Bias ply slicks question

APEowner wrote: There is no such thing as too much tire, just not enough power.

  What He Said!!!!!!!!!!!!!

APEowner wrote: There is no such thing as too much tire, just not enough power.

So, we can put 375's on a shifter kart, right?

I think tire size limits have something to do with the chassis, not just the power level. You can't put a nitro methane dragster engine in a micro car, so enormous drag slicks also make no sense.

(I know some of you are already Googling for a picture of a Subaru 360 that can run the 1320 in 4 seconds- but that's gonna be a 360 body grafted onto a dragster chassis, so I stand by my statement about the chassis.)

Im a believer in no such thing as too much tire. Within reason.

Especially for autocross. But i know that you can get stupid, and get out of the optimal range with this. Hence, this thread. Wanted to make sure that i am staying between the lines.

What NO 22's , and yea I am talking Race Cars Not Go Kart's but if you can Handle 500 HP you can Possibly Use More tire.

Do we get them balanced?

useully there is a dot yellow I think that lines up with the valve stem ,do that and then check balance so yes but may not need it or much, How's that for an answer a set of 4 tires are budget exempt aren't they so ask the race tire Dealer.

We wont be running new slicks, even though they are budget exempt. We just can't afford it.

So, balance if needed. Got it.

Tubes or no? Slicks that we have done say either way.

I ran bias ply tires on my hillclimb RX7 for 3 seasons. 23.5/10.0-15 American Racers. Never balanced them and didn't run tubes. Never soaked them and never felt I needed to for additional grip.

I got rid of them because the double movement bothered me. An input had a slight effect and then the tire changed direction and what you wanted actually happened. Fine if you get used to it and forgiving of large slip angles too, but I prefer the quicker response of a radial.

Id love radials. But, cost and availability lead me to bias ply. That, and without heavy rework, our geometry couldn't make full use of radials.

we just had a BIG storm here and Two Paragraph's got wiped out. I'll do it again later but Must go back to bed now.

In reply to Dusterbd13:

Yeah I think you're making the right decision here. I definitely had a lot of giggles on my bias plys while autocrossing.

I have not used circle track tires for autocrossing, but years ago used some different circle track tires for drag racing and street shenanigans.

I tried and tested American Racer, Hoosier, and Goodyear. The American Racer a long time ago had McCreary Road Star also in a DOT tread in a 7 and 8 inch wide treads for the street stock class aka Beer Stox. The slicks were a common found cheap to free 27x10x15. The bias slicks the 10 inch is true 10 inch wide tread so you have a big tire. I liked the Goodyear treaded slick and found it easier to use, also was in a 26.5 and 27x8x15. I don't think they make these anymore. The old Road Stars were for the street sleeper look. They required a good heating. The slicks used often need a really good cleaning first. The Hoosier slicks were more consistent than the American Racers. They all make different compounds also, and if were outside tend to get harder of course. I bought a few from a driver that used expensive tire treatments, and you could tell based on how the tread of the tire looked. They performed very good.

I've used Formula 5 treatment with a spray bottle, it works well but too is also expensive.

If you have a really good heat gun, and portable power, you may be able to warm the tread slightly before the autocross runs.

I have a 76 Olds Cutlass that I bought for $400 a long time ago that has been sitting which I've thought often could use the street stock treatment with hugh circle track tires but still drive it on the street (treaded versions)

Just wanted to make sure I followed up on this.

We went there.

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APEowner wrote: There is no such thing as too much tire, just not enough power.

In one of the recent ultra high performance Corvettes, GM made the rear tires narrower because that made lap times go down. Even with 600-odd horsepower on street tires, you can have too much tire.

And look at how fast some of the 10.5" slick rule cars are now! 6 seconds on narrow slicks.

In reply to Dusterbd13:

That looks simply awesome

One of the good things about bias-ply slick as you don't have to run a whole lot of camber

Prolines 10.5 Outlaw Corvette is in the 3's, the 8.5 Outlaws are in the 4's