Porsche is very good at supporting their older cars. Meanwhile I was shocked at how many 3rd Gen Camaro OEM parts were already NLA in 1996. Those crumbly interior trim pieces that they probably could have sold a million of in perpetuity were already gone.
GameboyRMH said:Land Rover does not make mistakes!?!? I can understand that you might've been stunned at this statement, but the proper response was 5 solid minutes of laughter.
I just want to point out that the day-of-posting thumbs-up count as I read this is 30, which is the highest I think I've seen on anything in a while, maybe ever. I wish LR could learn something from that.
GCrites80s said:Porsche is very good at supporting their older cars. Meanwhile I was shocked at how many 3rd Gen Camaro OEM parts were already NLA in 1996. Those crumbly interior trim pieces that they probably could have sold a million of in perpetuity were already gone.
One of the biggest headaches I have at work right now is finding parts for an '02 Camaro. We're scavenging eBay for used parts, new is long gone and the cars aren't in junkyards anymore.
(Anybody got a steering shaft for an LS1 F-body?)
GCrites80s said:Porsche is very good at supporting their older cars. Meanwhile I was shocked at how many 3rd Gen Camaro OEM parts were already NLA in 1996. Those crumbly interior trim pieces that they probably could have sold a million of in perpetuity were already gone.
And how many models of Porsche were made back then compared to GM? Even with as much parts bin engineering as GM used back then it would be millions of warehouse square feet to store throwaway vehicle parts.
Knurled. said:(Anybody got a steering shaft for an LS1 F-body?)
Time to make one with the myriad of aftermarket joints and shafts.
GCrites80s said:Porsche is very good at supporting their older cars. Meanwhile I was shocked at how many 3rd Gen Camaro OEM parts were already NLA in 1996. Those crumbly interior trim pieces that they probably could have sold a million of in perpetuity were already gone.
That's because Porsche are still the same as they were 30 years ago, just 2 inches wider and 5 longer.
I swear if this happened to my wife, the dealership would end up giving us two free keys, lifetime oil changes and a $250 gift certificate.
If it happened to me and she didn’t jump in and take over, I’d be in prison.
Knurled. said:GCrites80s said:Porsche is very good at supporting their older cars. Meanwhile I was shocked at how many 3rd Gen Camaro OEM parts were already NLA in 1996. Those crumbly interior trim pieces that they probably could have sold a million of in perpetuity were already gone.
One of the biggest headaches I have at work right now is finding parts for an '02 Camaro. We're scavenging eBay for used parts, new is long gone and the cars aren't in junkyards anymore.
(Anybody got a steering shaft for an LS1 F-body?)
Yep, still got the parts '02 Trans Am I'm harvesting from for my '88 Camaro swap. I'll try to get some photos for you tonight or tomorrow.
In reply to Flynlow :
I was joking, but if you do have one, then that is awesome. LT1 steerinf shafts clock the steering column wrong and you cannot reposition the wheel due to the way the horn is wired.
I think manufacturers must have a hard time cutting keys after the fact. I had my luggage stolen in South America (note to self: never sleep in an airport) and in it were the keys to my C5Z. I went to my not so friendly local a$$hole Chevy dealer and after proving I owned the car (had to produce a clear title) they sent the VIN off to the mothership and a few weeks later a new key arrived. Now, this new key works fine when turned one direction, but is very notchy and only works some of the time if turned the other way. They’re supposed to be cut the same on both sides so it won’t matter which way you insert it. This is also when I learned that at some point the prior owner had re keyed the door. Not GM’s fault. I had been supplied 2 keys (one for the door and one for the ignition) and being old-school I thought that’s how it worked. I don’t know exactly when GM changed it to one key for all.
Knurled. said:In reply to Flynlow :
I was joking, but if you do have one, then that is awesome. LT1 steerinf shafts clock the steering column wrong and you cannot reposition the wheel due to the way the horn is wired.
PM sent. If this works I am officially a better parts supplier than Land Rover.
bearmtnmartin said:I called the service guy (department head) who told me that it was highly unlikely as Land Rover does not make mistakes.
Towing for Land Rover Roadside Assistance paid for much of my wedding.
DWNSHFT said:That reminds me of an old, likely apocryphal, story about Rolls Royces, to which the punch line was, "Rolls Royces never break down."
A Rolls Royce does not break down. It fails to proceed.
Toebra said:DWNSHFT said:That reminds me of an old, likely apocryphal, story about Rolls Royces, to which the punch line was, "Rolls Royces never break down."
A Rolls Royce does not break down. It fails to proceed.
No no, it decides to rest 
As long as the power remains "Sufficient" it is fine.
I believe according to rolls Royce this is when your chauffeur i supposed to start pushing.
I have to say that it all comes down to the dealership and it's management. I have worked at Wilde Lexus for 10 years and they are amazing. We share our service department with Jaguar and Land Rover and it would be damn near impossible to find an unhappy customer of any of our brands. We take care of our customers unbelievably well.
I got a very brief email from the service manager today asking for my address so they can mail a check. No apology or admission of guilt and the GM never did return my polite email either, but whatever. I will never set foot in the place again, and point them out as a shining example of how not to treat a customer.
you do not fill me with hope. I only have one key for my disco, I would like a second just in case.
In reply to mad_machine :
My local locksmith told me while fixing the problematic one that he could have sold me a new one that would have worked. I had taken an eBay dodge Ram key to him previously and he couldn't help me, but he said the generic ones he bought were programmable. But if you loose the one key you have you will be faced with a tow to the dealership and be at their mercy so I would recommend dealing with it now and not later.
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