Project VW Fox: How Our Iconic Budget Racer Can Be Yours

Tom
Update by Tom Suddard to the Volkswagen Fox project car
Mar 22, 2021

Even the best football teams have punters on the roster. Why? Because no matter how good a team is at gaining ground, the time will inevitably come when the best decision involves kicking the ball to the other team and start fresh on their next possession.

That’s why we’ve made the tough decision to punt our Volkswagen Fox to the opposite end zone. We’ve had tons of fun with the car over the past few years: The Fox entered our lives when we bought a dirt-cheap used race car, updated the safety gear, made it beautiful with a $200 paint job, then conquered both a 24 Hours of Lemons event at Barber and a ChampCar Endurance Series race during an IMSA weekend on Daytona’s high banks. Now it sits in a corner, still sporting that blown engine that parked it nearly a year ago.

We’d planned to spend the rest of 2020 fixing and campaigning the Fox, but thanks to the pandemic, we spent most of last season at home rather than at the track. And as we face a reopening world in 2021, we also face a harsh reality: We already have racing plans this year, and they revolve around our V6 Miata and our LS-swapped 350Z rather than around this little Volkswagen.

But just like a punted football that can still go on to score a touchdown, we still think our Fox can be a serious contender in the 24 Hours of Lemons, and we’re excited to pass it along to a team ready to finish what we started. That’s why we’ve just listed our entire Fox race effort: Car, safety gear, wings, spares, setup notes, parts car and all, on eBay Motors with no reserve and a starting bid of $0.99. You can see the full details, including a list of everything included, on the car’s auction page.

Happy bidding, and we hope to see the Fox back on track soon.

 

 

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11GTCS
11GTCS HalfDork
3/18/21 8:01 p.m.

In reply to Tom Suddard :

Well played. 

Stampie (FS)
Stampie (FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/18/21 8:03 p.m.

Damn you bastards.  It's already to $11.50.  Berking rich mofos.

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
3/18/21 8:06 p.m.

Text from a friend of mine just now: 

I asked my wife if I should place a $15 bid just for fun and she said “No because you might actually win it”

captdownshift (Forum Supporter)
captdownshift (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
3/18/21 8:06 p.m.

I kinda want to see it shipped to Germany to see if JG fan manage a sub 10 minute lap of the Ring in it. 

Javelin (Forum Supporter)
Javelin (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/18/21 8:07 p.m.

Bids $20.21, no dice. 

captdownshift (Forum Supporter)
captdownshift (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
3/18/21 8:07 p.m.

In reply to Tom Suddard :

If I literally win it for $69, I'll laugh hysterically. 

captdownshift (Forum Supporter)
captdownshift (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
3/18/21 8:12 p.m.

Serious question, what are the size and offset of the Koenigs? 

 

found it 15x7 (which should be between ET 25-35) 

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
3/18/21 8:19 p.m.

I have an Audi 5 cylinder engine/016 transmission/Quantum Syncro rearend that needs to be in a Fox.

The lack of title is troublesome for Ohio; if it's a car it needs a title.

 

....aaaaaand I'm outbid.  frown  Not that I NEED any more cars or anything.

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
3/18/21 8:25 p.m.

In reply to captdownshift (Forum Supporter) :

They're 15x7. Not sure on exact offset, but they're meant for a Miata.

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
3/18/21 8:25 p.m.

In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :

That would be super cool!

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
3/18/21 8:48 p.m.

Dang, $560? Too rich for my blood. 

GLWS. 

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
3/18/21 8:51 p.m.
David S. Wallens said:

Dang, $560? Too rich for my blood. 

GLWS. 

It said $610 for me.  Weird.

edit: There was an $800 bid that was retracted.

 

I know there's almost a week to go,  but I'd like to throw out there that if I get a second-chance win with my paltry bid, I'll have a FS thread to sell off a bunch of stuff.  And beg someone to stash it for me until I can figure a way to bring it home.   And realizing more and more this is a bad idea.

 

No good time ever started with a smart idea, did it?

 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
3/18/21 8:52 p.m.
Pete. (l33t FS) said:
David S. Wallens said:

Dang, $560? Too rich for my blood. 

GLWS. 

It said $610 for me.  Weird.

 

The bidding has gone nuts. It's like Pebble Beach. 

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
3/18/21 8:57 p.m.

I have no problem storing everything for a few months as long as it's paid for. The Golf will sit outside, but I promise that won't make it any worse than it already is. 

stanger_mussle (Forum Supporter)
stanger_mussle (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
3/18/21 8:58 p.m.

In reply to David S. Wallens :

Well, the car does have documented racing provenance laugh

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
3/18/21 9:11 p.m.
Tom Suddard said:

I have no problem storing everything for a few months as long as it's paid for. The Golf will sit outside, but I promise that won't make it any worse than it already is. 

 

Wait, there's a Golf?

*bids $3000*

 

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
3/18/21 9:17 p.m.

Of course there's a Golf! It's included in the sale. 

captdownshift (Forum Supporter)
captdownshift (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
3/18/21 9:38 p.m.

With snowflakes and mk2 fender flares. surprise

sleepyhead the buffalo
sleepyhead the buffalo Mod Squad
3/19/21 2:54 a.m.
Tom Suddard said:

I have no problem storing everything for a few months as long as it's paid for. The Golf will sit outside, but I promise that won't make it any worse than it already is

@TomSuddard on Instagram

No, you can't save it: It's too rusty.

Serious question:  does it have enough frame to be considered "OEM equivalent section" for challenge purposes? (#askingforafriend) 

Honsch
Honsch Reader
3/19/21 4:32 a.m.
Pete. (l33t FS) said:

I have an Audi 5 cylinder engine/016 transmission/Quantum Syncro rearend that needs to be in a Fox.

Just so you don't feel too bad, a five cylinder engine won't fit.  An ABA has about an inch of extra clearance.

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
3/19/21 7:48 a.m.

In reply to sleepyhead the buffalo :

I think so? I haven't looked it over that closely. I think it's perfectly safe to drive, but there are holes in the tailgate and quarter panels. 

Tim Suddard
Tim Suddard Publisher
3/19/21 8:06 a.m.

Not sure about other states, but it is not hard to get a title on a car older than 25 years old in Florida.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
3/19/21 9:34 a.m.
Honsch said:
Pete. (l33t FS) said:

I have an Audi 5 cylinder engine/016 transmission/Quantum Syncro rearend that needs to be in a Fox.

Just so you don't feel too bad, a five cylinder engine won't fit.  An ABA has about an inch of extra clearance.

One of my friends did it in a '77 Fox.

He did not want to extend the nose, I have no such qualms.  He also did not want to use hood pins.  It was very tight.

sleepyhead the buffalo
sleepyhead the buffalo Mod Squad
3/19/21 10:36 a.m.
Tom Suddard said:

In reply to sleepyhead the buffalo :

I think so? I haven't looked it over that closely. I think it's perfectly safe to drive, but there are holes in the tailgate and quarter panels. 

so, with what I have in mind... those aren't much of an issue, potentially beneficial (why you ruin klassik!?).  although, I'm not super interested in the Fox.  Also... I probably can't take delivery of anything until... probably August 5th-ish.  so, if somebody wants the Fox, and is keen to offload the Golf.  I might be your Buffalo.

noddaz
noddaz GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
3/19/21 10:52 a.m.

$968 currently...

BTW, no insult intended but did the car ever actually finish a race?

(Psst, here is your chance to slap me down and pontificate about the car.)

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
3/19/21 10:58 a.m.

I guess that depends on how you define "finish." If you're referring to finishing the race at the same time as the other cars, the answer is no. But it beat most of the other cars to the trailer! 

noddaz
noddaz GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
3/19/21 3:29 p.m.
Tom Suddard said:

I guess that depends on how you define "finish." If you're referring to finishing the race at the same time as the other cars, the answer is no. But it beat most of the other cars to the trailer! 

Great answer!  

captdownshift (Forum Supporter)
captdownshift (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
3/22/21 3:06 p.m.

Get back up there...

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
3/22/21 3:11 p.m.

Link to the eBay auction, now conveniently added to page 2

$1,050 current high bid with 3d 4h to go

DeadSkunk  (Warren)
DeadSkunk (Warren) PowerDork
3/22/21 3:59 p.m.

In reply to John Welsh :

Lots of room left for someone to get it for less than $2K and show up at the Challenge. laugh

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
3/23/21 10:16 a.m.

Still at $1050! Somebody is going to get an amazing deal.

Robbie (Forum Supporter)
Robbie (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/23/21 11:15 a.m.
Tom Suddard said:

Still at $1050! Somebody is going to get an amazing deal.

oh, I'm watching

chandler
chandler UltimaDork
3/23/21 12:50 p.m.

Iconic?

Marjorie Suddard
Marjorie Suddard General Manager
3/23/21 12:56 p.m.

I mean, Freddie Krueger is iconic...

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