F8X BMW: All you need to know to go fast with one

J.A.
By J.A. Ackley
Jan 8, 2025 | BMW, BMW M3, BMW M4, BMW F8X | Posted in Buyer's Guides | Never miss an article

Photograph Courtesy BMW

Why an F8X BMW? This chassis–sold as the 2014-2019 BMW M3 and 2014-2020 BMW M4 in the U.S.–is the ultimate platform for going fast, says BimmerWorld’s Phil Wurz. Autocross? No problem? Tracking? No problem. Drag racing? Yes, it can even do that, too.

It’s why BimmerWorld based its wild GTMore build on an F82 M4.


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Colin Wood
Colin Wood Associate Editor
9/18/24 8:57 a.m.

Okay, so maybe I'm not of totally sound mind, but this doesn't sound totally unreasonable:

Obviously, even cheaper models can be had for less if you are comfortable with more miles on the clock.

Chris Tropea
Chris Tropea Associate Editor
9/18/24 9:10 a.m.

In reply to Colin Wood :

I also might not be of sound mind but wow that is a lot of car for the money. 

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
9/18/24 9:32 a.m.

The F8X cars are super rad. Basically our 435i, but with every compromise not only solved, but solved with a fairly massive upgrade. The N55 is reliable and torquey, but the turbo is basically a spinning restrictor plate and getting more power out of it has proven difficult. But the S55 has TONS of headspace and it's already underrated as are more BMW turbo engines. And at under $40k they're a steal (although we all know that the buy-in on the BMW is only the first part of the adventure with the wallet).

theruleslawyer
theruleslawyer Reader
9/18/24 9:44 a.m.

I loved my f82. Pads, fluids and camber plates and you have a very track capable car. The base is the right place to start if you plan on changing suspension. The EDC suspension is the major upgrade and you'll be tossing it. Most of the CS difference is easy obtained too. Same EDC, different tune. Easy to flash. IIRC they use a different front bar (from the base) that is easy to swap out. If you have a DCT and track it, consider a 1L overfill on the transmission. You won't notice it as a novice, but as you get faster you'll have the shifts slow down and eventually get a trans overtemp warning. 1L overfill solves that for the most part.

The Achellies heel is the seats. They are great seats, but the moment you consider harnesses you find out that they are incompatible. No harness holes. No posts that are compatible with something like a quickfit. Only the f80 has a harness bar. That means getting into harnesses is a very expensive proposition on this car.

If you're worried you're buying someone's track car, look at the brake color. They turn greenish with heat.

dangerdanbradbury
dangerdanbradbury New Reader
11/27/24 1:13 p.m.

I picked up an f80 recently, 6mt, bone stock, but am wondering if I should sell it. The achilles heel, to me, is how it feels in the switchbacks going through the appalachians. Dead steering, little to no feedback. Motor is great, pulls great, super quiet (also a downside to me), brakes solid. But the steering feel might be the pitfall.

$35k if anyone is interested lol, 94k miles and decent carfax history.

Allan
Allan New Reader
12/16/24 4:16 p.m.

Regarding the seat issue for those who want to run Quickfit harnesses.  All the F22/F23 cars (228/235 then 230/240, and the original M2s) had traditional style seats with the 2-post headrest that works with Quickfits.  These will bolt right in to the 3- and 4-series.  Many have the indestructible sensatech upholstery, and a few are even manual-adjustable and thus a lot lighter.  There are a lot of 2-owners who would love to trade for the more modern-looking one-piece seats if you are seeking a cheaper alternative to aftermarket seats.  If you swap your original seat module into them they don't even need recoding.

roninsoldier83
roninsoldier83 GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
12/17/24 12:01 p.m.

In reply to dangerdanbradbury :

I haven't driven the F80, but I own an F87 M2 and the steering feel, for an EPS rack, is actually pretty decent. Not as much feedback as the old hydraulic racks, but honestly, for an EPS car, it's pretty good. 

I've read in reviews that the F87 steering feel is better than the F80 M3's steering feel. Again, I've never driven the F80, but that seems to be the general consensus from all the comparisons I've stumbled across. If you like everything else about the car and are okay with a 2-door coupe, maybe give the M2 a try? If you want to keep the S55 engine, they do make the M2 Competition. 

Just a thought. 

F87Daily
F87Daily GRM+ Memberand New Reader
1/8/25 1:37 p.m.

It warms my heart to read this about the F8X. I have an F87 M2 with minor brake upgrades, camber plates, and 18x10 wheels with 200 treadwear tires. It is an absolute blast on track for such a minimal setup required. In some cases, I can even chase down Cayman GT4s with average drivers in Advanced/Instructor run groups. The only thing I wish it had was a better steering feel. I tried a track-prepped NC Miata, and wow, you can feel the grit of the pavement through the wheel and place the car exactly where you want it with ease. I also daily my F87 (with street pads and street wheels/tires), and there is no compromise. One thing that I love about the 2016-2018 M2 is the brake calipers, they are top load Brembos. So two pins, and you can swap the pads. I arrive at the track and can swap on my track wheels (which fit in the back seat) and track brake pads within 30 minutes.

Lastly, and most controversial, The F87 is my first track car with an automatic. I've gone through S2000, E9X, Corvette, Porsche... all with manual. And wow the DCT is so good, I'm not sure I can go back. It's not as good as a PDK, but it's darn close. And still engaging to drive on the street!

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