Maybe I missed it, but why did you replace the track pads when you still had >1/2 the pad left? Was it just the knockback?
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Have we found it? Have we finally discovered the one brake pad that can do it all? The one pad that works great whether you’re getting groceries or grabbing apexes? That isn’t noisy or dusty, doesn’t fade, doesn’t eat rotors and lasts for years on end?
Haha, no. Come on, man.
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Maybe I missed it, but why did you replace the track pads when you still had >1/2 the pad left? Was it just the knockback?
well, as expected :)
While I'm owning Miata ND and 2 front original rotors cost me $80, I don't care about rotors that much. I use track pads during "track seasons" and switch back to organic pads in winters
It would be nice to see a review of different manufacturers like you do tires. Porterfield and Gloc have decent pads that are very capable for several environments.
I have had good luck using Hawk HT-10s as a dual duty pad on my 03 Cooper TT car. I found Brembo front rotors on sale at Rock Auto for $20 each. Snatched up a couple sets. Still on my first set with zero issues. The Brembos wear better than the OEM rotors. Lastly, the HT-10s work decently in the cold.
Thanks JG. Echo the other reader on desire to see multiple manufacturers. I've switched to Cobalt pads and am pretty impressed. Most track pads are borderline dangerous on the street when not warmed up but these things bite nicely when cold. I've been burned by skipping bed in on hawk pads, they do not work well unless carefully bed in. I had made a bunch of other changes and showed up to the track thinking of everything besides bed in it seems. Cobalt advertises no bed in required and lived up to the promise. The only complaint is they are so grabby that its making heel and toe trickier as they require a more delicate foot on the pedal. One more, they did not provide the anti-rotation pin for my Mazda rear brake pad backing plate to keep the piston from spinning which was an issue. I put a screw in there to take care of that. I almost feel like I am revealing a secret here. They seem to change the game. Still a bit early, but rotor wear looks minimal. Eddie at Cobalt is a really nice guy and helpful with applications questions.
BA5 said:Maybe I missed it, but why did you replace the track pads when you still had >1/2 the pad left? Was it just the knockback?
Yeah the knockback was annoying, so we run the important stuff with freshies and hang on to the half-used pads for spares/warmup sessions.
I run a Lotus Elise very hard on track and it is my daily driver. I have had the car 18 years and have tried MANY brake pads. The only pad I found that is great on both the street and track is Cobalt! Also, they were fantastic to work with to get the pad I really needed. They say they are for off road use only but as the post above said, they bite great on the street when cold.
On my BMW I run Carbotech 10s on the front and 8s in the rear 24/7. DD/track/autox. Stone cold light application will squeak. Just step a little bit harder. Good bite cold. Rotors are cheap. Dusty but does not turn to concrete when wet. Please test more brands of pads.
Did you swap the pads at the track? I've been wondering if the 1-2 hour drive to Daytona and Sebring is what's causing my accelerated rotor wear despite using dedicated track and street pads. (I also used the swap-it-and-send-it method.)
I use Carbotech AX6 pads to daily and autocross. They're a compound specifically designed for autocross. They are nearly silent (at least on my car), work well from cold, and dust like an Oklahoma windstorm.
They will eat rotors in daily use, about two sets per set of pads, so I bought cryo treated fronts the last time I did brakes. Sure, rotors are cheap, but I would prefer to avoid having to take the time to replace them as often.
I put a set of the Porsche air deflectors on my lower control arms, increased my wheels to 17 inches to allow for more airflow, and they worked fine at the last GRM track day. 2800 pounds and a front rotor that's barely ten inches is asking a lot, but they held up fine with the increased air cooling. I had to bleed the fronts during the lunch break at last year's event.
I'm doing a track day at the Speedway next month. I'm installing all new calipers, brake hoses, wheel studs, and will switch the fronts to a true track pad.
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