2017 Ford Police Interceptor Utility (slicktop)
2017 Ford Police Interceptor Utility (slicktop)
Ive always liked interceptors.
I liked cop cars better when they were slow and obvious.
They look good - my little village has 3-4 of them and a couple of tahoes. I keep wondering why my dollars are going for highway intercept vehicles when we have a small town with the nearest highway about 7 miles away and most roads have a 30 mph limit. 
sesto elemento wrote: I liked cop cars better when they were slow and obvious.
Also, when they didn't give you an epilepsy test every time they turned the lights on.
BrokenYugo wrote:sesto elemento wrote: I liked cop cars better when they were slow and obvious.Also, when they didn't give you an epilepsy test every time they turned the lights on.
Ain't that the truth...still seeing spots from the other night, when I saw one of these go full on supernova behind a car that was weaving around between lanes. 
When is it considered entrapment? Having a vehicle that looks like every soccer moms? I say turn about is fair play, we "normals" that aren't part of the gestapo should be allowed to run squad car paint schemes.
i don't like it... at all... cop cars used to be a visible deterrent to keep you on your toes: you see the red and blue lights on top of a Caprice or Crown Vic up ahead and you glance down to make sure you aren't going 5 over the speed limit and double check that your seatbelt is on or whatever... now you are just cruising along and the first sense that you have been targeted for revenue generation are the blinding red and blue strobe lights in your mirror.
Yep, UC cars were never meant for traffic duty, they were meant for other police work.
Using them for traffic enforcement is essentially entrapment and they do nothing to actually help with traffic issues.
oldtin wrote: They look good - my little village has 3-4 of them and a couple of tahoes. I keep wondering why my dollars are going for highway intercept vehicles when we have a small town with the nearest highway about 7 miles away and most roads have a 30 mph limit.
Homeland Security dollars and Cops who have to spend it.
It should be lime green. In fact, any car with red and blues should have to be chromed lime green. At least give us civvies a chance to slow down or stop bobbing and weaving trying to maintain the speed limit.
Eh, im ok with it. Sure a full gumball machine on top of a cruiser is nice, but lets be real. You should probably slow down before you see the leo. I've come to accept that i stand out in traffic, i tend to speed, and i will get pulled over. And really, if my tax and ticket dollars are going to fund a cruiser for a department, i want em to shave an mpg or two. Get my moneys worth.
That and i stopped looking for the roof lights about 5 years ago, when suvs became more prevalent. Snow plows up north can run yellows, as can tow trucks, and a light bar on top of a chevy grill looks like a cop to me. I generally look for the divider or E36 M3 sticking out of the dash. (Note to self, cruisers are tinted florida. Must find new means to alot)
oldtin wrote: They look good - my little village has 3-4 of them and a couple of tahoes. I keep wondering why my dollars are going for highway intercept vehicles when we have a small town with the nearest highway about 7 miles away and most roads have a 30 mph limit.
I felt the same way when I lived in Ocean City NJ.. an island a mile wide and 7 miles long with a speed limit of 25mph except for one road that allowed 40mph for a mile (but not any longer now that houses are built on it)
In Ohio, it is illegal to use unmarked for traffic tickets. The new trend is this type of "ghost logo"
Westlake, OH uses similar to write tickets on I-90 in West metro Cleveland.
Stefan (Not Bruce) wrote: Yep, UC cars were never meant for traffic duty, they were meant for other police work. Using them for traffic enforcement is essentially entrapment and they do nothing to actually help with traffic issues.
That's not how entrapment works.
I've noticed a local trend for officers to leave a constant, dim, blue light on all the time at night. It definitely makes them stand out in traffic.
As far as undercover work, N. Charleston has two minivans, a mid 80s Chevy Caprice wagon, and a white Mustang GT with blue racing stripes. And those are just the ones that I have noticed.
I like the way most of the SUV interceptors look. They all scream "COP" though and would even with the lights off. Soccer mom SUVs don't look that aggressive and never wear black steelies.
In reply to JohnRW1621:
Municipal cops on the Interstate was a concept I never saw until I moved to this country. It's a money grab and nothing more. The City of Livonia is very adept at it in SE Michigan.
DeadSkunk wrote: In reply to JohnRW1621: Municipal cops on the Interstate was a concept I never saw until I moved to this country. It's a money grab and nothing more. The City of Livonia is very adept at it in SE Michigan.
When I lived in Columbus, Oh it was not unusual to see a highway patrol, Gahanna, Columbus city and Westerville cop all radaring along 270 within a small stretch.
CT state cops don't have logos on the cars, but they run lightbars on pretty much everything (with a "state police" bit in the center of the bar that's lit at night). Plus, who else drives silver cars with black steelies and silver center caps?
The local police are starting to look......adversarial for lack of a better term. Blacked out SUV's, fatigues for uniforms, it's very off putting. The bad guys and the cops are now in some sort of war for who can look the most visually intimidating.
The exception to this is the Texas State Police. They continue to roll in black and whites and wear uniforms that quickly indetify them as police and not some kid on his way to play airsoft. The contrast between local and state police couldn't be more stark.
As to the original question, I'm not sure designing totally bad ass sneaky patrol vehichicles is doing the police any good from a public relations standpoint.
DeadSkunk wrote: In reply to JohnRW1621: Municipal cops on the Interstate was a concept I never saw until I moved to this country. It's a money grab and nothing more. The City of Livonia is very adept at it in SE Michigan.
Oh yeah, a money grab. Here's a classic; Linndale, Ohio.
From Wiki:
Linndale, often called a speed trap,[6][10] had for many years the busiest, on a per-capita basis, Mayor's Court in the State of Ohio.[11][12] The village in the past has successfully defended its legal right to enforce the 60 mph speed limit on the 422 yards of Interstate 71 within its jurisdiction under the "Home Rule" provisions of the state constitution.[10][13] The combination of traffic enforcement and Mayor's Court has provided 80% of Linndale's one million dollar annual budget, and underwritten its four full-time and ten part-time police officers.[14]
On December 20, 2012, Governor John Kasich signed a bill[15] into law effective March 22, 2013, which dissolved Linndale's Mayor's Court.[16] A sergeant in the Linndale police department stated that traffic cases would subsequently be handled by nearby Parma.[17]
In response to decreasing revenue, Linndale has installed speed cameras on its most heavily traveled non-interstate, Memphis Avenue,[18] and is processing some traffic violations locally instead of relying on Parma Municipal Court.;[19] however another attempt to increase revenue with a proposed increase in the village income tax from 2% to 2.5% failed in an 8-12 referendum vote.
That's right, the interstate went through this burg for 422 yards. The officers would have to drive through a couple other municipalities to get "into place" on the portion that was "their's".
4 full timer's and 10 part time officers in a community of 179 people (yeah, less than 200 people!)
Tickets amounted to 80% of their 1 Million dollar annual operating budget!
I dig it.
JohnRW1621 wrote: In Ohio, it is illegal to use unmarked for traffic tickets. The new trend is this type of "ghost logo" Westlake, OH uses similar to write tickets on I-90 in West metro Cleveland.
They've started doing this on the patrol cars in the local fiefdoms of the Philly suburbs where I live. I don't like it.
Eh, they're all easy to spot, if you know what to look for. As was mentioned above, from the side or quartering view the the giveaway is the black steelies with silver center caps and the multiple little wifi domes on top . From the front, you can learn to spot the LED bars built into the front of the side mirrors, lights hiding in the grill, and lights in the upper corners of the windshield. There is just no way to keep an LEO traffic/pursuit vehicle from looking like what it is no matter how subtle they try to make the appearance, if you make it a habbit to look for these giveaways.
JohnRW1621 wrote:DeadSkunk wrote: In reply to JohnRW1621: Municipal cops on the Interstate was a concept I never saw until I moved to this country. It's a money grab and nothing more. The City of Livonia is very adept at it in SE Michigan.Oh yeah, a money grab. Here's a classic; Linndale, Ohio. From Wiki: Linndale, often called a speed trap,[6][10] had for many years the busiest, on a per-capita basis, Mayor's Court in the State of Ohio.[11][12] The village in the past has successfully defended its legal right to enforce the 60 mph speed limit on the 422 yards of Interstate 71 within its jurisdiction under the "Home Rule" provisions of the state constitution.[10][13] The combination of traffic enforcement and Mayor's Court has provided 80% of Linndale's one million dollar annual budget, and underwritten its four full-time and ten part-time police officers.[14] On December 20, 2012, Governor John Kasich signed a bill[15] into law effective March 22, 2013, which dissolved Linndale's Mayor's Court.[16] A sergeant in the Linndale police department stated that traffic cases would subsequently be handled by nearby Parma.[17] In response to decreasing revenue, Linndale has installed speed cameras on its most heavily traveled non-interstate, Memphis Avenue,[18] and is processing some traffic violations locally instead of relying on Parma Municipal Court.;[19] however another attempt to increase revenue with a proposed increase in the village income tax from 2% to 2.5% failed in an 8-12 referendum vote. That's right, the interstate went through this burg for 422 yards. The officers would have to drive through a couple other municipalities to get "into place" on the portion that was "their's". 4 full timer's and 10 part time officers in a community of 179 people (yeah, less than 200 people!) Tickets amounted to 80% of their 1 Million dollar annual operating budget! Map
Good ol Linndale. Nothing like sitting in your car at 2am with the lights off 2ft from the high speed lane to 'promote safety'... money grabbing idiots.
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