Paris Van Gorder
Paris Van Gorder Associate editor
11/21/24 4:37 p.m.
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When working on a project, at what point do you decide things can move to the next step? For most FSAE teams, their last call comes in the form of Critical Design Review.

For ERAU Motorsports, Critical Design Review, aka CDR, represents a series of presentations done by each team sub-section–such as chassis, suspension and aerodynamics–to show final designs, …

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NOHOME
NOHOME MegaDork
11/21/24 4:45 p.m.

I had no idea how far FSAE went down the product development path followed by industry. Is this specific to one team or pretty much universal for all teams?

 

If they do go down this rabbit hole, then I can see where participants would be sought after commodities in the graduation employment world.

Rick O'Shea
Rick O'Shea GRM+ Memberand New Reader
11/21/24 5:05 p.m.

In reply to NOHOME :

20 years ago it wasn't the norm! At least not for us at Missouri.

nocones
nocones GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
11/21/24 7:04 p.m.

In reply to NOHOME :

UIUC was following a stage/gate design process since the early 90s.  It may have been poorly executed but the process was there.  

It was flattened compared to industry because you didn't have as many steps since the needs we're clearly defined.  IIRC When I went we had 4 phases with 3 design reviews.   Ideation, Design, production/testing, then competition.   We had a review between each but the big one was the design review prior to production.  

After being in industry I do wish we had involved a more rigorous DFMEA to identify where we were taking risks and having a hard rule about where they should be mitigated or avoided.   We had several failures that surely would of been caught had a simple RPN been assigned to the design and construction methods being utilized. 

Example: We introduced an oil leak by modifying engine covers.  Had we assigned an RPN based on (Oil leak results in Failure to complete endurance and makes a top 5 dynamic car an also ran) we probably would of just modified the chassis to not put tubes where Honda had engine covers and just left them alone.   But instead we thought we were smarter then Honda and didn't correctly assess the consequences of what could happen.

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa MegaDork
11/21/24 7:22 p.m.
NOHOME said:

I had no idea how far FSAE went down the product development path followed by industry. Is this specific to one team or pretty much universal for all teams?

With how the Design portion of the competition goes you don't necessarily need one, but it definitely helps to be able to say you did Steps 1, 2, 3, etc when you are defending your work

Paris Van Gorder
Paris Van Gorder Associate editor
11/25/24 9:21 a.m.

In reply to NOHOME :

In my experience with talking with other teams at competition, if they don't do CDR exactly, they do something very similar in their own teams fashion. FSAE has greatly evolved over the years and teams are becoming more and more familiar with industry standards.

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