In reply to Indy-Barely Functional-Guy :
Indy,
My friends and I are embarking on the same project as the and we are starting the search for the engine and trans as well.... I'd love to collaborate with you if you don't mind! But it won't let me direct contact you
In reply to wheelsmithy :
That thread on RX8Club is painful. The negativity towards the swapper is almost too much. At the same time the actual information shared by the guy doing the Isuzu swap keeps me reading.
EDIT: Made it to maybe the 13th page and closed the tab.
In reply to pres589 :
Those RX8 guys are vicious!! I only made it to the 5th page. Reading that thread makes me want to add weird piston engines to an RX8 even more.
I remember reading that Isuzu V6 - RX8 thread back when I was looking for Datsaniti's powertrain donor. Poor guy, trying to do something innovative and getting E36 M3 on.
I came very close to buying an Axiom (higher output with direct injection - very advanced for its time). Then the G35 popped up which has a better V6 in every possible way.
I highly recommend finding a G35 donor car. I can walk/talk you through the wiring. It's really not that bad now that I've done it, but you need the whole donor car (body computers) for the engine to start without paying for an ECM tune.
I think a TR4 would be better off with an inline four due to packaging into the car being easier to deal with, and they just kind of seem link they should stay inline four powered. A K24DE seems nice, or maybe something a bit newer like Ford Duratec out of a late Ranger or MX-5. Dark horse Mazda FE out of a first-gen Kia Sportage perhaps?
Re: The RX-8 guy/ Isuzu V-6...
Yeah, those guys are idiots, but the O.P. rocks, and presents great info. I want to do one of those V-6s someday, I mean, 4 bolt mains, TONS of transmission choices, The engine was built by Honda, and they sold millions of them, and they are largely unloved. I understand they react well to boost, also
Back to Indyguy, though. One question: could you go back stock? These cars are valuable. I know its no fun, but they are a great driving experience as delivered.
Any way to drive it again would be excellent. TRs of any sort are great.
Yeah, that Isuzu V6 offers a lot as a swap candidate. I keep thinking mk1 Ford Capri with a W58 would be great, at least on paper.
I have done this swap before, Rover V8 fit's fine and the weight is less than the 4 cylinder so the handling balance is great. I also have the solid axle setup with a T5 and find 1st gear to be worthless. I get lot's of axle windup, have tried to fix it so many times but have not been successful yet (ladder bars, pinon snubber). I will have the body back off the frame early next year and will fix it once and for all. With a cam, revs to 6,500 and sounds amazing, just need to get it rolling first.....
I found a potential donor car. I just got home from looking a 1994 Mustang GT with manual transmission. He's asking $750, but I think I can grab it for $650, maybe 600. It's a convertible, with leaking top, stored outside, so the interior is trashed. Car fired up with a few shots of starting fluid and then ran for several minutes. I was all ready to pay his asking price, until I checked fluids. Oil looks good and normal. open radiator cap and there is brown, rust colored foam. I'm not entirely conviced its not just rust, perhaps a head gasket blown? Is it worth taking a gamble on this one, or should I hold out? Thoughts?
btw it sounds REALLY good with the flowmaster's currently installed. No engine noises at all.
Edit, it's a 1995, not 94. Still 5.0 engine.
In reply to Indy-Guy :
Like was it actively bubbling or just latent foam?
I wouldn't be too worried about it for that price. It's probably just 15 year old coolant.
I love how Ford V8s sound. 94 is the older 5.0 right? Should be narrower but how's the weight on them?
Weight will be almost the same as the 4 cyl. TR engine. The Brits never figured out thin wall iron casting.
Robbie said:In reply to Indy-Guy :
Like was it actively bubbling or just latent foam?
I wouldn't be too worried about it for that price. It's probably just 15 year old coolant.
Just foam. No bubbling
Stampie said:I love how Ford V8s sound. 94 is the older 5.0 right? Should be narrower but how's the weight on them?
Yes sir. 5.0. as in Vanilla ice.
In reply to Indy-Guy :
In my opinion, $750 is totally worth the gamble. Even if you have to buy a gasket kit.
Do it. The Ford is a better size fit than Buick or SBC options, weighs about the same as the TR lump.
Update. I just texted the seller. We have an agreement. Purchase price of $650. I'm arranging to pick it up Friday. I guess I have to start that build thread now.
In reply to Robbie :
Will do, but I got to get it home first..... that is, if it actually happens. Seller is getting a bit flaky. With the absence of the huge storm that was predicted (we were supposed to get 8" only got about 1") I called the seller to see If I could arrange to go grab it today..... No go on his end.... aaaaannnnnd now all of a sudden he wants a $400 deposit (I was willing to do a $100). I asked if he would give me a call to talk specifics (negotiations always go better talking on the phone vs. text) and I have yet to here from him.
Below is a pic of the car in all its (cough) glory:
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