spinning out on to the front straight in front of everyone...............I still managed 6th place.

 

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
11/15/21 1:59 p.m.

Going through the 7,8,9 at Hallett I ran wide out of 7 hit the curbing in 8 (and it's off camber there) I couldn't get the bike slowed down and turned in. 

Ended flipping the bike over the front wheel and was knocked out long enough they stopped the session. 

akylekoz
akylekoz SuperDork
11/15/21 2:16 p.m.

Young and dumb in my 89 M3, hit the kink at the top of third ( about 85mph)  gear.  A four wheel drift ensued, right up to the edge of the pavement.  Grabbed fourth and carried on.

 

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt UltimaDork
11/15/21 2:20 p.m.

There was a time I noticed a forklift seemed to have a lot of body roll if you cornered too fast.

Then I realized forklifts don't have suspension. surprise

j_tso
j_tso GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
11/15/21 2:52 p.m.

For Ricky Taylor, it was probably right before he hit the brakes.

Matt B (fs)
Matt B (fs) UltraDork
11/15/21 3:09 p.m.
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) said:

i'm with MattB on this one.  pretty sure fidelity101's post could have a /thread behind it.

Yeah, in my story I was basically just being a dumbass while fidelity101 is out there Dukes of Hazzarding his RX7 through the woods.  That man doesn't need a stool. He can just sit on his balls.

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe PowerDork
11/15/21 3:53 p.m.

Slicks and street tires do not make the same sound when they let go. Pulling gavel out of the bottom of a viper is a humbling experiance. Better then hitting a wall I suppose. 

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
11/15/21 5:06 p.m.
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) said:

i'm with MattB on this one.  pretty sure fidelity101's post could have a /thread behind it.

It was rad as all hell but it wasn't too far.  He made it through the stage and his suspension wasn't rammed through the towers smiley

I don't remember hearing the "ow....  OWW...!!" afterwards.  Kept rewinding to the jump part before the video ended I guess.

Jay_W
Jay_W SuperDork
11/15/21 5:22 p.m.

When the brake pedal goes to the floor and the car doesn't notice, you sent it too far. Now, I don't think Fidelity's post is a thread ender, cuz they didn't crash or break the car too much. That was the Right and Proper amount of send and was quite impressive (OTOH that clip of Pitor prettymuch shows waaaayyyy too much send). I figure if there's Too Much send, you might not have the best ET on that stage.  When, say, you think you can take the chicane at the back end of PIR wide open, cuz you're on the Yokos and not the rally tires, and going in, you become aware that maybe you can't: 

 

 " So, are we in trouble?" 

"yeah, perhaps.." 

"Do you happen to know where the timing gate is?" "I think it's riiiight over there, no, there. Stop spinning so I can point it out dammit."

"Clean run. Totally planned that."

ShawnG
ShawnG UltimaDork
11/15/21 5:34 p.m.

Caught air on my motorcycle at a railway grade crossing, trying to beat the train.

I won but it was f---ing stupid to put it mildly.

Jay_W
Jay_W SuperDork
11/15/21 5:43 p.m.

I don't *try* to be in the wrong place at the wrong time to provide amusement for speccies with cameras, but here' the *other* time my boneheadedness was captured. If you find yourself using That which is Not Road as Road, you may have sent it too far.

"Oopsie-daisy, did you say 90 right?"  "Um, yeah."

 

"Ah. Well, OK then, lessee here.."

"Maybe we should trade seats." "Nah, we're good"

 

​​​​​​

Tom1200
Tom1200 UltraDork
11/15/21 5:50 p.m.

In reply to Jay_W :

As someone who treated the roads of Southern Nevada as their own personal Isle of Man (especially the Red Rock scenic loop) I am thankful no one every got video of my motorcycle riding antics.  More than once I cleared an entire 6 lane intersection about a foot off the ground at 100mph. I thought nothing of it at the time but if there were videos of it I'd probably shat myself watching them.

 

I think the operative word is realize.................back then it would have never registered.

Apex Fiend
Apex Fiend New Reader
11/15/21 6:15 p.m.

Had always been told to jump on the brakes hard at the initial braking point going into a turn. Was starting to feel pretty confident in that. Got passed by a GT-R at VIR in my E36 M3. Noticed he was braking real early going into T1. Probably about 600 feet out. Well before the 5 marker. I had been braking about the 4 marker and thought, I can reel him back in no problem if I hit them just a little later. Foot to the floor until the 3 marker. Jumped on the brakes harder (and quicker) than ever... and the car did not slow down.. much. Enter ice mode... I think. If I had know that was a thing I would have known what to do. Instead, went off (unfortunately not straight... also something I didn't think of in the moment) and sort of slid in the grass on the left side of the right hander until I brushed the tire wall. Enough to knock the metal valve stem, among other things on the car, off the left front wheel. sad

Toyman01 + Sized and
Toyman01 + Sized and GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/15/21 6:19 p.m.

When the first thing to hit the water was the back of the outboard engine. 

Yacht wakes in the intercoastal get rather large and a 15' Bonito apparently lands transom first. 

Pete Gossett (Forum Supporter)
Pete Gossett (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/15/21 6:23 p.m.
gearheadE30 said:

One moment in particular when I suddenly realized I wasn't as good a driver as I thought at age 16 in my E30: ran out of opposite lock trying to save a slide on a highway off ramp and proceeded to beach the car in the pile of drainage stone at the bottom of the cloverleaf. That car taught me a lot about lift throttle oversteer, and about showing off...

I hit the marbles - most likely road salt as it was winter & there was snow on the ground - on a clover-leaf heading to work in my 88 Jetta. 

I saw the woman I'd just hurried to pass drive by me about the time I hit the 180* mark, but somehow managed to get it into first, not get stuck in the snow(crappy all-seasons), and get the car to rotate the rest of the way around. 

I caught back up to her & passed her(again) as soon as we'd merged onto the interstate. 

I always wondered what she told her coworkers about the encounter. 

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
11/15/21 6:27 p.m.
akylekoz said:

Young and dumb in my 89 M3, hit the kink at the top of third ( about 85mph)  gear.  A four wheel drift ensued, right up to the edge of the pavement.  Grabbed fourth and carried on.

 

Ah yes, the "I meant to do that" maneuver.

Full incar.  Not nearly as impressive looking as the GIF. 

NOT A TA
NOT A TA UltraDork
11/15/21 9:40 p.m.

BMX race practice at an ABA Gold Cup qualifier. People taking videos (before phones could) at a step jump. Buddy Mike Savage and I were hitting the jump in sequence each time around and while Mike is an awesome jumper I was really fast but not so great a jumper. One lap Mike hits the jump and does a perfect look back while I follow right behind. In the air, looking down and back, the moment comes where I realize I hit it a little too hard.  I see the full landing area and there's no way I'm going to hit it, a flat bottom landing is inevitable and I'm now about 8-10 feet up in the air. Did everything right, pitched the bike and tried to roll on impact. Not a scratch on me and no bike damage but the sudden stop was too much, broken spleen.

ShawnG
ShawnG UltimaDork
11/15/21 11:04 p.m.

In reply to Jay_W :

Is that the hood scoop from a 280ZX?

rslifkin
rslifkin UberDork
11/16/21 8:47 a.m.
Pete Gossett (Forum Supporter) said:

I hit the marbles - most likely road salt as it was winter & there was snow on the ground - on a clover-leaf heading to work in my 88 Jetta. 

I saw the woman I'd just hurried to pass drive by me about the time I hit the 180* mark, but somehow managed to get it into first, not get stuck in the snow(crappy all-seasons), and get the car to rotate the rest of the way around. 

I caught back up to her & passed her(again) as soon as we'd merged onto the interstate. 

I always wondered what she told her coworkers about the encounter. 

That reminds me of another one.  Getting on the highway on a cold but dry winter day in the Jeep.  Took it easy on the curvy on-ramp, then went WOT from 40-ish just after the last curve.  Snow tires held on just fine.  Got to about 60 as I hit the beginning of the merge zone.  Had a clear spot, so started to move over.  And failed to notice that while the on ramp was pretty clean, the entire highway had a 1/4" or better layer of rock salt on it.  As soon as the back tires hit the right lane, I was at 60, WOT and pointing straight for the median.  Tail just snapped right out.  Wound in full lock, chopped the throttle and proceeded to snap straight (with a little throttle right as it grabbed) and landed perfectly into the left lane (of 3). 

Definitely one of those "yep, I totally meant to do that" moments.  Of course, the best part was looking in the rear view after I got straightened out (still doing 50 or so) and seeing all of the cars behind me that had slammed on their brakes in sheer panic and were now packing together way back there as I continued on like everything was fine. 

mke
mke Dork
11/16/21 8:58 a.m.

Sitting at a stop sign, I can see the kid in the ..corrola? in front on my looking in the mirror at at 308 (when it was still running and had a 600ish hp supercharged v8)  behind him so he does his best burnout heading across the intersection and up the hill....and by best I mean...5ft? :)  A few cars pass and I decide move briskly up the hill closing the gap to the toyota  as he rounded a a turn at the top.  I thought I knew the road well and rounded to turn again at a brisk pace and rolled the throttle open and was now closing very fast on toyota the the tach goes from like 5k to 8k revlimiter..what the???I backed off the throttle and pressed it again, redline again...what did I break? ..No it was just that the car was airborne nearly completely closed the gap and was going...oh 30+mhp fast than the car in front with no way to slow down.....had about 10-15 feet when I got tires on the ground and brakes back and tires hollowing as I locked them up scaring the E36 M3 out of myself and the poor kid in front of me because I'd decided to drive like the bigger jackass.  And that is why its important to observe all posted signs.

GM > MG
GM > MG New Reader
11/16/21 9:50 a.m.

 

Lime Rock - Off the line, on the exit of turn 1 Big Ben headed to the S's.

My 1st realization is when I noticed, the back of the car was in the front and the front of the car was in the back. That happened in a short millisecond.

The 2nd was when I hit the tire wall backwards, and a wave of the foulest tire water ever flooded in thru the open window.

Minor damage to me and car. Dream that I was going to be next greatest driver destroyed tho...

crying

 

Pic not me but taken at same spot, same effect.

Floating Doc (Forum Supporter)
Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
11/16/21 10:37 a.m.

I was looking at a tire wall the other week wondering if you could drill holes in the tires to keep them from accumulating water. Looking at the picture above, I think the water actually helps serve to dissipate energy during a hit.

Jay_W
Jay_W SuperDork
11/16/21 11:50 a.m.

In reply to ShawnG :

It might very well be but I didnt do that mod, it came to me with that item.  

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/16/21 11:56 a.m.
Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) said:

I was looking at a tire wall the other week wondering if you could drill holes in the tires to keep them from accumulating water. Looking at the picture above, I think the water actually helps serve to dissipate energy during a hit.

Some places in the world you have to drill them out to avoid creating the mosquito breeding ground from hell.

Tom1200
Tom1200 UltraDork
11/16/21 11:58 a.m.

In reply to GM > MG :

Oh you reminded me of a good one.

My Showroom Stock C Miata; on the opening lap I blew past two Spec Rx7s in the brake zone for turn two and did a beautiful slide job into the corner.

Next lap there are three RX7s and I decided to repeat the manouver; I blow past all three car execute a beautiful slide job into the corner pick up the throttle and for a split second all was well..............then it wasn't.

I went form a glorious 4 wheel drift to a 4 wheel wash in a nanosecond. The car went pogoing through the gravel trap totally sideways, all the while gravel came pouring in the driver's side window like Godzilla spat out a mouthful of dirt, until finally the car came to a stop. When the dust cleared I couldn't have been more then 6" from the tire wall. 

I sat in the gravel trap and watched as the last place car droned past, twice!  My ego was stabbed in the heart and everytime the last placed car droned past it just twisted the blade. 

Thnakfully the Spec RX7 guys drove in their usual manner, so once I'd been pulled out of the gravel I manged not to finish dead last..................but my sutpidity still hurt. Especially considering I used the car as a daily driver.

Ian F (Forum Supporter)
Ian F (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
11/16/21 12:00 p.m.

In reply to NOT A TA :

I've had similar experiences racing DH and Enduro.  The best riders can ride on the edge of grip and let the bikes slide, all while being comfortable being slightly out of control.  I can't do that. I'm an "8/10ths" rider - good at riding within my limits, but not so good when I try to push it.  The only time this ever helped me was in mud races where if you could just stay on your bike, you'd do well. The whole "push too hard and hit trees" aspect of mtn bike racing tends to keep "send it!" in check.  There is a little bit of that when hitting bigger drops and jumps, but in my opinion those get easier with experience rather than pure bravado.

For autocross, no... at least not beyond an occasional spin, or under-steer plow.  Hopefully I'll get to one of the Bader events next year.  Those do look like fun.

tuna55
tuna55 MegaDork
11/16/21 1:13 p.m.
dculberson said:

In reply to Matt B (fs) :

Oof. I made a pass going into the kink at CMP and as I settled into the line realized that a BMW had passed the same car on the right and we were headed for the same line out of the kink. He locked it up for a bit and I adjusted my line and we were fine but it was a brown shorts moment. I'm not sure how fast I was going then, but a prior GPS lap showed 110mph so it was not slow.

This object has been temporarily removed as we revise its facial expression, which was deemed zoologically improbable and/or terrifying to small children.

I've done that. There. About that fast. I wonder if I was next to you?

Floating Doc (Forum Supporter)
Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
11/16/21 1:45 p.m.

In reply to GameboyRMH :

Some places in the world you have to drill them out to avoid creating the mosquito breeding ground from hell.

 

Oh yeah, like here. 

jharry3
jharry3 GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/16/21 4:26 p.m.

65 Mustang Fastback.  Built engine.  GT350 springs and sway bars.

There was this interstate exit that crossed a major highway with a stoplight.  If I caught the traffic and the light right I could take this turn at 50 mph.  I did this all the time.  Except one time the road was wet, I was with my new girlfriend, not paying attention to driving.  I tapped the brakes when I started to spin, did a 180, lifted the brakes, front wheels were pointed to steer into the skid but the car was traveling backward by then.  So the right fender crashed into left side guardrail.  I fortunately could drive away before anyone could call the cops. 

fidelity101 (Forum Supporter)
fidelity101 (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
11/17/21 2:05 p.m.
Matt B (fs) said:

In reply to fidelity101 (Forum Supporter) :

100% worth it, especially since they are not running that stage anymore (yet) 

 

land owner/access rights/local drama etc

 

 

time will tell...

Matt B (fs)
Matt B (fs) UltraDork
11/18/21 8:31 a.m.

In reply to fidelity101 (Forum Supporter) :

That's too bad. Although I can imagine there are some that are happy not to have to deal with that particular part of the stage.

nderwater
nderwater UltimaDork
11/18/21 5:47 p.m.

I'm too embarrassed to post pix, but let's just say the realization that you sent it a little too hard comes up fast.  it's pretty easy to cross that line that separates "FULL SEND" from "OH NO"

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/19/21 5:30 p.m.

That time when time slowed down and the sky and the track had swapped places and it was kind of quiet and peaceful and you think to yourself. I bet this is going to need a bit more than a lick of paint.

 

Sent it a bit to far that time.

Duke
Duke MegaDork
11/19/21 7:28 p.m.
dean1484 said:

That time when time slowed down and the sky and the track had swapped places and it was kind of quiet and peaceful and you think to yourself. I bet this is going to need a bit more than a lick of paint.

I have been in 3 - yes, 3 - rollover accidents*, and it is exactly like that.

* Only one where I was driving.

 

car39
car39 Dork
11/20/21 9:18 a.m.

Pocono North Course, turning into the infield.  Missed the braking point at the next turn and sailed off course.  My sole purpose in life at that point was to avoid being entangled in the chain link fence.  I paralleled the fence for what seemed like 20 minutes as the gravel, rocks, sand and whatnot beat the bottom of my car.  I had an 8mm in car video of me yelling "Frack, frack, FRACK! or something like it, the entire time.  No real damage except to my ego.

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/20/21 1:07 p.m.
Duke said:
dean1484 said:

That time when time slowed down and the sky and the track had swapped places and it was kind of quiet and peaceful and you think to yourself. I bet this is going to need a bit more than a lick of paint.

I have been in 3 - yes, 3 - rollover accidents*, and it is exactly like that.

* Only one where I was driving.

 

I had another picker moment in the last corner at Bridgehampton but it was due to tire failure not me sending it. 

Tom1200
Tom1200 UltraDork
11/20/21 1:38 p.m.
dean1484 said:
Duke said:
dean1484 said:

That time when time slowed down and the sky and the track had swapped places and it was kind of quiet and peaceful and you think to yourself. I bet this is going to need a bit more than a lick of paint.

I have been in 3 - yes, 3 - rollover accidents*, and it is exactly like that.

* Only one where I was driving.

 

 

For me I find it to be the opposite; when I'm really dialled in everything goes in slow motion . 

When things go wrong it's like someone pressed fast forward on a video. This seems especially so with some of my more violent motorcyle crashes.

With that said I can vividly remember every detail as it's etched in my mind.

chandler
chandler UltimaDork
11/20/21 2:03 p.m.
nderwater said:

I'm too embarrassed to post pix, but let's just say the realization that you sent it a little too hard comes up fast.  it's pretty easy to cross that line that separates "FULL SEND" from "OH NO"

I'd like to see the pics...

rslifkin
rslifkin UberDork
11/21/21 8:37 a.m.
Tom1200 said:

For me I find it to be the opposite; when I'm really dialled in everything goes in slow motion . 

When things go wrong it's like someone pressed fast forward on a video. This seems especially so with some of my more violent motorcyle crashes.

With that said I can vividly remember every detail as it's etched in my mind.

I think it depends on what kind of going wrong you've got.  When it's the "I can no longer do anything useful and just need to ride it out" type it goes slow motion.  When there's still control and a chance of saving or improving the situation, then it's usually the fast forward, runing on pure instinct, have to work to remember afterwards exactly what you did to get yourself out of that kind of thing. 

Carsandbikes
Carsandbikes Reader
11/21/21 11:25 a.m.

I once hit a railroad crossing in my Crown Victoria at about 55-60 mph.  Unfortunately, it was one of those crossings where the road is slightly below the tracks on one side and quite a bit lower than the tracks on the other.  I was truly surprised that I didn't break something under the car, but as a " retired " police car I guess it was engineered for that type of driving.

Tom1200
Tom1200 UltraDork
11/21/21 1:39 p.m.
rslifkin said:
Tom1200 said:

For me I find it to be the opposite; when I'm really dialled in everything goes in slow motion . 

When things go wrong it's like someone pressed fast forward on a video. This seems especially so with some of my more violent motorcyle crashes.

With that said I can vividly remember every detail as it's etched in my mind.

I think it depends on what kind of going wrong you've got.  When it's the "I can no longer do anything useful and just need to ride it out" type it goes slow motion.  When there's still control and a chance of saving or improving the situation, then it's usually the fast forward, runing on pure instinct, have to work to remember afterwards exactly what you did to get yourself out of that kind of thing. 

So at the risk of being completely contrary: 

When you're getting a beat down from the tarmac (motorcyle) the raw violence of the moment is happening way faster than your mind can process, your brain says "ouch my ankle felt like it snapped" followed instantly by "ouch I think my wrist just snapped" hence the fast foreward.

The car is the same to a lesser degree; a spin at 80mph is no big deal but bouncing through a gravel trap sideways 80 mph feels like 80mph........especially when you can't see a damn thing other than scenery whizzing past the windshield at 90 degree angle.

Honsch
Honsch Reader
11/21/21 2:44 p.m.

I sent it too hard when the spinning stops you need the wipers to clear the dirt off of the windshield to see when it's safe to re-enter the track.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/22/21 2:42 p.m.
car39 said:

Pocono North Course, turning into the infield.  Missed the braking point at the next turn and sailed off course.  My sole purpose in life at that point was to avoid being entangled in the chain link fence.  I paralleled the fence for what seemed like 20 minutes as the gravel, rocks, sand and whatnot beat the bottom of my car.  I had an 8mm in car video of me yelling "Frack, frack, FRACK! or something like it, the entire time.  No real damage except to my ego.

Fun fact: if you brush a chainlink fence at speed with your mirror, it makes a noise like a giant zipper.

Tom1200
Tom1200 UltraDork
11/22/21 3:42 p.m.
GameboyRMH said:

Fun fact: if you brush a chainlink fence at speed with your mirror, it makes a noise like a giant zipper.

That's hysterical..............my subconscious now wants to try it.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
11/22/21 4:58 p.m.
Tom1200 said:
GameboyRMH said:

Fun fact: if you brush a chainlink fence at speed with your mirror, it makes a noise like a giant zipper.

That's hysterical..............my subconscious now wants to try it.

My mom used to work in an oral surgery/reconstruction clinic.  I got to see some neat stuff (photos/X-rays).

Ever see the effects of the top of a chainlink fence (the horizontal pole) going through someone's face?

The surgeons were very, very good at their job...

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
11/22/21 8:09 p.m.

In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :

...got pics?

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