Mazdeuce fixes the grosh

Looks great!

Putting those front trusses up gives the inside a sense of size and shape. It's not going to be big enough. I'll be able to make it work, and it will be a damn site better than what I had, but I can already tell that I want to take the 20x40 spot next to the building that I was going to cover and use for extra parking and pour a slab and enclose it and use THAT as the project area. I don't think it's possible to have enough room.

Working from each side like that, how do you plan to flip up the trusses in the middle? Are you going to keep all the trusses together and then space them once you have all of them up?

Saturday was rallycross practice day.
Sunday I was well and truly sick.
Today I started and finished one whole truss. I'll spare you the picture because if I'm doing this right they all look the same.
I can put up two more before I start to run out of room to hang them. After that, I need to hang the last 7 upside down all at once. At that point I can flip and install all but the last five. Those I have to flip up and stack until they're all ready and then move them into position upright. I have a plan. It will make more sense in pictures.

you need one of these

I raised one sort of like that a couple of springs ago. I don't think they help nearly as much as you think they do, and they make the kitchen smell terrible.

Three trusses in two days. Almost. I still need to nail the plates on the second side of one, but still, I'm pretty excited about that. I need more wood, so I'll go get that in the morning and then I should be able to get another one done tomorrow and...... then my youngest has an eye doctor appointment on Thursday and it's scheduled in such a way that it basically kills the whole work day. Then Friday is my delayed Valentines day date with my wife. Then Saturday is the kids science fair thing. Then Sunday is PCA autocross. Dammit.
I still think I could be done building these things next week with a bit of luck.

Bought the rest of the wood for the trusses and to sheet the sides. Hung the four sheets that needed to be hung and put up one more truss.

Every time I get the floor even a little bit clean. CAN WE SKATE!

Nice! I can't skate on my project. That's pretty neat, were they impressed?

I would explain to the skaters that if they picked up the scraps of wood and pushed the broom around, they would have a lot more room to skate.

mazdeuce wrote: Just got a PM from a member who was concerned about a construction detail. He was absolutely correct to be concerned without additional information about the building. It has to do with the 'stacked' walls in the left wall and the potential for a bending moment in the wall.

Glad to see this mentioned. My mind says "there is a big hinge in that left wall". This is why the idea to document a build for all to see, can be such a good one.

The garage progress is looking good. I understand the desire to do it yourself. I have that same desire lots of times but definitely have learned to let some things go.

Example: after watching a crew of seven men arrive, remove and replace the roof shingles on my 1750sf ranch 10 days ago, between a single sunrise and sunset in February.. I knew that I made the right decision to pay for that particular task. Bonus: I hurt quite a bit less.

I'll tell a fun story to keep you on the path of doing it all yourself.

When my parents built their house, they started roughly two weeks ahead of the next door neighbor. The next door guy had hired the best contractor he could find to do it for him. The houses were roughly the same size.

One day, TunaMom was sitting there eating lunch next to the one wall she had up at the time in a light rain, and the contractor pulled up next door. Two guys walk out to the lumber delivery, and bit by bit bring it all behind the house in the woods and leave.

A few hours later, the homeowner arrives and shares the story with TunaMom about how the stupid lumberyard never delivered the lumber. The contractor was then fired and another was hired.

All said, they finished two weeks before my parents did. We would plod along, a truss here, a wall there, some roof sheets per day. Steady and slow. They would literally show up with 15 guys and frame the house in two days and never touch it again for two weeks. Tortoise and the Hare, seriously.

Keep it up.

Thanks Tuna. I could share some stories about shocking incompetence when I've hired people. I don't mind making mistakes myself, but it drives me bonkers when I pay someone to do a job to a lower quality than I'd accept out of myself.
I tried to convince the kids to sweep but they assured me that running over stuff was just fine. Kids.

Three. I have three more trusses to build. I have two hung upside down and one of those can be stood up in place. After than I need to put them up and stack them to have room to get them all up. Next week I'll be done putting them together and if all goes well I'll have them all up in the air. They need to be be blocked and have hurricane ties put on and that will take time, but at least I'll be done with the trusses.

Did this on Sunday instead of working. It was more fun.
Today I find myself with not a whole lot of motivation. I finished putting plates on the second side of the one truss, aligned and attached a couple of trusses up top, flipped one of the hanging trusses into place and cut almost all of the plates that I need for the last three trusses. Actually building a truss today would have gotten me closer to being done, but I just didn't have it in me.

Thats a beautiful car. Looks like its going to have a pretty sweet home soon too. My cars live on the street. I'm jealous of this build lol

I've owned the garage for 13 years and I've only ever put two cars in it. I've spent a lot of time on my back in the dirt right next to the garage. I'm an idiot.

mazdeuce wrote: I've owned the garage for 13 years and I've only ever put two cars in it. I've spent a lot of time on my back in the dirt right next to the garage. I'm an idiot.

Oh yeah. You're a stay at home Dad with cool kids, a Porsche, a rally car, and a Corvette wagon on order. You're clearly doing it wrong.

tuna55 wrote:

mazdeuce wrote: I've owned the garage for 13 years and I've only ever put two cars in it. I've spent a lot of time on my back in the dirt right next to the garage. I'm an idiot.

Oh yeah. You're a stay at home Dad with cool kids, a Porsche, a rally car, and a Corvette wagon on order. You're clearly doing it wrong.

I'm doing OK, I won't argue that, but it's only because my wife is awesome. When left to my own devices the world doesn't work out so well. The garage is a perfect example. It has always been "mine", and it basically rotted and fell in around itself. Every single good thing in my life comes from my wife, I'm just hanging out and trying not to screw it up.

mazdeuce wrote: Every single good thing in my life comes from my wife, I'm just hanging out and trying not to screw it up.

Does she have any sisters?

Seriously though, your work on this shop is amazing. I'm impressed every time I come in here. Can't wait to see the finished project!

The very last truss all laid out right before I started putting in nails.
It's still going to be a bit before I can put the sheeting on the roof. I need hang all of the trusses and block them and install hurricane ties and get the sheeting on the front peak part of the garage and then I can put it on. I'm pretty happy.

OK, so i have no experience designing walls and framing them, and i have no idea what you guys were talking about re. a hinge in the middle of a wall. can someone splain that to me?

Keep up the good work, I'm living viciously through you. The one far off picture made it look super tall until I realized they were your kids for scale and not adults lol

In reply to AngryCorvair:

The far wall goes up 8 feet, then has another 4 foot wall stacked on top of that. This would be fine if the first wall supported a floor or something to take up any lateral load, but as of now, it doesn't. That joint could act like a hinge when I put the roof on and the wall could fold right in half. What you can't see is that the lateral support is in the form of another set of half trusses that will create covered parking on the outside of the garage. Structurally the 4 foot top section will be like the upright of the outside half truss once it's all said and done. In the mean time, I need to keep extra bracing in place to keep the wall from trying to fold. In retrospect, maybe I would do it differently next time, but I think this will be structurally sound when it's all together.

Triangulation FTW