Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa UltimaDork
5/29/23 7:33 p.m.

No, not stealing one.

This year I'm gonna try and start moving on my first Challenge car.  Gonna be a Crown Vic.  I'd like to turbo it and boost it till it blows up, then maybe pull the engine at the Challenge and swap a JY one in.  

How much boost can it handle?

Floating Doc (Forum Supporter)
Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
5/29/23 7:34 p.m.

All of it, of course. Once....

Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/29/23 7:43 p.m.

31.2 lbs.  Once.

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa UltimaDork
5/29/23 7:54 p.m.

Smart asses.

eebasist
eebasist Reader
5/29/23 9:54 p.m.
Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/29/23 11:19 p.m.
Mr_Asa said:

Smart asses.

Well yeah.  Would you expect any less from us?

Floating Doc (Forum Supporter)
Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
5/29/23 11:27 p.m.
Stampie said:
Mr_Asa said:

Smart asses.

Well yeah.  Would you expect any less from us?

Yeah, we'd hate to let you down. After all, we've got our reputations to think of. 
 

aircooled
aircooled MegaDork
5/30/23 12:45 a.m.

I don't know, but I REALLY want you to find out!

STM317
STM317 PowerDork
5/30/23 7:04 a.m.

For a challenge budget I'd guess that the fuel system and tune would limit you more than the engine's hard parts.

 

I did read an old forum post that said they used weaker rods starting in 01. No idea if that's true or not though.

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/30/23 7:39 a.m.

I can't help much, but I did watch a video where an InTech took 25psi on a dyno.... exactly once.  They were shooting for 14-17 and the wastegate didn't respond as intended.  I didn't watch the second video to see what the carnage was, but at least that's a ballpark of where things will almost definitely go south.

1SlowVW
1SlowVW Dork
5/30/23 8:10 a.m.

I hate to be that guy but you also need to consider that there will be no fixed "max" boost for a motor. The turbo, the intake , exhaust...all kinds of things have an effect on boost pressure. I installed a cam once in a car and lost two psi but made more power because the head was flowing better. 

Just focus on getting the turbo set up together and start low. 

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa UltimaDork
5/30/23 8:19 a.m.

In reply to 1SlowVW :

No, I 100% get that.  I'm looking for ballparks.  What I can shoot for.

Is the engine good till 15psi, but that power level will kill the trans?  Will launching at that level grenade the rear end?  That kind of thing.

Just general plans so I know what target to aim towards. 

Will
Will UberDork
5/30/23 9:53 a.m.

The engine, diff and transmission are all essentially identical to Mustangs of similar vintage, so I'd check the Mustang forums to see how those parts are holding up. Obviously a heavier car will put more strain on the trans, diff, etc., but it's a starting point.

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