Would you rock a C7 Corvette FRC?

David S.
By David S. Wallens
Jun 25, 2021 | Chevrolet, Corvette, C7

Today’s interoffice communication: Chevy should have continued the Fixed Roof Coupe with the C6 and later Corvettes.

And, of course, the internet again delivers.

We found this rendering of a C7 Corvette FRC over at Z06vette.com.

So, who else is intrigued?

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JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
6/24/21 3:16 p.m.

FRC ALL THE THINGS!!!!!!!

OldGray320i
OldGray320i GRM+ Memberand Dork
6/24/21 3:20 p.m.

 Oh, good lord, I'd find a way to own that. 

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
6/24/21 3:51 p.m.

Aw yiss. 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
6/24/21 3:51 p.m.

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/24/21 5:08 p.m.

Yes please 

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe PowerDork
6/24/21 5:48 p.m.

I don't understand the FRC love. COrvettes have sloped back always have always should. 

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/24/21 5:52 p.m.

What's the advantage, a slight weight loss due to the lack of glass, compensated for by an increase in drag?

Serious question, I don't actually know what the point of the FRC is. Although it does explain why some people like the styling of the NC PRHT :)

Ian F (Forum Supporter)
Ian F (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
6/24/21 6:14 p.m.

In reply to Keith Tanner :

We can't have it, therefore we want it. 

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa UberDork
6/24/21 6:16 p.m.

Listen man, I'd rock just about anything RWD that has a nasty engine up front and a good weight/HP ratio.

That being said, yeah I gots time for an FRC vette

hunter47
hunter47 New Reader
6/24/21 6:25 p.m.

In reply to Keith Tanner :

I believe the FRC is a slightly stronger chassis (and I also believe is why the C5 Z06 only came in FRC). 

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/24/21 6:26 p.m.

In reply to hunter47 :

I can see that, the hatch is a pretty big hole in the structure.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
6/24/21 7:19 p.m.
wearymicrobe said:

I don't understand the FRC love. COrvettes have sloped back always have always should. 

You serious bout that, Clark? wink

CyberEric
CyberEric Dork
6/24/21 7:52 p.m.

I mean, I like it!

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
6/24/21 8:38 p.m.
wearymicrobe said:

I don't understand the FRC love. COrvettes have sloped back always have always should. 

One of the biggest issues with the Corvette is that it is a body on frame fiberglass car with a detachable roof.    The FRC fixes that.

It is amazing how creaky and noodly Corvettes with bolt-in roofs will get after a handful of miles.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
6/24/21 8:39 p.m.
hunter47 said:

In reply to Keith Tanner :

I believe the FRC is a slightly stronger chassis (and I also believe is why the C5 Z06 only came in FRC). 

It's also a fair bit lighter, too.

RichardSIA
RichardSIA HalfDork
6/25/21 10:00 a.m.

No.

Just bought a DD car, could have had a pretty nice 70's to 90's 'Vette for LESS, but having seen their depreciation and awkward entry - exit they were not even on my list to look at. New 'Vette prices are insane, could buy my dream car for that sort of money.

Any 53 - 57 model would be another story, but of course not being rich those are out of consideration too.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/25/21 10:05 a.m.
RichardSIA said:

Just bought a DD car, could have had a pretty nice 70's to 90's 'Vette for LESS, but having seen their depreciation and awkward entry - exit they were not even on my list to look at. New 'Vette prices are insane, could buy my dream car for that sort of money.

That's the thing. They are dream cars to some people.

Robbie (Forum Supporter)
Robbie (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/25/21 10:15 a.m.

I thought the FRC has slightly more drag but LESS rear lift (or something like that). 

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
6/25/21 10:18 a.m.

NOPE NOPE NOPE

msterbeau
msterbeau New Reader
6/25/21 10:40 a.m.

Hate.

RichardSIA
RichardSIA HalfDork
6/25/21 10:59 a.m.

With GM's recent supplication to the "Green" mafia it cannot really matter since they are going all EV and I do not see the 'Vette surviving that as anything recognizable as a 'Vette.

All the ICE engineers will be retrained or retired, "Learn to code!". Cannot see how we retain our engineering edge internationally when the dream jobs that were aspired to all go away.

Genuine styling has already been thrown out in favor of Aero/MPG above all, which may be why the original question came up.

Robbie (Forum Supporter)
Robbie (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/25/21 11:30 a.m.
Robbie (Forum Supporter) said:

I thought the FRC has slightly more drag but LESS rear lift (or something like that). 

Oh yeah, now I remember reading that on some smart people forum somewhere:

https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/aerodynamics-presented-nine-lives-racing/corvette-aerodynamics/172573/page1/

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/25/21 11:57 a.m.

Works good but still doesn't look as good as the sloped rear glass...somehow looks better than earlier FRC models though.

ErnieN85
ErnieN85 New Reader
6/25/21 11:58 a.m.

In reply to hunter47 :

nope, same frame and no reinforcments betweer the Apillar and the Bpillar

I often wished for that also the Hatch back had a higher top end

Stefan (Forum Supporter)
Stefan (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/25/21 11:59 a.m.
RichardSIA said:

With GM's recent supplication to the "Green" mafia it cannot really matter since they are going all EV and I do not see the 'Vette surviving that as anything recognizable as a 'Vette.

All the ICE engineers will be retrained or retired, "Learn to code!". Cannot see how we retain our engineering edge internationally when the dream jobs that were aspired to all go away.

Genuine styling has already been thrown out in favor of Aero/MPG above all, which may be why the original question came up.

You are such a ray of sunshine.  Thank you for participating in this forum.  I think it helps us all feel better because at least we're not as sour and bitter about everything automotive like you are.

There is no green mafia and car makers draw on engineering from across the world.  Thanks to the technology advancements, the world is feels smaller than it use to be and the differences in engineering around the world is rapidly shrinking.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/25/21 12:07 p.m.

I think Richard sorely underestimates the sheer amount of computing power to make a modern ICE function. Or to design it. If you're an ICE engineer and you can't work with computers, you're an unemployed ICE engineer.

I've been reading that geniune styling has been thrown out for aero for about 30 years now.

hunter47
hunter47 New Reader
6/25/21 12:22 p.m.
RichardSIA said:

With GM's recent supplication to the "Green" mafia it cannot really matter since they are going all EV and I do not see the 'Vette surviving that as anything recognizable as a 'Vette.

All the ICE engineers will be retrained or retired, "Learn to code!". Cannot see how we retain our engineering edge internationally when the dream jobs that were aspired to all go away.

Genuine styling has already been thrown out in favor of Aero/MPG above all, which may be why the original question came up.

Sir, ICE engineers have "known how to code" since EFI was invented. 

MotorsportsGordon
MotorsportsGordon Dork
6/25/21 12:24 p.m.
wearymicrobe said:

I don't understand the FRC love. COrvettes have sloped back always have always should. 

Well most of the c3 coupes have a buttress but not a sloped rear window and have a rear deck instead of a hatch rear 

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
6/25/21 12:26 p.m.

I'm pretty sure that GM is in the business of making money on mass produced vehicles, which means they have to polish their crystal ball and see where the mass market is going to be in 5, 10, 20 years.

Companies their size with their kinds of product lead times that don't do that either get very small or very defunct.  (Bought anything from British Leyland lately?)

 

We're rapidly approaching a turning point where EVs will be cheaper to produce than ICE vehicles.  It would be utterly foolish to ignore that.

BA5
BA5 GRM+ Memberand Reader
6/25/21 12:38 p.m.
RichardSIA said:

With GM's recent supplication to the "Green" mafia it cannot really matter since they are going all EV and I do not see the 'Vette surviving that as anything recognizable as a 'Vette.

All the ICE engineers will be retrained or retired, "Learn to code!". Cannot see how we retain our engineering edge internationally when the dream jobs that were aspired to all go away.

Genuine styling has already been thrown out in favor of Aero/MPG above all, which may be why the original question came up.

If you actually think speed is cool, then you'll love electric.  

Electric cars will be faster than ICE cars ever could be.  

RichardSIA
RichardSIA HalfDork
6/25/21 12:50 p.m.

I don't see BL as a fair comparison, too much (No surprise.) Green/Gov. mandate involved in their going under.

Remember when convertibles were on the verge of being outlawed by the Nanny state? I do, and the timing figured heavily in the death of traditional sports cars. Add in the irrational requirement to raise headlamp heights and spread width, 5 MPH bumpers (With 10 MPH expected next.), rushed "Emissions" systems to meet constantly changing standards that destroyed performance? You make My point that Gov. Org. policy was the real problem. Déjà vu?

Does not matter too much for me personally as I've got all the cars I ever expect to own. But I do feel a bit sorry for the younger folk who apparently are intended to never get to know what the real driving experience was like.

 

 

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
6/25/21 2:04 p.m.

If we're going to hang on to an outdated automotive anachronism that has been bettered by current technology just because it's cool, I say give me an FRC with a twin-clutch paddle box. 

JimS
JimS Reader
6/25/21 2:41 p.m.

In reply to BA5 :

Everyone knows electrics are fast.  Big deal. They are expensive golf carts. Appliances.  People on this board complain about the lack of involvement in an auto trans but rave about ev's. Environmentally all they do is relocate the pollution. 

BA5
BA5 GRM+ Memberand Reader
6/25/21 2:54 p.m.

In reply to JimS :

You know there's gas powered golf carts too, right?  

And even if they get their electricity from a coal plant; the combined efficiency of the coal plant and electrical distribution system is higher than that of an in-vehicle ICE.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
6/25/21 3:23 p.m.

In reply to RichardSIA :

I would argue that BL died because of insufficient intervention, either through a lack of antitrust regulation to keep all of their eggs out of one basket, or a lack of protective legislation to keep imports away.  It is neither here nor there.

 

It is amusing that the "real driving experience" is always what the beholder grew up with.  Points and carbs, VTEC Hondas, manually adjusted ignition timing and flatheads...

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/25/21 3:54 p.m.
Pete. (l33t FS) said:

It is amusing that the "real driving experience" is always what the beholder grew up with.  Points and carbs, VTEC Hondas, manually adjusted ignition timing and flatheads...

Exactly. I remember a saying along the lines of "anything that existed before you were born has always existed, anything that was invented before you reached 30 is new and exciting, anything after 30 is unnecessary and pointless". 

If you don't like EVs or modern cars, awesome. Good for you. There are people who still prefer carburetors over fuel injection and points over electronic ignition. But that doesn't mean you have to slag on the people that DO like EVs or the cars themselves. If you need noises and smells and vibrations to tell you that your car is moving or need to exert control over exactly what gear is selected at any given time and how, don't disparage those who are more interested in what is happening dynamically.

No Time
No Time SuperDork
6/25/21 4:27 p.m.
RichardSIA said:

All the ICE engineers will be retrained or retired, "Learn to code!". Cannot see how we retain our engineering edge internationally when the dream jobs that were aspired to all go away.

We retain the engineering edge by developing and advancing new technologies, not by hanging on to current technology.

We moved on from steam, which probably seemed pretty great at the time, in order to advance the ICE. Now we have street cars with 800 hp and a factory warranty. EVs are the next big leap in performance, range, and efficiency.

While ICE design may have been a dream job for some engineers, I'm sure there are plenty that dream of making the next performance EV.

I just hope my son is able to make a living working as an automotive tech, or find a way to adapt what he's learned to make a living and do the things he wants to after graduation from Voc school next year  

Just look at some of the changes that have taken place that have led to kids dreaming of doing things we never imagined when growing up. As and example, kids dream of being the next great YouTube star. That's something I couldn't have even imagined growing up, and now people are making millions on YouTube. 

RichardSIA
RichardSIA HalfDork
6/25/21 4:44 p.m.

Everyone will eventually lie in the bed they have made for themselves.

If you embrace the EV cult that is fine, so long as you do not attempt to force me to do the same.

That is the real problem, the EV cult will not accept any other ideology, it is all to be their way or no way.

CA and several other states are mandating no new ICE cars in the near future, which will make life more difficult for those of us who wish to remain ICE car owners. One more pressure tactic to force compliance with the new order.

I was never consulted about that new order, and naturally resent others just assuming their power to force it on me.

I cannot help feeling that most folk embracing EV's have not really thought through the full consequences, or maybe just do not care as long as they are not the ones being marginalized.

So I'm a Heretic, nothing new there and does not bother me a bit.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
6/25/21 5:08 p.m.

In reply to RichardSIA :

FWIW, no one consulted me about closing all the Blockbusters. 

OldGray320i
OldGray320i GRM+ Memberand Dork
6/25/21 5:34 p.m.
David S. Wallens said:

In reply to RichardSIA :

FWIW, no one consulted me about closing all the Blockbusters. 

That was all technology/consumer driven, nothing was regulated ala what CA is intending.   A lot of automotive technology is driven by regulation. 

Not the same thing. 

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
6/25/21 5:41 p.m.

In reply to RichardSIA :

One of the consequences is that gasoline is going to get very, very cheap.  It is not the primary reason we pull crude out of the ground, it is more of a byproduct.  

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
6/25/21 9:15 p.m.

johndej
johndej Dork
6/25/21 9:42 p.m.

Corvette threads of any type just brings out the worst in boomers somehow.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill MegaDork
6/25/21 9:44 p.m.
JG Pasterjak said:

FRC ALL THE THINGS!!!!!!!

Aren't you the guy that sold his FRC?

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
6/26/21 10:24 a.m.
spitfirebill said:
JG Pasterjak said:

FRC ALL THE THINGS!!!!!!!

Aren't you the guy that sold his FRC?

Don't remind us! (And that car was way sweet.)

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