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Desmond
Desmond HalfDork
3/18/16 1:33 p.m.

This came up in a facebook group for E36s. This guy is claiming to fill his differential with epoxy instead of welding it. He claims its not as harsh since the epoxy keeps it locked yet still allows a bit of flex.

I can't imagine this lasting very long, especially with some really sticky tires. Plus, $150 per diff seems like a fantastic ripoff. I figured I would post here and just see what you guys thought. You should have seen the hilarity that ensued on the facebook page.

Heres a pic from the FB post:

Huckleberry
Huckleberry MegaDork
3/18/16 1:35 p.m.

I... uhhh... no. Are you sure it wasn't the Audi guy?

http://www.audiforums.com/forum/off-topic-5/hey-guys-please-help-my-mods-gone-wrong-80267/

java230
java230 HalfDork
3/18/16 1:36 p.m.

Uh epoxy cures hard.... Doesn't give. Will shatter however. Pure BS.

edizzle89
edizzle89 HalfDork
3/18/16 1:41 p.m.

if you already have your diff out im almost positive any welding shop won't cost you $150 to weld it up.

and he says it doesnt drag a tire when you turn... if its not dragging a tire in a turn its not a locked diff

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt PowerDork
3/18/16 1:41 p.m.

Picture's broken, but seriously bad idea. The epoxy won't allow anything more than a degree or so difference even if he used something that was more like urethane, and there's a real danger of it shattering and coming loose inside the differential and damaging the ring and pinion.

stuart in mn
stuart in mn UltimaDork
3/18/16 1:46 p.m.

April 1 is still two weeks away...

trucke
trucke Dork
3/18/16 1:48 p.m.

This idea is fantastic, but I think expanding foam will work better!

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
3/18/16 1:51 p.m.
edizzle89 wrote: if you already have your diff out im almost positive any welding shop won't cost you $150 to weld it up.

If you don't want to take the diff out can't you just pour the epoxy in the fill hole?

Trackmouse
Trackmouse HalfDork
3/18/16 2:02 p.m.

In reply to EvanB:

My god,,, can you imagine. First we take a group of spoiled turd kids that want to be hellasfrush but aren't interested in cars enough to learn because they are glued to faceballs and then we let them buy grandpa's 325 to cut the springs (like they saw on a YouTube channel) next, we feed them a ton of bad ideas. When everything goes wrong they move on to a bro-dozer and roll coal till the EPA shuts them down. This is great, and makes me feel smarter than the 99%.

Wall-e
Wall-e GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/18/16 2:05 p.m.

That's certainly an interesting idea.

Papabear
Papabear New Reader
3/18/16 2:13 p.m.

Don't they know you lock a diff with Concrete. Also the added rear weight helps handling.

bearmtnmartin
bearmtnmartin GRM+ Memberand Dork
3/18/16 2:14 p.m.

It wouldn't shatter. I had a cracked housing on a dump truck diff that I epoxied to stop the leak. It would last about a year and then soften and peel off. The oil eventually breaks it down. But in this application I suspect it would work fine.

I have also heard of molten lead being used for the same reasons.

Furious_E
Furious_E GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
3/18/16 2:14 p.m.

Oh boy, thanks for this. I really needed a good laugh this afternoon

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/18/16 2:23 p.m.

Looks like he made a poor man's Phantom Grip...and the real thing is questionable enough.

chiodos
chiodos Dork
3/18/16 3:46 p.m.

Doesnt work, i tried jb weld on a diff that i had tried welding 3 times already and the housing was already cracked. Yeah its probably my worse automotive ideas but i was about to crush the car anyways so i didnt have much to lose. 2 miles is what it lasted, didnt even get to see if it would hold.

Moral of the story? Use a 220v welder and preheat the piss out of it. Bolts and junk jammed in the spider gears help so you use less rods/wire but ideally you pretty much want to fill the inside of the diff with welds, not just a couple beads on the spider gears.

I wasnt the hella drift type i just wanted two tires to spin instead of my usually one mile long single tire fire. Go ahead and get your laughs out at my expense its okay. Haha

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess MegaDork
3/18/16 5:15 p.m.

Epoxying your diff is absolute bullE36 M3. You need to use superglue. Everyone knows that. y0.

icaneat50eggs
icaneat50eggs Dork
3/18/16 5:22 p.m.

this is almost as good as the welded diff troll on pirate4x4

Will
Will SuperDork
3/18/16 6:12 p.m.

Man, and I thought the solution to killing diffs in my Camaro was going to have to be something drastic like swapping the 10-bolt for a 9-inch. Thanks, Internet!

codrus
codrus GRM+ Memberand Dork
3/18/16 6:45 p.m.
Dr. Hess wrote: Epoxying your diff is absolute bullE36 M3. You need to use superglue. Everyone knows that. y0.

Duct tape.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/18/16 6:56 p.m.

There aren't enough facepalm memes on the internet to adequate express how I feel.

pjbgravely
pjbgravely Reader
3/18/16 7:13 p.m.

The picture doesn't look like epoxy, it looks like a industrial strength silicone sealant. That stuff is so tough you can't cut it with a razor blade. It is just flexible enough to allow a little play but not enough to turn without problems.

44Dwarf
44Dwarf UltraDork
3/18/16 7:15 p.m.

How come it looks like hot melt glue?

HappyAndy
HappyAndy UberDork
3/18/16 8:00 p.m.

An aquantance of mine once shared a story of his father's DIY locked diff, allegedly used in a mid-seventies IMSA racer in one of the smaller engine classes. He said that he packed the inside of the diff with lead birdshot, then tack welded sheet metal over the openings to keep it inside. The Idea, so he said, was that it would act like a tight LSD until all the shot got pulverized, usually near the end of a race weekend, and if he got a post race inspection, it would be loose enough that the scrutineers wouldn't think they needed to tear it down.

I have no idea if this story is true, but I do know that his father was a legit privateer racer in the late sixties through the seventies, and known for interpreting all of life's rules loosely.

chiodos
chiodos Dork
3/18/16 8:45 p.m.

The best part is the dude is charging $150 for a half tube of glue hes probably stealing from work.

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
3/18/16 8:59 p.m.

I have an epoxied/locked diff in an e30........ Remote controlled car.

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