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belteshazzar
belteshazzar UberDork
5/16/13 11:14 a.m.

Just bought flyin miata's vmaxx kit.

I would like to stuff as much wheel and rubber under there as I can without getting stupid.

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
5/16/13 11:16 a.m.

17s won't really help you anyways, and they'll look dumb.

225/45-15 is about as good as it gets, sorry.

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/16/13 11:18 a.m.

I don't even think 16's look right on an NA.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
5/16/13 11:20 a.m.

+1 for 225/45/15s. About as wide as you can fit and it looks good.

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/16/13 11:21 a.m.

Blech...

 photo BlackMiata011.jpg

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/16/13 11:26 a.m.

Do you want as much wheel as possible, or as much rubber? Because the answer is not the same.

I actually have a set of 17s for my daily driver. My wife likes them. But I tend to run the car on 15s because I like a bit more sidewall compliance and a have a bunch of 225/45-15 R1Rs that need to be used up.

SCARR
SCARR Reader
5/16/13 11:30 a.m.
Woody wrote: Blech...  photo BlackMiata011.jpg

I think he is trying to "tuck as much as possible" like this:

belteshazzar
belteshazzar UberDork
5/16/13 11:56 a.m.

Hey Keith, how much tire have you got there on the aforementioned 17" daily driver?

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/16/13 12:08 p.m.

205/40-17, I think. You can't put a lot of width on a 17" wheel, the sizes don't work out well as the tires tend to get awfully tall. Thus my question about "do you want a lot of tire or a lot of wheel"?

belteshazzar
belteshazzar UberDork
5/16/13 12:11 p.m.

wheel

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
5/16/13 12:14 p.m.

Not to pry... but why do you want a lot of wheel over rubber?

ZOO
ZOO GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
5/16/13 12:25 p.m.

Just because it fits doesn't mean it looks right.

belteshazzar
belteshazzar UberDork
5/16/13 12:32 p.m.

i dunno. I know the Rival comes in a 245/45-17, which is a lot of diameter for this little car, but maybe once it's dropped some on these coilovers it won't seem so bad.

this will result in taller gearing, which might be beneficial for an eminent turbo situation.

z31maniac
z31maniac PowerDork
5/16/13 12:42 p.m.

There is no way you will ever get that to fit at any kind of "low" ride height.

Not to mention, 17x8-9 in 4x100 is hard to find as well.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/16/13 12:44 p.m.

Lay off the judgements, guys. Let's focus on actually answering the question.

A 245/45-17 is a LOT of diameter. Actually, it's a 245/40-17 which is a bit better, but you're still going to have to some work ahead of you stuffing that thing in there. The first challenge will be finding a 17x8 or 17x9 to mount it on. Then you're going to find that you have a high CG and suspension travel issues, as there just isn't as much room in the wheel wells as you'd like.

I put a set of 245/45-16 tires on an NB years ago, which have the same outer dimensions. It wasn't the easiest thing to pull off.

I've also run a 235/45-17 on an NB, and it compromised the car too badly. Running a 225/45-15 rides better and grips better. I've set an NB up to run 255/40-17, but never had the wheels to try it out. Given the experiences with the 235, I'm not liable to explore the issue.

Much better.

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
5/16/13 1:07 p.m.
belteshazzar wrote: i dunno. I know the Rival comes in a 245/45-17, which is a lot of diameter for this little car, but maybe once it's dropped some on these coilovers it won't seem so bad. this will result in taller gearing, which might be beneficial for an eminent turbo situation.

It's enough diameter that you're going to be cutting bumper and wheel well in an attempt to make it fit.

As a tire whore and an owner of an NA, it's a painful situation. About the best you can "easily" do is a 235/50-15 R888, and that's still going to take some work.

Gearheadotaku
Gearheadotaku GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
5/16/13 1:14 p.m.

I think the red NB looks great. Sort of RX-7ish. What spoiler is that?

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
5/16/13 1:17 p.m.
Gearheadotaku wrote: I think the red NB looks great. Sort of RX-7ish. What spoiler is that?

Stock MSM spoiler. (car is an MSM)

belteshazzar
belteshazzar UberDork
5/16/13 1:23 p.m.
Keith Tanner wrote: A 245/45-17 is a LOT of diameter. Actually, it's a 245/40-17 which is a bit better, but you're still going to have to some work ahead of you stuffing that thing in there.

bfg and tire rack say 225/45-17. which is 24.9 inches across. i misspoke when I indicated 245 mm width.

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
5/16/13 1:31 p.m.
belteshazzar wrote:
Keith Tanner wrote: A 245/45-17 is a LOT of diameter. Actually, it's a 245/40-17 which is a bit better, but you're still going to have to some work ahead of you stuffing that thing in there.
bfg and tire rack say 225/45-17. which is 24.9 inches across. i misspoke when I indicated 245 mm width.

That's still pretty much unmanageable. That's 2" more diameter than a 225/45-15, which fills out stock bodywork pretty dang well.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/16/13 1:45 p.m.

There is a 245/40-17 BFG Rival. FYI.

belteshazzar
belteshazzar UberDork
5/16/13 1:46 p.m.

yeah, my post was confusing. sorry.

beans
beans New Reader
5/16/13 1:50 p.m.

275/35/15 A6 on 15x10 6UL.

Done and done. Lots of tire, lots of wheel, lots of grip.

z31maniac
z31maniac PowerDork
5/16/13 2:43 p.m.
beans wrote: 275/35/15 A6 on 15x10 6UL. Done and done. Lots of tire, lots of wheel, lots of grip.

A6s make great street tires.

nderwater
nderwater UberDork
5/16/13 3:01 p.m.

My NB came on 17's from the previous owner when I bought it. Less than a week later, I had sticky rubber on the stock 15's back on the car.

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