oldsaw wrote: In reply to codrus: A judicious use of blue-flags and penalties for ignoring them takes care of that problem. That's something the FIA has finally got right. That and field of drivers that are miles better than the likes of Bernoldi.
Call DRS contrived if you want, but it has helped a lot with that kind of thing, too.
z31maniac wrote:oldsaw wrote: In reply to codrus: A judicious use of blue-flags and penalties for ignoring them takes care of that problem. That's something the FIA has finally got right. That and field of drivers that are miles better than the likes of Bernoldi.Was the Arrows a lap down? (I don't remember)
It was not. Bernoldi and DC were racing for position, so blue flags would have been entirely inappropriate.
oldsaw wrote: In reply to codrus: A judicious use of blue-flags and penalties for ignoring them takes care of that problem. That's something the FIA has finally got right. That and field of drivers that are miles better than the likes of Bernoldi.
when racing for position blue flags don't count … if you're being lapped …yes … but for position NOPE … you can't be made to yield a position
z31maniac wrote:oldsaw wrote: In reply to codrus: A judicious use of blue-flags and penalties for ignoring them takes care of that problem. That's something the FIA has finally got right. That and field of drivers that are miles better than the likes of Bernoldi.Was the Arrows a lap down? (I don't remember)
nope … as I remember it, it was after the first pit stops … so still "racing" for position
Tom_Spangler wrote:oldsaw wrote: In reply to codrus: A judicious use of blue-flags and penalties for ignoring them takes care of that problem. That's something the FIA has finally got right. That and field of drivers that are miles better than the likes of Bernoldi.Call DRS contrived if you want, but it has helped a lot with that kind of thing, too.
except at Monaco, where is there a straight long enough to make use of it ?
Tom_Spangler wrote:oldsaw wrote: In reply to codrus: A judicious use of blue-flags and penalties for ignoring them takes care of that problem. That's something the FIA has finally got right. That and field of drivers that are miles better than the likes of Bernoldi.Call DRS contrived if you want, but it has helped a lot with that kind of thing, too.
I think it's helped in more ways than one. I think it opened up the drivers minds to the concept of passing again. I think they had all drunk the anti-kool-aid and bought into the fact you can't pass in F1 because of aero. Since DRS I think we're seeing more attempts at passing even in non DRS zones.
I think DRS was a complete joke in its first year. It just became push to guarantee a pass. Now they've got the zone start correct and it's turned into a way to set up a pass that wasn't possible a few years ago. Because of all that I'm not as anti DRS as many. Sure I'd rather they limited the dirty air to the point people could run close enough through the fast corners that it wasn't needed, but I can live with it.
Podium this week????
One more.....beautiful pic I think.......
TAParker wrote:
too many distractions in yours.....
While watching the practice I really found some interesting comments on the potential clamp down on communication to the drivers. Ric out of all the drivers made it clear that he listens, which is funny when you listen to other drivers such as his teammate that bicker rather then listen and perhaps that has something to do with this years performance and complexity of the car.
Another wild race!!!!
To avoid spoilers...The guy that often has the worse luck had better luck than the usually luckier guy, and the guy everybody hates had a heck of a run. Not sure about some of the tire strategies, but I can't really come up with anything they could have done differently to improve positions.
Yeah the one guy had a heck if a run at the end. The the other other usually lucky guy lost a lot there. And poor Mr also-ran had his car turn off.
I also didn't get some of the tire strategy run by several teams.
kvyatt not having any drink though must have been a crazy torture along with Magneson having overheating drink bottle!!!
I like the results. I am hoping for a great end to the season.
Not the best race of the seaon , but it's been a grrat season so far so I can't complain.
Streetwiseguy wrote: To avoid spoilers...The guy that often has the worse luck had better luck than the usually luckier guy, and the guy everybody hates had a heck of a run. Not sure about some of the tire strategies, but I can't really come up with anything they could have done differently to improve positions.
Pastor only finished 12th but for him that probably does count as "great".
I would have liked to see McLaren's strategy with Jensen play out. He had a new set of options saved up for the end of the race. Sadly, the long safety car and then the engine failure stopped that.
As I am new to this particular post string, I must ask:
How long until we do we wait after the race before putting the spoilers into our posts?
In reply to Advan046:
I don't think it's needed in this particular thread. This is specifically about the F1 season, so if you don't want to know, don't enter this thread. My issue is when people post new threads that give the game away, especially in the title. There was one a few months ago titled 'Ricciardo comes of age' which was obvious. Here talk away
In reply to Adrian_Thompson:
Thanks.
Hamilton - "YES finally HIS car breaks!!!" Must be a mind numbing season for him to have such massive swings in points. Failed brakes, fires, what else may come his way. I am happy that the two MB drivers are so close in the championship. I would like the double points for Abu Dhabi to be irrelevent to the championship. As in they are within 7 points of each other anyway. Now there is criticism about his pass on Vettel but I think he had to do it ASAP as it wasn't scripted that he would easily pass Vettel. For all he knew there was going to be some massive battle like his failed efforts to pass Alonso in Hungary. He should have no regrets as he didn't have hindsight to help him. Also it was near the end of a race after driving for almost 2 hours, with the last dozen laps being full qualifying mode blitz, in sweltering heat. Funny that it has been looked at so negatively it was just a pass like any other. What should he have done; follow Vettel until he got a waive by?
Red Bull - What?!? A 2-3 from the these guys was unexpected. I fully expected the Williams guys to be 3-4 but Alonso can always make gold out of that junk Ferrari so he was a thought too.
JEV - What a wonderful charge that went on with very little TV coverage. I would have liked to see him go past the 2-3 or was it 4 cars that he passed in the last few laps. Crazy. Bottas just should have let him go and defended from the other two guys behind. Not a smart move on his part but he was probably exhausted.
JB - I too wished we could have seen a safety car free race to see if JB would have finally gotten a great result and beaten his teammate.
Rosberg - Has always been on the backfoot with his image and thus his perceived value. He never could win any hearts and minds when he would beat Schumacher time and time again and now he seems to be fading into Coulthard-zone. Just the other guy in team. If he wins the championship it almost has to be after more car failures for Rosberg. That way it just might secure him some cred to have beaten Hamilton on skill not reliability. This was surely a rather devastating blow. But I suppose all of that hard slogging in the shadows has given him the experience and strength to handle these issues with more ease than Hamilton or Alonso that get so much hype. Plus all this F1 stuff is nothing compared to the good wife's smile so he just had to look at her and it was all cool.
I agree with almost all you've said except this bit
Advan046 wrote:Red Bull - What?!? A 2-3 from the these guys was unexpected. I fully expected the Williams guys to be 3-4 but Alonso can always make gold out of that junk Ferrari so he was a thought too.
I was expecting this result. Red bull have an awesome aero car with a crappy engine, Williams have deliberatly given up on aero all year to rely on the engine and speed. I think this circuit even more than Monaco relies on downforce and corner speed over straight line so it wasn't un-expected to me.
Who is bitching about Lewis's pass on Seb, and for what reason? Makes no sense to me.
Advan046 wrote: Rosberg - Has always been on the backfoot with his image and thus his perceived value. He never could win any hearts and minds when he would beat Schumacher time and time again and now he seems to be fading into Coulthard-zone. Just the other guy in team. If he wins the championship it almost has to be after more car failures for Rosberg. That way it just might secure him some cred to have beaten Hamilton on skill not reliability. This was surely a rather devastating blow. But I suppose all of that hard slogging in the shadows has given him the experience and strength to handle these issues with more ease than Hamilton or Alonso that get so much hype. Plus all this F1 stuff is nothing compared to the good wife's smile so he just had to look at her and it was all cool.
After Ros disappointing Qualifying and terrible race I wonder if he has the mental game to get back at it and beat Hamilton. I think both Ham and Ros have great skill but Ham was able to overcome a lot of obstacles. Perhaps Ros can do the same and beat him. With such a dominating car, Ros probably sees the pressure and winning this year as you never know what might happen next year.
Streetwiseguy wrote: Who is bitching about Lewis's pass on Seb, and for what reason? Makes no sense to me.
Yeah, I'm curious too. I didn't see anything weird about the pass, nor have I heard anything.
Matt B wrote:Streetwiseguy wrote: Who is bitching about Lewis's pass on Seb, and for what reason? Makes no sense to me.Yeah, I'm curious too. I didn't see anything weird about the pass, nor have I heard anything.
Maybe it isn't big news but I did read this article.
http://www1.skysports.com/f1/report/14047/9482494/sebastian-vettel-surprised-by-aggression-of-lewis-hamiltons-move-for-singapore-win
trigun7469 wrote:Advan046 wrote: Rosberg - Has always been on the backfoot with his image and thus his perceived value. He never could win any hearts and minds when he would beat Schumacher time and time again and now he seems to be fading into Coulthard-zone. Just the other guy in team. If he wins the championship it almost has to be after more car failures for Rosberg. That way it just might secure him some cred to have beaten Hamilton on skill not reliability. This was surely a rather devastating blow. But I suppose all of that hard slogging in the shadows has given him the experience and strength to handle these issues with more ease than Hamilton or Alonso that get so much hype. Plus all this F1 stuff is nothing compared to the good wife's smile so he just had to look at her and it was all cool.After Ros disappointing Qualifying and terrible race I wonder if he has the mental game to get back at it and beat Hamilton. I think both Ham and Ros have great skill but Ham was able to overcome a lot of obstacles. Perhaps Ros can do the same and beat him. With such a dominating car, Ros probably sees the pressure and winning this year as you never know what might happen next year.
Yes I think the biggest battle for Rosberg this year isn't winning the championship but being thought of as worth keeping at Mercedes or having any future option with a big team.
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