Is the 2022 Subaru BRZ faster than the original? | Track test + technical review | Video

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Fch6-FpTOS0

Is the new 2022 Subaru BRZ (and, by extension, the Toyota 86) an improvement over the previous generation, or is it the same performance package with a new face?

We looked under the hood and pushed it at the test track to find out.

pimpm3 (Forum Supporter)
pimpm3 (Forum Supporter) UberDork
1/27/22 9:20 p.m.

I agree that the time difference between the CTR was suprising.

Kyngfish
Kyngfish New Reader
1/27/22 9:25 p.m.

Is the Grand Canyon "superfluous"? The Mona Lisa? laugh

bmw88rider
bmw88rider GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
1/27/22 10:33 p.m.

If you want to test a manual at COTA, let me know. You featured one of my other cars in the past, Atomic Betty, And I'm more than happy to toss you the keys for a proper test of the manual BRZ. 

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
1/28/22 8:57 a.m.

Was the 2020s on Primacy's vs the 2022 being on the stickier Limited tires? 

BillKeksz
BillKeksz New Reader
1/28/22 3:02 p.m.

How much is due to tire differences? IIRC, the old car had economy tires, the new has performance tires.

jh36
jh36 Dork
1/28/22 3:22 p.m.

Thanks Chris and JG. I just picked up a manual GR8 this week.  I haven't had the chance to do the track test but everything you are experiencing jives with my brief acquaintance with the car. I'm looking forward to putting it on track to get a true sense of the capabilities. 
Nice video. 

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
1/28/22 5:23 p.m.
BillKeksz said:

How much is due to tire differences? IIRC, the old car had economy tires, the new has performance tires.

The lower trim of the both new cars still has 17s and Primacy's. The Premium GR and Limited BRZ get the 18s and stickier tires. Hence my question just above yours. 

The BRZ also has aluminum knucked vs the previous gen for both and current gen GR. But I can't imagine that big of difference from the small weight difference. 

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
1/28/22 8:53 p.m.

The 2020 car we tested was on significantly crappier tires, but look at the data again: The cornering speeds aren't dramatically different. The real separation comes under power. Yeah there's spots where better exits lead to better straightaway speeds, but the acceleration graphs of the new car are consistently much steeper than the old car. 

Nitroracer (Forum Supporter)
Nitroracer (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
1/29/22 9:41 p.m.
pimpm3 (Forum Supporter) said:

I agree that the time difference between the CTR was suprising.

I was thinking I would hear Civic Si, but then I was a bit surprised as well.

jh36
jh36 Dork
2/12/22 7:34 a.m.

Chiming back in. I have crossed the 2500 mile mark. The car is quicker and even more capable than I originally thought. I am also able to bring on oversteer more easily due to increased power and torque and throttle steering is a breeze. It is very well balanced with a firm/not harsh ride. 
I don't need to wind it all the way up but it gets up in the revs quickly so that's starting to be a regular thing. 
The little issue i had with 5-6 quick shifts is gone so I am chaulking that up to getting my personal geometry down. 
It is a 10 for what i wanted and I like the way it looks too.  
 

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