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dyintorace
dyintorace GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
8/17/12 7:30 a.m.

If you do end up having the motor replaced, I'm guessing you'll take it to the dealership that kept telling you nothing was wrong? That way they'll have the pleasure of doing all the warranty work.

Sky_Render
Sky_Render Reader
8/17/12 7:30 a.m.
frenchy wrote: In reply to Datsun1500: $26k? Is that a typo. My god that is expensive.

That's what I was thinking. Unless, of course, they're dropping a V10 in there or something.

Datsun310Guy
Datsun310Guy UltraDork
8/17/12 7:41 a.m.

My brother had turbo issues with his 3 year old A4 with only 57,000 miles on it. And he had oil issues the entire time. As cool as those Audi's are; I don't have deep enough pockets to own one.......

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 UltraDork
8/17/12 7:44 a.m.

My wife bought a new 2001 A6 2.7T and drove it for about 7 years and 100k more-or-less trouble-free miles. Finally decided to let it go when the turbos started singing. I always figured the 4.2 would have lasted longer. Maybe not.

(Unfortunately?) I never got a chance to see why people dislike Audi's so much. Car was a joy to drive and the build quality was immaculate. No real issues. Good warranty for the first 4 years of ownership. Gorgeous, long-wearing interior. Car looked nearly new when she sold it.

Call me crazy, but I would own another one.

yamaha
yamaha HalfDork
8/17/12 9:41 a.m.
plance1 wrote: i hate to hear negative things about audi, ive always liked the s8 and the allroad.

They're nice cars, just berkeleying expensive to repair.....

That sucks about the engine popping, I too would have them replace the engine.......or negotiate for more than the current audi cost you off of a new one. They screwed up by the "nothing is wrong" attitude, this should be a rather big bargaining chip.

Type Q
Type Q Dork
8/17/12 2:14 p.m.

Maybe you get them to swap in and LSx.

jstein77
jstein77 Dork
8/17/12 2:37 p.m.
1988RedT2 wrote: (Unfortunately?) I never got a chance to see why people dislike Audi's so much. Car was a joy to drive and the build quality was immaculate. No real issues. Good warranty for the first 4 years of ownership. Gorgeous, long-wearing interior. Car looked nearly new when she sold it. Call me crazy, but I would own another one.

The real issues with Audis don't appear until after 100,000 miles. When things start wearing out, you'll find that it is incredibly difficult and expensive to repair, even if you do the work yourself. For example, a co-worker just replaced the starter on his. He had to remove the entire front clip to get to it. It took him 3 weeks.

Ian F
Ian F PowerDork
8/17/12 3:01 p.m.
Datsun1500 wrote: $26K is not a typo. It's for a "refurbished" motor with a 4 year 50K warranty.

That sounds familiar. I went down this road back in 2002 when I bought a used A4 2.8. I sold it 3 months later. It was a nice car and I miss it sometimes, although I shudder to think what it would be like if I still had it today and drove it as much as I've driven the TDI. It'd be close to 400K. And I would have gotten Christmas cards from the area gas stations...

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 UltraDork
8/17/12 3:58 p.m.
jstein77 wrote:
1988RedT2 wrote: (Unfortunately?) I never got a chance to see why people dislike Audi's so much. Car was a joy to drive and the build quality was immaculate. No real issues. Good warranty for the first 4 years of ownership. Gorgeous, long-wearing interior. Car looked nearly new when she sold it. Call me crazy, but I would own another one.
The real issues with Audis don't appear until after 100,000 miles. When things start wearing out, you'll find that it is incredibly difficult and expensive to repair, even if you do the work yourself. For example, a co-worker just replaced the starter on his. He had to remove the entire front clip to get to it. It took him 3 weeks.

I agree completely. I researched the turbo replacement job on my wife's A6, briefly entertaining the idea of doing it myself. I quickly became convinced that getting away from the car was the best solution.

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
8/17/12 4:56 p.m.

I wonder what the cost difference is between a used motor and getting a new one? It may be worth it to pony up the difference. 26K? I think they are exaggerating things a bit. You can not tel me that a used motor installed costs more than a FR-S / BR-Z. Me thinks they are full of you know with with that number. Either that or they are milking it for all ti is worth as it is being payed for by corporate or some sort of insurance.

Tyler H
Tyler H GRM+ Memberand Dork
8/17/12 9:49 p.m.

Get them to write you a check for the $26k and sell the car on ebay.

Travis_K
Travis_K SuperDork
8/17/12 10:18 p.m.

After seeing what it took to replace the front crank seal on a v6 a6 wagon, I can believe $26k if that's including labor. An a4 wagon tried to kill my friends mom too, so that gives me enough reason to stay away. They are cars best enjoyed with a 100k mile warranty, and sold as soon as the warranty expires.

aussiesmg
aussiesmg UltimaDork
8/17/12 10:25 p.m.
Datsun310Guy wrote:
Datsun1500 wrote: Back for an update: Other option is they will give me my original purchase price towards another Audi.
Get the cheapest, newest Audi you can get. Sell it in three months as you didn't like the seats. Get a CTS-V

FTFY

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
8/17/12 10:30 p.m.

Sorry to hear about the engine.

Advise them you want the cash, but not towards another Audi.

IF you do decide to get another Audi, go into the dealership and negotiate a buying price before you tell them they're also giving you xxxx dollars towards the purchase price.

Ian F
Ian F PowerDork
8/18/12 7:54 a.m.

In reply to dean1484:

I wouldn't count on a new motor even being available.

Considering it took my dealer about 8 weeks to replace and sort out the heads on my A4, I can totally believe $26K for a full engine r&r.

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
8/18/12 8:55 a.m.

How much are these cars new? Sounds like a prime target car for thieves if the parts are that expensive and hard to get.

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
8/18/12 9:07 a.m.

After thinking about this I would seriously consider another motor. IF is it a refurb I would be curious as to what the means? IF it is a complete teardown and rebuild by hand then I could see it getting expensive. If this is what they are offering I would see about getting the warranty on the motor extended for 100K total miles on the new / refurb motor. Even if you had to pay for that it would be worth it. Since these cars seem to have issues and considering how and when yours failed if the same thing happens to this new motor it will be out of warranty the next time around.

Does the dealer sell anything else besides Audi's? OR do they own another dealership selling another car brand that you could transfer the original purchase price they are offering you to? If they do and there is another comparable car from another manufacturer I would consider taking the $$$$ and going to a more reliable comparable car. From what everyone is saying these are cars that you should expect a hugely expensive repair bill around the 100K mile of service.

That is a really tough choice. If the rest of the car has been good and is well cared for putting a motor in it with an extended warranty is not a bad option. I am not implying that they should provide you with a new 100K mile warranty as part of the feel. They only are obligated to the original 100K warranty and them giving you a 50K warranty on the new motor actually goes 18K beyond what they originally own. What I am wondering is if for a fee you could get the clock reset on the new motor so its warranty is extended for another 100k as these seem to be a problem according to what others are saying.

nicksta43
nicksta43 Dork
8/18/12 10:04 p.m.

Cost us a little over 16k to put a new power stroke in a Ford f550, which should be a little more common than said Audi.

m4ff3w
m4ff3w GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
8/18/12 11:23 p.m.
Datsun1500 wrote: I think they are being very fair on this. They are really only obligated to fix the car, yet they are giving me a few choices. I can take the original purchase price towards another Certified per owned audi as well. That would mean I drove this car for free for 2 years. I can get the car fixed and carry on with a car that is still under warranty, nothing changes except a little bit of a hassle over the last few months. The big issue for me is I like this body style a lot more than the newer ones, so I am leaning towards fixing this one.

http://cars.audiusa.com/vehicles/WAUBNAFB7AN050629

:)

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand UberDork
8/19/12 10:47 a.m.
Datsun1500 wrote: I think they are being very fair on this. They are really only obligated to fix the car, yet they are giving me a few choices. I can take the original purchase price towards another Certified per owned audi as well. That would mean I drove this car for free for 2 years. I can get the car fixed and carry on with a car that is still under warranty, nothing changes except a little bit of a hassle over the last few months. The big issue for me is I like this body style a lot more than the newer ones, so I am leaning towards fixing this one.

Well, it seems to be a car you like and you know what is wrong with it. I'd lean towards getting it fixed, too - the old "better the devil you know" approach...

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