All-seasons that don't totally suck in the winter?

Knurled wrote:

mndsm wrote: I've never run into a set, personally.

. Also, winter tires make the most hilarious noises when driven near their limit...

I know what you mean. It Sounds like somebody kicking a Bassett hound.

When I had my 2009 WRX, I ran the Continental DWS's in 245/40/17 on all 4 corners, all year long. You would think those wide steamrollers would be terrible in the snow, but they kicked butt. Handling was good, wet traction was great, and snow/ice grip was better than any other all season I've tried before or since. I put over 40k on mine and there was still plenty of tread when I traded the car in. I'd recommend them to anyone with an AWD car that doesn't want to change wheels in the winter.

I'm running Nitto Motivos on the Mazda in 225/45/17 on my stock wheels. I tried them out last winter, mainly because my old Blizzaks were too worn, and they sucked. I ponied up and got General Altimax Arctics and they are magical on the car.

Came here to suggest Continental Extremecontact DWS, but I guess it's been covered...

Blaise wrote:

jere wrote: The biggest problem I've found with snow tires is they suck when there is no snow. I switched from azenis to skinnier quality snow tire and had a panic stop with out getting a chance to adjust between the two ( I know loose nut behind the wheel ) The difference was like trying to stop on ice. I locked up the snows when I wouldn't have with the better wider tire. But I have had a ton of fun on snow tires when everyone else is crawling along or literally off the road in a ditch. (My record is passing 8 cars in in a hilly ditch in less than a quarter mile )

I'd strongly disagree with this non-snow-cold-weather-assesment. What snow tires are you using? I've had to go for a quick run in the winter with Azenis and found them downright dangerous in the cold (in dry conditions). I'm going with everybody else and voting snow-only. The newest snow tires have incredible behavior. I have WS80s on the gfs subaru and I can't even tell the difference in handling in dry/wet. They're amazing. As for me.... sub $200 for Pirelli snow tires (new from Tirerack). It's hilarious confidently driving around when the rest of the city had ground to a halt.

What are you talking about? I never said anything about driving azenis in the snow

I was saying I switched from summer to winter tires ( you know because winter was coming?). The switch showed how much less traction there is with super tall narrow tread vs large blocky wide tread.

Then I talked about the fun I had on snow tires...

I think you missed read or I didn't use enough commas?

Anyway I drive clapped out/death trap 400,000+ mile rwd crown vics all winter with mismatched bald tires 12 hours/300 miles day... And that's around the rest of the slow moving traffic. Snow tires are for wussies

Must have misunderstood :) I thought you said trying to stop with the snow tire was like trying to stop on ice, was assuming we were talking about low temps.

There's certainly a lot less grip when it's still warm out compared to Falkens. I don't switch until the low is routinely below 40.