That fitment guide they have is handy(especially for someone that has no clue how to size tires) :-) It's a great starting point.
Are Porsche Lobster Claw wheels timeless beauties or ugly abominations that should be banished to the back of the garage?
Doesn’t matter how they look: They’re heavy and a bit too narrow up front.
Even though our Porsche 997 wore fresh Bridgestone Potenza Sport tires on those Lobster Claws, we knew we could do better.
Our ideal wheel-and-tire setup: one that makes this car safe and fun for an occasional track day without ruining the ride quality. Oh, and we wanted to keep the looks on the subdued side.
While we don’t have any plans to make this 911 into a dedicated track car, our initial testing at The FIRM on the stock-size tires did reveal some limitations. As expected, the Porsche simply pushed too much.
Lots of companies offer wheels for Porsches. We’ve been very happy with the Apex wheels on our E46-chassis BMW M3: They’re lightweight and offer timeless looks as well as motorsports-friendly sizes. So we revisited the brand.
Apex also offers a rather uncommon 50% replacement program. While most wheel companies won’t warranty anything used on the track, Apex will replace a damaged wheel for any reason for up to two years after purchase.
The brand offers a variety of flow-formed and fully forged motorsport-oriented wheel designs that are engineered specifically for each Porsche chassis, including center-lock applications.
So, what size wheels for our Porsche 997?
Instead of guessing and hoping for the best, we talked to Apex and consulted the company’s fitment guides for the Porsche.
The details on our stock Lobster Claws:
Based on Apex’s experience, the company offered three options that would deliver more grip within the factory fenders.
18-inch Option 1
18-inch Option 2
19-inch Option
What about going wider in the rear? Another note from Apex: The brand also sells 12-inch-wide rear wheels in both 18- and 19-inch diameters for the 997 chassis, offering hardcore track enthusiasts and racers with maximum sidewall support.
After digesting all the options for our Porsche, we decided that switching from 19s to 18s would (hopefully) add some sidewall compliance–and thus comfort–to offset the move to a more track-focused tire. We also saw the move opening up tire options for our car.
We chose the Apex SM-10, a flow-formed model, in a classic silver finish: 18x8.5-inch fronts and 18x11-inch rears. The fronts currently retail for $434 each and the rears for $484 each, but we’ve seen Apex offer sale prices.
Image courtesy Apex Race Parts
The SM-10 delivers several motorsports-friendly features, including massive brake clearance, ample room around the lugs, and a knurled inner bead to keep tires from rotating on the rim.
These wheels also come hub-centric for our application, while the I-beam spokes help save weight and increase strength. The inner lip is reinforced for strength–a benefit of the flow-forming process. Apex also notes that these wheels carry JWL and VIA certification. And finally, they’ll accept the stock center cap.
Tires for Our Porsche 997
Now we needed tires–something appropriate for a day of lapping or autocross as well as the drive there. Today’s crop of 200tw tires seemed to fit that bill, with the fast and composed new Bridgestone Potenza RE-71RS sounding perfect for the mission.
Our own testing has shown that it’s a clear standout in today’s 200tw market.
[200-treadwear tire test | Bridgestone Potenza RE-71RS vs. Falken Azenis RT660]
For sizes, we followed Apex’s advice: 245/40R18 fronts and 295/35R18 rears. (To save you from scrolling to the top of the page, we started with 235/35R19 fronts and 295/30R19 rears.) The new Bridgestones cost about $250 for the fronts and $373 for the rears.
Despite the tire’s track-focused nature, we’ve found the Bridgestone RE-71RS to be surprisingly street-friendly–and perhaps some of that is thanks to the move from 19- to 18-inch sizes.
By installing wider front wheels along with sportier tires, we’ve increased our front-end grip, removed understeer and achieved sharper turn-in. Tire Rack’s reviewers have voiced similar findings with this tire.
We also shaved some rotational mass, improving acceleration, braking and handling. Going to the more aggressive package added only a pound to each front corner while shaving 5 from the rears:
The new setup is a winner on the street, but what about on track? We’ll have an update soon. Once we upgrade our brake pads, do a service and add some protection to our perfect original paint, we’ll be back out on track to give you a full report.
That fitment guide they have is handy(especially for someone that has no clue how to size tires) :-) It's a great starting point.
Not sure why you didn't go with the widest wheel possible for track use? I'm personally using the Apex wheels in 9" front, 12" rear on my 996tt, very happy with them and they fit perfectly without rubbing.
In reply to docwyte :
Trying real hard to keep this car truly streetable. The goal is to drive 500 miles comfortably to an event, do that event and then drive home. If I did drive, I would have to live with the track tires and wheels on the road. Took a 200 miles trip last week and they were fine for street use.
In reply to kaybat :
I thought it was pretty handy too.
I'm running the 9x18" and 10x18" SM-10 on my Cayman with 245/40/18 F and 275/40/18 R tires. One word of caution. The Apex wheels have less offset than the stock wheels. After I added the GT3 arms and 16mm of shims my wheels wound up with a bit of poke. Thankfully they don't rub.
In reply to Tim Suddard :
Ok, but I still don't see how the wider wheels impact that? Like I mentioned, they fit my car perfectly fine, with no rubbing at all.
In reply to docwyte :
If they went with the 12 inch rear, they would just maintain the rear-biased grip they were trying to correct, and the 9 inch fronts require 2 degrees of negative camber to not rub which is going to eat tires. Their pick seems like a good compromise between practical and performance.
docwyte said:In reply to Tim Suddard :
Ok, but I still don't see how the wider wheels impact that? Like I mentioned, they fit my car perfectly fine, with no rubbing at all.
Wider wheels means more tramlining, which could be a pain on the street, and possibly a slimmer selection of street-friendly tires.
(Wouldn't stop me though, I like wide tires and I cannot lie 
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I run the same width tires on 8, 8.5 and 9" wheels, same with the 11's and 12's. Will a 245 tramline more on a 9" wheel vs a 8.5"? Kinda doubt it. Will a 9" wheel need 2 degrees of negative camber to fit? Maybe, I run way more than that and can't say I see any aggressive tire wear on my car. That being said, it's not a daily driver, so isn't seeing 10-15k miles a year. My front tires do have close to 10k total miles on them tho and they're not all chewed up by camber wear.
New wheels are better looking than the lobster claws.
Apex is a fabulous vendor! I guess I need to get a Porsche so I can continue to support them :)
350z247 said:In reply to docwyte :
If they went with the 12 inch rear, they would just maintain the rear-biased grip they were trying to correct, and the 9 inch fronts require 2 degrees of negative camber to not rub which is going to eat tires. Their pick seems like a good compromise between practical and performance.
Toe eats tires far more than camber.
I loved Lobster Claws, but I think that the designe has aged out.
I've had a couple of sets of these 911 wheels on my Caymans. I forget what they are called, but I think that they are 996 wheels and they're not too hard to find. Sure, they're a little boring, but I like five spoke wheels and they're easy to clean.
I'm pretty sure that they were made for Porsche by Ronal.
In reply to Tim Suddard :
I did a 300 mile round trip in my Bridgestone RE 71rs on my 2018 BMW F80 M3 to MPACT East a PoconoRaceway and back home. I was going to swap out my street tires ( Michelin PS) but ran over a steel plate in roadworks coming from work. I can attest they are a great street tire, and very responsive on track.
Funny. I have the sm10s on my b5s4 and I've been looking at running lobster claws next.
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