SkinnyG (Forum Supporter)
SkinnyG (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
3/29/24 12:00 p.m.

No, you don't/can't/shouldn't do this.

But.....

During a rebuild, my son's D17A1 stock cam slipped through my fingers and fell on the floor and instantly broke. There was language:

On the lathe, I threaded the broken end of the "front" half of the cam, drilled through the back two pieces, and counterbored the back of the back of the cam to fit a 9/16" socket. I also threaded some 3/8" rod:

Red locktite and some tight like a tiger, and it's fixed:

No, this will NEVER be pressed back into service, it's going back in a "dead" engine at work (our original engine when we got the car) that the cherubs work on (I stole its cam for my son's car).

golfduke
golfduke Dork
3/29/24 12:03 p.m.

I mean, I'm curious about it running for a controlled failure scenario, haha. 

 

stafford1500
stafford1500 GRM+ Memberand Dork
3/29/24 12:06 p.m.

your fix and a little weld here and there between lobes would be enough to make the engine run. May not be perfect, but I bet the breaks key'd together really nicely.

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 MegaDork
3/29/24 12:36 p.m.

You really have to test it in a running engine.  For posterity.  For science!

codrus (Forum Supporter)
codrus (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
3/29/24 12:40 p.m.

IIRC, the 2nd gen Taurus SHO (the one with the small V8) had separate cam lobes pressed onto the shaft.  While they weren't the most reliable of components, it suggests that multi-piece cams can work.

 

ShawnG
ShawnG MegaDork
3/29/24 1:05 p.m.

Should have kept it like that.

Use it to explain 1/4 race and 1/2 race cams to the students.

SkinnyG (Forum Supporter)
SkinnyG (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
3/29/24 1:32 p.m.
ShawnG said:

Should have kept it like that.

Use it to explain 1/4 race and 1/2 race cams to the students.

I already have that on the wall:

 

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/29/24 1:45 p.m.
codrus (Forum Supporter) said:

IIRC, the 2nd gen Taurus SHO (the one with the small V8) had separate cam lobes pressed onto the shaft.  While they weren't the most reliable of components, it suggests that multi-piece cams can work.

 

That's the way a large number of camshafts are made nowadays.  They sinter a bunch of lobes, slide them over a shaft, and either ram a mandrel through it or hydroform it.

 

When the tech was new, I saw someone figure that it probably saved $5 per camshaft.  The process is no doubt far cheaper now.

Peabody
Peabody MegaDork
3/29/24 2:04 p.m.

  I just degree'd a cam out of one of the newer GM 1.5T motors and it looked it like it had pressed on lobes. 
I've dropped and broken a handful of cams. Unfortunately all of them were customer cams. frown

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/29/24 3:30 p.m.

+1 for welding it and running it for science. Maybe slather the rod with JB weld for a little extra strength too?

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/29/24 6:29 p.m.
CyberEric
CyberEric SuperDork
3/31/24 9:44 a.m.

And isn't that second gen SHO V8 famous for cam issues?

That picture of the different cams had me rolling!

JBinMD
JBinMD Reader
4/1/24 3:05 a.m.
Pete. (l33t FS) said:

 

Sup with that freakishly long index finger!?  Like ET phone home, right?  

 

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