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EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/27/12 7:50 p.m.

I have seen the bolt-on hangers, I would still have the problem of the exhaust shape being less than ideal for what I want. I'll figure it out...just need to get it running first.

One of these days I will pony up and buy a welder. Right now the wiring in my garage probably wouldn't handle it too well.

wae
wae New Reader
2/27/12 10:18 p.m.
EvanB wrote: I've got plenty of piping to bolt up...the problem is the hangers aren't in the right place. Guess I'll have to take it to the exhaust shop with my selection of exhausts and have them weld some hangers to it...or I could buy a flux core welder and attempt to make something myself. Although a flux-core mig won't weld stainless will it?

On the Neon, I was having all sorts of "exhaust falling off" problems in 2010, but for 2011, I used a combination of U-bolt clamps, metal hangers (Walker 36272), and big sheet metal screws to secure the various exhaust bits to the underside of the car. The car had a ton of problems, no doubt, but the exhaust stayed on and stayed put. I used some flex between the turbo and the first straight pipe, and I had the muffler itself on a universal rubber hanger, but the rest of the piping was mounted solidly to the underside of the car to the point that I could pull myself up off the ground with it.

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/27/12 10:37 p.m.

Interesting. I would have to put a flex pipe in to do that, but I am considering doing that anyway no matter what setup I go with.

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
3/2/12 3:03 p.m.

CxRacing universal intercooler kit came in the mail today from ebay.

Fitted to the car, still working on the piping. This one tucks up in the bumper much better.

And the current state of the exhaust.

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
3/8/12 2:21 p.m.

IT'S ALIVE!

Now to fill it with coolant, hook up the IAC, and make the throttle cable bracket. It also sounds pretty good with the current exhaust, I put the MSM midpipe on it so it has a resonator now.

Keith
Keith GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
3/8/12 2:26 p.m.

Woohoo!

Final report on my parallel project: I drove it to work today, all fancy in matching paint on every panel. Finished. Janel was impressed with the level of scoot, but did complain that it had less torque than the M5. Well, yes...

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
3/8/12 2:46 p.m.

Some more pictures. I still need to do a bit of cleaning up and reoganizing in the engine bay. As well as routing some vacuum lines and hooking up the boost controller.

My center console is slowly disappearing:

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand Dork
3/8/12 7:12 p.m.

I found that industrial cable works well for exhaust hanging in an emergency.

So does a couple lengths of chain attached to all that extra thread on an exhaust clamp. You know the chain won't ever break or stretch, and it's easy to undo if you have to.

cghstang
cghstang HalfDork
3/8/12 7:33 p.m.
Knurled wrote: So does a couple lengths of chain attached to all that extra thread on an exhaust clamp.

Just a couple links though, not enough to snag a timing hose when it comes undone

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
3/8/12 8:04 p.m.

Of course now that I got it running my Volvo gets jealous and cracks the coolant tank while delivering pizza.

Coolant sprayed directly on a hot turbo makes quite a lot of smoke.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand Dork
3/9/12 6:33 a.m.
cghstang wrote:
Knurled wrote: So does a couple lengths of chain attached to all that extra thread on an exhaust clamp.
Just a couple links though, not enough to snag a timing hose when it comes undone

When has that ever happened, except for that one time?

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
3/20/12 7:49 p.m.

Drove it around the block a couple times today...first time I blew one of the couplers off the intercooler piping and remembered that I forgot to tighten them all.

The temperature is reading around 199-203, isn't that a little high? I am going to flush out the cooling system tomorrow and maybe get a new thermostat.

Hopefully with some time spent on Tunerstudio with the autotune I'll have it running better tomorrow.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
3/20/12 10:12 p.m.

That temperature doesn't sound all that bad to me, depending on where it's measuring. At it's hottest, that's perfectly fine.

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
3/21/12 7:13 a.m.

Ok, that's the back of the head so it would be close to the hottest.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
3/21/12 7:52 a.m.
EvanB wrote: Ok, that's the back of the head so it would be close to the hottest.

Do you know what degree t-stat you have in there?

I run a 180 degree tstat in my MX6, and at its hottest point, i still normally see right around 200 degrees on the gauge. (It's just a ProSport, so it might not be accurate.) Will creep a bit higher in traffic.

I'm not sure what the MSM shows in terms of temps, but it always sits a little past halfway.

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
3/21/12 9:23 a.m.

I just checked the factory temp for the thermostat and it is 192deg. I'm just not used to looking at the temperature in degrees and it was near the upper end of the range in tuner studio.

Today I am going to put in the temp sender for the gauge, I think I found the place where it goes, I'll see if coolant comes out when I remove the plug.

Hopefully my intercooler piping holds, I really need to get the pipes rolled on the ends, or find someone to weld a bead on them to hold it better. I am only running about 8psi of boost now so it shouldn't be too much of a problem...hopefully.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
3/21/12 9:38 a.m.
EvanB wrote: I just checked the factory temp for the thermostat and it is 192deg. I'm just not used to looking at the temperature in degrees and it was near the upper end of the range in tuner studio. Today I am going to put in the temp sender for the gauge, I think I found the place where it goes, I'll see if coolant comes out when I remove the plug. Hopefully my intercooler piping holds, I really need to get the pipes rolled on the ends, or find someone to weld a bead on them to hold it better. I am only running about 8psi of boost now so it shouldn't be too much of a problem...hopefully.

I wouldn't worry about the beads until you're running a bit more boost. I never rolled the pipes i cut on the MX6, and they've been pressure tested to 40psi.

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
3/21/12 9:43 a.m.

Well I will probably never be running more than 12psi for the foreseeable future so I will worry about it later.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
3/21/12 10:18 a.m.
EvanB wrote: Well I will probably never be running more than 12psi for the foreseeable future so I will worry about it later.

I actually think the only coupling i've blown off on my car is the throttle body, which is beaded from factory. Once i got a quality coupler on there, the entire setup has been stressed tested at 25psi in real world conditions. No popping.

eastsidemav
eastsidemav HalfDork
3/21/12 1:26 p.m.
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:
EvanB wrote: Well I will probably never be running more than 12psi for the foreseeable future so I will worry about it later.
I actually think the only coupling i've blown off on my car is the throttle body, which is beaded from factory. Once i got a quality coupler on there, the entire setup has been stressed tested at 25psi in real world conditions. No popping.

The rallycrossing might have an effect on that. Bill was popping hoses like crazy before he switch to steel piping, and even after that, I think he was still having problems. Probably due to the car bouncing around in the ruts at Roos. I think he ended up welding some beads to the pipes, but I'm not sure, I just welded the pipes together, didn't add any beads for him initally.

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
3/21/12 2:39 p.m.

Well after a little tightening and readjusting of the clamps I have made it up and down the street a couple times without them popping.

The atmospheric BOV I have is already starting to get a bit annoying...it sure is loud.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
3/21/12 2:47 p.m.

Have you done a boost leak test? You should probably do that.

Loud BOVs get annoying quick. The MX6 isn't bad, but i have it adjusted to not blow off unless it sees over 3psi, so it doesn't do anything until i really boot it, and then it's competing with a wastegate dump anyways.

The Miata... is hugely obnoxious. Tiny turbo = always boosting = always blowing off, and the GFB is LOUD.

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
3/21/12 2:48 p.m.

I have not, how would I do such a test?

Edit: Nevermind, I watched some Australians do it on youtube.

DaveEstey
DaveEstey Dork
3/21/12 3:32 p.m.

Recirculating BOV solves the noise problem.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
3/21/12 3:37 p.m.
DaveEstey wrote: Recirculating BOV solves the noise problem.

Mayyyyybe. Depends on the valve. My MSM is set to recirculate, and it's still one of the loudest valves i've ever heard.

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