Duke
MegaDork
3/11/22 4:04 p.m.
So... assuming 200TW tires and a not-insane engine choice, where do the various Lotus 7 clones wind up for autocross?
For years we had one person who had several, of varying levels of spiciness, and he always ran on Hoosiers in D Mod because that way it didn't matter which one he showed up with.
Then we had another guy who started bringing his own home-built 7, and he ran in D Mod because the other guy was already there.
But now we're getting more of them at our events, and the original guy sold off all but 1 normal Caterham Super 7, so I want to make sure we get them all in the right class going forward.
Thanks!
NickD
MegaDork
3/11/22 4:12 p.m.
As far as I understand it, all Lotus 7s and clones go directly to Mod, regardless of tire.
My impression is that none of the options other than maybe an original Lotus counts as a "production car", so that means a Mod category, D or E.
...Unless bike-engined, which technically get bumped to BM.
Duke
MegaDork
3/11/22 8:00 p.m.
In reply to NickD and codrus (Forum Supporter) :
OK, thanks. Original, Lotus-branded 7s can be run in CS I think (CSP? I'm away from Appendix A right now) but that is original cars with <1.4L engines.
So it sounds like DM it is, unless bike engined. Thanks everyone!
D mod if less than 2.0L. E mod if over or if the turbo multiplier puts you over. E mod has higher minimum weight. tires don't matter unless you don't run DOT then you have to meet additional requirements.
Duke said:
OK, thanks. Original, Lotus-branded 7s can be run in CS I think (CSP? I'm away from Appendix A right now) but that is original cars with <1.4L engines.
Looks like CS, SSP, and DP for original Lotus 7s. No ST or SSM love for them, though.
Does a true Caterham qualify as a Lotus branded original? They seem like production cars to me.
Duke
MegaDork
3/12/22 9:32 a.m.
In reply to Woody (Forum Supportum) :
I don't believe so since they were indeed licensed by Lotus, but updated numerous ways. Also, even Caterhams are far from 'production' since they are basically shipped to the dealer like half-assembled kit cars with lots of customization on the assembly end.
The person in my OP was a Caterham dealer which is why he had such a selection to choose from.
Thanks to everyone else for the additional detail!
NickD
MegaDork
3/12/22 10:01 a.m.
codrus (Forum Supporter) said:
Duke said:
OK, thanks. Original, Lotus-branded 7s can be run in CS I think (CSP? I'm away from Appendix A right now) but that is original cars with <1.4L engines.
Looks like CS, SSP, and DP for original Lotus 7s. No ST or SSM love for them, though.
They technically aren't legal for C Street either, thanks to the 30 year rule.
HFmaxi
Reader
3/12/22 10:33 a.m.
SCCA 18.1.C.2.h
"h. All series of Lotus 7, 7A, Super 7 and their clone or kit forms (such as Birkin, Westfield, Locost) are automatically classified as Modified Tubs. This also applies to the Shelby Cobra and its clones."
Edit: that's from 2020. Not going to confirm when but the 2022 Modified rules are a bit different and seem to allow original Lotus 7 and 7A in some other classes
Lotus 7 and clones are D and E mod cars with car motors... full stop.
they're too light to hit min weight in street mod classes and xtreme street.