Scott M
Scott M New Reader
1/19/24 6:51 p.m.

Hey everyone, quick question: the current rule states this: "Over budget entries may use pro drivers for instruction, but these runs will not be scored."

 

Just for clarification:

A) Does this mean that the pro driver run counts as one run for the car, but is NOT scored,

OR

B) Does it mean that the pro driver run doesn't count against the car in addition to it not being scored?

 

In other words, if I let a pro driver have a run, does that count as one of my runs in addition to not being scored?

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/27/24 4:40 p.m.

May be a new rule (being in green suggests that it is), in previous years pro driver runs were the same for over-budget and under-budget cars. It's not clear to me whether A or B is true either...

Floating Doc (Forum Supporter)
Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
1/27/24 7:46 p.m.

My opinion is to follow the rule for all of the autocross events I've attended. Instructor driven runs do not count against your total.

 

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Publisher
1/27/24 7:57 p.m.
Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) said:

My opinion is to follow the rule for all of the autocross events I've attended. Instructor driven runs do not count against your total.

 

This is correct. Option B. 

Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/27/24 8:25 p.m.

In reply to Tom Suddard :

I assume the starter would let the timing team know?  Is there a preference for pro runs to be done after all counted runs are finished?

AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter)
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/31/24 9:52 a.m.
Tom Suddard said:
Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) said:

My opinion is to follow the rule for all of the autocross events I've attended. Instructor driven runs do not count against your total.

 

This is correct. Option B. 

"do not count against your total."  so an over-budget car kinda gets unlimited runs as long as there's a pro driver at the wheel?  seems like a good opportunity for an under-budget driver to get some recon time in the passenger seat.

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Publisher
1/31/24 10:23 a.m.

If you ask for more than one or two runs the pro drivers are going to say something like "dude, I've got tables. Cheap, fast tables."

Scott M
Scott M New Reader
1/31/24 2:13 p.m.

So it looks like most folks are leaning toward Option B, something like this:

  • The Pro Driver run for an over-budget car:
    • does NOT count against the car
    • is NOT scored for the car
    • is limited to some number of maximum runs (e.g. 2 Pro Driver runs max per car)

Can we get someone to weigh in on this in an official capacity?

I'm good with whatever, I just want to make sure I understand so I don't throw one of my runs away by accident :)

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Publisher
1/31/24 2:24 p.m.

This is official. Limit subject to change based on pro driver availability. Their focus will be on under-budget cars.

  • The Pro Driver run for an over-budget car:
    • does NOT count against the car
    • is NOT scored for the car
    • is limited to some number of maximum runs (e.g. 2 Pro Driver runs max per car)
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter)
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/31/24 4:20 p.m.

If there's a passenger seat and proper belts, are passengers allowed in the autocross?  specifically asking about $2000 cars.

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Publisher
1/31/24 5:21 p.m.

Yes, here's the relevant passage of the rules:

All drivers shall have a valid state-issued driver’s license and be at least 16 years of age. All passengers shall be at least 16 years of age. Only one passenger per run will be allowed. Passengers are not allowed during drag runs faster than 14.0 seconds. All drivers shall wear a GRM-issued driver wristband for the duration of the competition.

Scott M
Scott M New Reader
2/3/24 11:43 p.m.

In reply to Tom Suddard :

Thank you, Sir!

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