We live in a world of constant bombardment with messages touting the latest hotness: better, longer-lasting, more comfortable. But there’s security in the familiar, and change does not come easily for many of us. Recall that comfortable pair of sneakers your spouse keeps trying to replace or that sweatshirt you still wear a decade later–or even the tires you take to the track.
The Toyo Proxes R888R and the Nitto NT01 remain favorites among brand-loyal fans who continue to use them on both the track and the street, despite the Nitto offering closing in on its 20th birthday. Read any motorsports forum and you’ll find current recommendations for them. Both tires sport a 100tw rating to indicate their original intended use as sticky track day tires.
But what about those track day junkies who’d like a bit more speed? Enter Toyo’s Proxes RR, another popular choice in this venue. Originally introduced in 2012, these carry a 40tw rating and are billed as not streetable, with only a hint of tread pattern and a thinner belt package offering less puncture resistance.
In fact, these wear a Not Intended for Public Roads warning right on the sidewall. Yet like the other two, they’ve found a home with those heading to non-competitive track days.
To bracket our test, we added a modern 200tw tire, the 2023 Nankang Sportnex CR-S. This has become one of the benchmarks for streetable track day tires thanks to its superior blend of pace, consistency and longevity.
[Tested: How does the new Nankang Sportnex CR-S compare?]
When it comes to treadwear rating, is 200 the new 100? Let’s find out.
Each set of tires–all wearing the 235/40R17 size and wrapped around 17x9-inch Kogeki wheels from Flyin’ Miata–was mounted on our ND-chassis Miata and given an initial heat cycle with a 45-mile round trip to Harris Hill Raceway and six laps of increasing intensity. This helped cure the rubber and prepare it for hard track use. Along the way, we took note of the subjective street qualities of each.
Test day dawned hot with full sun, so the track temps rose quickly. With ambients in the 90s, we kept our test tires in the cool confines of our motor home before use to give them the best shot at good laps before heat soak. Still, the hot track cooked our rubber pretty quickly.
From left to right: Toyo Proxes R888R, Nitto NT01, Toyo Proxes RR. Photography Credit: Andy Hollis
Nankang Sportnex CR-S 2023
Toyo Proxes RR
Nitto NT01
Toyo Proxes R888R
Nankang CR-S 2023 (retest)
Don’t let the 100tw label on the NT01 and R888R fool you: These are street tires with very much the same type of design philosophy as today’s new high-tech 200tw tires. They’ll deliver lots of fun laps and still get you home from a track day.
Both are also the value buys out of this group of tires, retailing for about $240 to $255 each in our 235/40R17 test size; the Nankang goes for closer to $275 apiece. Laps per dollar? These two from Nitto and Toyo could be your bogey–and then factor in Toyo’s generous NASA contingency and support. (NASA Time Trial rules, by the way, favor those who run these two tires over the latest from the Super 200 class.)
As for the Toyo RR, it’s a great track day tire with consistent performance and long life. You’ll pay a little more for that, though, with our size selling for close to $290 each. What did we learn today? Again, there’s a tire for nearly any situation, including those looking for enduring track tires.
Is the writeup on the NT01 missing? I see it in a few spots, but it wasn't pulled into it's own header.
The difference in pace between the RR and NT01 is great to see in as controlled an environment as realistically possible.
Geez, a full second between the Toyo RR and the NT01. I'm almost done with the NT01's I current have, I need to see if the Toyo's are made in the sizes I need...
I have used many sets of R888Rs for HPDE the last few years...last two events I used Yokohama A052s which were a few tenths under three seconds faster than previous bests at both WG and VIR.
Maybe time to test the Super 200s against the supposedly faster tires.
ShiftLess said:Maybe time to test the Super 200s against the supposedly faster tires.
What exactly are you asking for here?
The Super 200 pointy end is a 3-way tie between A052, RE71-RS and CRS V2...each able to produce similar single lap TT pace, but with a range of different personalities and heat characteristics.
The only thing faster are certain r-comps (A7, R7, A055) and a pair of 100-tw tires (GY SC3R and Trofeo R).
All of this is reflected under the "Pace" column in the chart here: https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/track-tire-buyers-guide/
Andy Hollis said:The only thing faster are certain r-comps (A7, R7, A055) and a pair of 100-tw tires (GY SC3R and Trofeo R).
What about the Michelin Cup 2 Rs? Or are those too limited in size availability to be able to compare?
codrus (Forum Supporter) said:Andy Hollis said:The only thing faster are certain r-comps (A7, R7, A055) and a pair of 100-tw tires (GY SC3R and Trofeo R).
What about the Michelin Cup 2 Rs? Or are those too limited in size availability to be able to compare?
Yes. Not to mention the OE-specific versions. Much like the Trofeo R, in that regard.
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