DAMN.......

bigdaddylee82 wrote: But I want my RS200/MRS to be AWD, what's it going to take to cobble that together?

$$$

I'm thinking that since the engine isn't longitudinally placed in the vehicle that it'd be quite difficult to convert to AWD without a lot of adapting...

In reply to BoxheadTim:

True but what I'm referring to is the corners they cut because it's base it off the MR.

The weird curvature above the windshield caused by the hardtop being left on under the roof outer vs the real RS200 that has a low smooth transition. Some of the pictures have it paint black around the windshield add in some depth to hide it but it's still there.

The "door inner" ("door inner" that is an applied fiberglass door on the outboard side of the MR door) it's awful

Wow gap! (okay fixable gap but why should the end user do it? fix the molds...)

The roof "forehead" is the most offensive but it could be fixed. The best approach would be removing the double roof and design a replacement hardtop that incorporates the RS200 features. You'd still need to do something on the a-pillar but that could still be an applied.

bigdaddylee82 wrote: But I want my RS200/MRS to be AWD, what's it going to take to cobble that together?

Based on a WRX

In reply to eccentric:

Is that a "finished" car or is it a work in progress?

Joe Gearin wrote: Top Gear U.K. had a funny review of the HAWK. (Stratos replica) It held together about as well as you'd think---- for a kit put together in a tiny garage by blind folks with no hands. I recall Clarkson not being willing to test it's top speed for fear it would burst into flames, or kill him.

I once found an article from the owner of that car. Supposedly spent money to buy new good rubber and set the car up. Reportedly, they asked the Stig to lose it in the corner and properly cock up the lap. Just to make TV.

Not saying true, but when have you ever seen something on Top Gear that is not completely truthful?

Thinkkker wrote:

Joe Gearin wrote: Top Gear U.K. had a funny review of the HAWK. (Stratos replica) It held together about as well as you'd think---- for a kit put together in a tiny garage by blind folks with no hands. I recall Clarkson not being willing to test it's top speed for fear it would burst into flames, or kill him.

I once found an article from the owner of that car. Supposedly spent money to buy new good rubber and set the car up. Reportedly, they asked the Stig to lose it in the corner and properly cock up the lap. Just to make TV. Not saying true, but when have you ever seen something on Top Gear that is not completely truthful?

smoke and mirrors on a T.V. show?! Nah.....couldn't happen!

A car with ties (even just visual) with Group B rally?

I'm listening...

Not sure if anyone noticed, but on the pic on page 1, there is a nice looking Stratos (or replica of one).

Thinkkker wrote:

Joe Gearin wrote: Top Gear U.K. had a funny review of the HAWK. (Stratos replica) It held together about as well as you'd think---- for a kit put together in a tiny garage by blind folks with no hands. I recall Clarkson not being willing to test it's top speed for fear it would burst into flames, or kill him.

I once found an article from the owner of that car. Supposedly spent money to buy new good rubber and set the car up. Reportedly, they asked the Stig to lose it in the corner and properly cock up the lap. Just to make TV. Not saying true, but when have you ever seen something on Top Gear that is not completely truthful?

I saw a forum that posted that article. Meant to read it, but I guess I closed the browser before I got a round tuit. Can't find it again...

eccentric wrote:

bigdaddylee82 wrote: But I want my RS200/MRS to be AWD, what's it going to take to cobble that together?

Based on a WRX

Ok this just got real weird real quick. And stupid. A lot of stupid.

The weirdness continues.

Joe Gearin wrote: I recall Clarkson not being willing to test it's top speed for fear it would burst into flames, or kill him.

Which makes it just like a real Stratos. I repeat, the cool part about the RS200 is under the hood, not wrapped around the outside. That part is still missing.

Someone should do this then sell it to me at a loss.

Duke wrote: Except the part that makes it cool is still missing

Yea ok. P.S this kit is $2995

Holy hell @ that torque "curve."

I'm going to use a rally potato on mine and settle for 430hp and full boost @ 3k.

The thing that makes mr2s susceptible to kitcar antics is that all the body panels bolt on, nice if you get bumped in the rear quarter panel too. Or if you want to go widebody

Hai gaiz! Hey, hey gaiz? Guess what? That car next to the RS200 on page 1 is a Lancia Stratos clone!

Of course, it could be a Lister Bell STR instead of a Hawk. I think the STR kit came out more recently and has received all sorts of praise from the British motoring press.

Wait, why are you all looking at me like... oh, no, you vultures may NOT raid my 164's engine for one of these Stratos kits! Get your own!

In reply to RexSeven:

I've lusted over the Hawk HF for years, didn't know about the Lister Bell, thanks! Now I've got options for my "mid life crisis mobile."

I get the appeal of the Alfa V6, Hawk caters to them even. What's they typical going rate for a correct-ish Dino V6? I know it's a kit, but still I think it'd be sweet to have one of the kind of correct power plants. Of course LS4 would be alright with me too.

• Lee

In reply to bigdaddylee82:

$4,200. For the engine block alone.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/for-ferrari-dino-246-fiat-dino-coupe-spyder-lancia-stratos-engine-block-/251569230977?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a92b1d481

And $1,450 for the distributor.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/for-ferrari-dino-246-fiat-dino-coupe-spyder-lancia-stratos-distributoignition-/251569230983?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a92b1d487

Lister Bell also sells a Stratos replica that will accept a Ferrari Mondial V-8 if you must have your F-car fix.

Swank Force One wrote: Holy hell @ that torque "curve."

except that the chart starts at 5000rpm.... impressively smooth once there but I doubt it'll feel like much of a curve when you are trying to get into boost.

It's not a bad idea to finance a kit car as long as I'm going to drive it everyday right?

In reply to Duke:

You sound like me and my criticisms of Ferrari kit cars.

Let's face it; kits exist because supply of originals is very limited and there are folks nostalgic for the look without the cash for originals. If Cosworth BDT-E's were available on local craigslist for pocket change, this kit might die in a hurry. Instead, turbo BDs are going for $10k for a basket case and $20k for a sorted one once in a blue moon, and I'm not sure I've ever seen the FF longitudinal selectable torque-split AWD drivetrain for sale.

As for making it AWD, I wonder what it would look like to use an All-Trac transaxle (transverse awd, with the right Toyota parts bin raiding) to get a transfer case pointed backwards, and then use that output to turn a custom-fabbed driveline to the front. One would have to be careful selecting a front differential to acheive the correct gearing plus rotation. Probably not worth the effort, but an interesting brainstorm.

ae86andkp61 wrote: In reply to Duke: You sound like me and my criticisms of Ferrari kit cars. Let's face it; kits exist because supply of originals is very limited and there are folks nostalgic for the look without the cash for originals. If Cosworth BDT-E's were available on local craigslist for pocket change, this kit might die in a hurry. Instead, turbo BDs are going for $10k for a basket case and $20k for a sorted one once in a blue moon, and I'm not sure I've ever seen the FF longitudinal selectable torque-split AWD drivetrain for sale. As for making it AWD, I wonder what it would look like to use an All-Trac transaxle (transverse awd, with the right Toyota parts bin raiding) to get a transfer case pointed backwards, and then use that output to turn a custom-fabbed driveline to the front. One would have to be careful selecting a front differential to acheive the correct gearing plus rotation. Probably not worth the effort, but an interesting brainstorm.

A very interesting brainstorm

oldeskewltoy wrote:

Like someone else suggested I wonder if that kit can be adapted to a suby to get awd goodness out of it