as heavy or heavier than an F150, depending on the trim. maybe the next generation will be the same weight as the F250
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An electrified future doesn’t have to be all doom and gloom, right? Just look at the freshly unveiled 2025 BMW M5.
Sure, it’s a hybrid, but consider that both the 2025 M5 and outgoing M5 are both powered by a twin-turbo V8 rated at nearly identical power outputs: 577 horsepower and 553 lb.-ft. of torque for the new car (without the hybrid system), and 600 horsepower and 553 lb.-ft. of torque for the old car.
Add an electric motor into the mix, and, suddenly, the new M5 is capable of 717 horsepower and 738 lb.-ft. of torque. We won’t say no to roughly 200 additional horses and 200 extra torques.
Oh, and that’s not including the fact that the new M5 can drive 25 miles on pure electricity–enough to drive from GRM World HQ to Daytona International Speedway and back, and still have some electricity left over.
Of course, the hybrid powertrain does add a bit of heft. The new M5 weighs 5390 pounds, which is 1000 pounds heavier than the outgoing model. The sprint to 60 mph is also slower, too: 3.4 seconds vs. 3.2 seconds.
Will most buyers notice the added weight or the slower zero-to-60 time? We’re not certain, but if an electrified future means having the ability to add significant power gains by slapping on an electric motor or two, that’s something to get excited about, right?
BMW plans to launch the new M5 worldwide in the fourth quarter of 2024, with a starting MSRP of $119,500 here in the U.S.
as heavy or heavier than an F150, depending on the trim. maybe the next generation will be the same weight as the F250
You buried the lede-- available as a wagon!
Karacticus said:You buried the lede-- available as a wagon!
Hmm ... no mention of the M5 Touring in the most recent release from BMW. Interesting. I guess they'll keep us waiting on that.
gixxeropa said:as heavy or heavier than an F150, depending on the trim. maybe the next generation will be the same weight as the F250
For those who may be wondering (or not), the M5 shares the same basic hybrid architecture as the XM. The M5 has a smaller battery, as well as different gear ratios and final drive. I wouldn't be surprised to see more M cars come with hybrid powertrains.
When I've driven the XM on mountain back roads and in the desert, and it felt incredibly car-like for its size. If they transfer that over to the M5, then it should be amazing. However, when you put vehicles on track, it puts weight truly to the test.
J.A. Ackley said:gixxeropa said:as heavy or heavier than an F150, depending on the trim. maybe the next generation will be the same weight as the F250
For those who may be wondering (or not), the M5 shares the same basic hybrid architecture as the XM. The M5 has a smaller battery, as well as different gear ratios and final drive. I wouldn't be surprised to see more M cars come with hybrid powertrains.
When I've driven the XM on mountain back roads and in the desert, and it felt incredibly car-like for its size. If they transfer that over to the M5, then it should be amazing. However, when you put vehicles on track, it puts weight truly to the test.
Having followed an X5M around a track, BMW can make that kind of weight work there too, at least for as long as you can keep tires underneath it.
This thing weighs 1,000 pounds more than a body-on-frame, iron V8, solid rear axle Buick Roadmaster station wagon. What the hell is BMW doing?
J.A. Ackley said:Karacticus said:You buried the lede-- available as a wagon!
Hmm ... no mention of the M5 Touring in the most recent release from BMW. Interesting. I guess they'll keep us waiting on that.
Odd that it wasn't included in the press release, but we did cover news of the M5 Touring back in April:
Wagon lovers rejoice: BMW to bring the M5 Touring to America
maschinenbau said:This thing weighs 1,000 pounds more than a body-on-frame, iron V8, solid rear axle Buick Roadmaster station wagon. What the hell is BMW doing?
Three reasons. One, it's an EV. Two, it has a hell of a lot more stuff in it than that Roadmaster (tech, safety, luxury, etc). And third, it's an EV.
I don't care how fast it is I just can't get remotely excited about a 5400lb anything that doesn't tow stuff for it's living. I just can't. I know vehicle dynamics. I understand that with power, tires, brakes, and engineering it can be just as fast as something more appropriately weighted.
The cost of consumables on that car must be astonishing.
Eh, it's not really an EV though. 25 miles of all-electric range means it isn't dragging around a giant heavy battery compared to something like an Ionic 5 N or a Model S Plaid. Heck, this thing is like 600 pounds HEAVIER than the Tesla.
Maybe BMW took inspiration from Nissan and just shoved extra parts and metal everywhere? It's baffling.
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