Robbie said:
Indy-Barely Functional-Guy said:
Robbie said:
I think a Saturn wagon would have a great shot at winning the challenge wagon class.
Really? Have you seen the DATSANITI build?
Of course I have, and if datsaniti is firing on all cylinders it'll be tough to beat.
Doesn't mean something else can't have a great shot too!
If I had the time and resources for a challenge build (or any time and resources at all) I'd probably be attempting to put a turbo on a Saturn wagon as we speak. But... I have neither time nor resources so I'm just talking about Saturns on the internet 
I had 2, an SC2 and an SL2. Loved them both. Sold the first to pay rent and the second got totaled.
They can take some boost too - or nitrous. There were a few guys on turbosaturn.net running pretty quick 1/4 mile times back in the day.
Good to see the Saturn love here......
I actually sold Saturns from 1996-1997, and got to know them pretty well. GM had a good idea with the Saturn philosophy and really changed the way car buying is done. We had tons of women purchasing new Saturns as the buying experience wasn't scummy and intimidating like it was at the Honda, and Toyota stores in town.
They were a bit unrefined, and the interior plastic has giant gaps even when new. The gearboxes also felt like they had sand in them......other than that they were fun, light, simple efficient little cars. They also had dipsticks for the manual transmissions, and spin-off filters for the auto-boxes--- which I thought was kinda cool. They were also pretty darn safe for the day, and only weighed around 2400 lbs.
Saturn was a good idea that GM killed....... as it seems to do with most of it's good ideas.
I'd still like a 95 SW2 for a daily beater / parts chaser.
My first (and likely last...) car bought new was a Blackberry 2000 SL2. Drive the crap out of that car for 15 years from one end of the country to the other before ending up selling it a few years back because it was the odd car out in terms of what I needed at the time. It was a ridiculously reliable and friendly car, and I highly recommend them to anyone as a commuter appliance.
Joe Gearin said:
They also had dipsticks for the manual transmissions, and spin-off filters for the auto-boxes--- which I thought was kinda cool.
They also have a self bleeding clutch & self bleeding (burping?) cooling system. Compared with other cars of the early 90s, I believe they were one of the first econoboxes that had no distributor, no adjustable cam sensor, no setting of timing, etc. as well.
That wagon with the wheels looks really good!
I always liked the looks of them, and I admit, the "different kind of car" ad campaign hooked me. Never driven or owned one though. Off to CL!
cmcgregor said:
I had 2, an SC2 and an SL2. Loved them both. Sold the first to pay rent and the second got totaled.
They can take some boost too - or nitrous. There were a few guys on turbosaturn.net running pretty quick 1/4 mile times back in the day.
Does anyone on GRM have a boosted example?
A few of the turbosaturns/sixthsphere guys have posted here, but I don't think any of them are regulars.
They are not easy cars to boost in the sense that everything is either ebay garbage or custom.
I had a '97 SC2 5 spd. Bought it with 100k on it, sold it with 200k on it. Great little car. Was suprised how much I liked at as the miles went by. Saw it on the road 2 years after I sold it, who knows how may miles it had by then.
When you live in the rust belt, nothing beats plastic panels! (when you fix the metal underneath, your welds don't have to be pretty, just strong.)
