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93EXCivic
93EXCivic UltimaDork
5/7/12 9:44 a.m.

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/05/05/five-future-automotive-collectibles-if-youve-got-one-these-cars-could-be/?intcmp=features

Some one sent me this article on what this person believed would be future classics. I have a hard time believing the T-Bird and a couple of the others.

Anti-stance
Anti-stance HalfDork
5/7/12 9:54 a.m.

Yeah, no way on the Thunderbird or the Solstice. The Bullitt is also questionable. The GT and the G8 I believe will be collectibles, no doubt.

Donebrokeit
Donebrokeit Reader
5/7/12 9:55 a.m.

I would buy/ collect anyone of them except for the T-Bird.The GT40 is easy money in 30 years.

bravenrace
bravenrace UberDork
5/7/12 10:05 a.m.

I somewhat agree with all of them except maybe the T-bird. Although they may be collectible, they may or may not be highly valuable, and I'm thinking there may be cars that will be more collectible than some of them. But then again, sometimes the most collectible cars are those that nobody thought would be.

mazdeuce
mazdeuce Reader
5/7/12 10:05 a.m.

Except for the GT-40, those cars will be oddities, not particularly valuable. I actually know a guy who bought a GT-40 that he intended on driving very rarely. He loved driving it so much that he bought another one to park. Two of them. One to drive, one to appreciate. Oil men are weird.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic UltimaDork
5/7/12 10:21 a.m.
Anti-stance wrote: Yeah, no way on the Thunderbird or the Solstice. The Bullitt is also questionable. The GT and the G8 I believe will be collectibles, no doubt.

Really I thought the Solstice would be and no way on the G8 and Bullitt. The G8 is a four door and kinda boring looking and the Bullitt isn't really that different then the regular GT.

scardeal
scardeal Dork
5/7/12 10:21 a.m.

I actually only disagree with the Bullitt. It's too buried by a bazillion special edition Mustangs.

bludroptop
bludroptop SuperDork
5/7/12 10:23 a.m.

Every car will be a classic given enough time.

Value is harder to predict. Limited production helps, as does the perception that a car was innovative or has some other noteworthy pedigree.

Twenty-some years ago I thought that the MG T-series cars were a sure bet for appreciation. Not so much....

Air-cooled VWs, on the other hand, have gone through the roof.

Go figure....

Ian F
Ian F UberDork
5/7/12 10:51 a.m.

I more or les agree with them, although from what I've seen, the Ford GT is the "sure bet" as prices for those are still roughly original MSRP. I could definitely see the Solstice GXP Coupe holding it's own as well. We actually considered buying a GXP Coupe when they were new, much for the same reason - leave it original and only drive it on nice days. Unfortunately, we didn't (and still don't) have room for a car like that. I do like the Bullit, but they made quite a few of those.

The problem with any potential "modern collectible" is this list is old news. I've seen so few GXP Coupes that I'll bet most were purchased and then squirreled away as "investments."

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
5/7/12 11:07 a.m.

In reply to Anti-stance:

They made like 200 Solstice GXP Coupe's. They are already going up in price.

JFX001
JFX001 UltraDork
5/7/12 12:10 p.m.

Tough call on the T-Bird...maybe the Neiman-Marcus Edition.

If the Bullitt is to be considered as a future classic, it should be the '08 model.

B430
B430 New Reader
5/7/12 12:19 p.m.

I would've picked the 03-04 Mach1 as my future collectable mustang, but maybe that's just because I've wanted one since they were new.

ReverendDexter
ReverendDexter UltraDork
5/7/12 12:21 p.m.
JFX001 wrote: Tough call on the T-Bird...maybe the Neiman-Marcus Edition. If the Bullitt is to be considered as a future classic, it should be the '08 model.

'08s a better car, but what has value is typically what was first, so I'd expect the New Edge Bullitt to be worth more in 30 years.

Though, really, if you're banking on any modern mustang to gain value, I would go with an '03/'04 Cobra, especially an '03 10th Anniversary edition. That was a performance turnaround for the Mustang, the last of the Cobras (after that they were replaced with the Shelbys), the last of the IRS cars, the last of the fox-chassis cars, the first of the factory-supercharged Mustangs (at least for anything in the last 30 years). On top of that, they take easy to mods and most have at least something done to them, so a truly bone-stock car is rare.

JFX001
JFX001 UltraDork
5/7/12 12:39 p.m.
ReverendDexter wrote:
JFX001 wrote: Tough call on the T-Bird...maybe the Neiman-Marcus Edition. If the Bullitt is to be considered as a future classic, it should be the '08 model.
'08s a better car, but what has value is typically what was first, so I'd expect the New Edge Bullitt to be worth more in 30 years. Though, really, if you're banking on any modern mustang to gain value, I would go with an '03/'04 Cobra, especially an '03 10th Anniversary edition. That was a performance turnaround for the Mustang, the last of the Cobras (after that they were replaced with the Shelbys), the last of the IRS cars, the last of the fox-chassis cars, the first of the factory-supercharged Mustangs (at least for anything in the last 30 years). On top of that, they take easy to mods and most have at least something done to them, so a truly bone-stock car is rare.

I fully agree. Out of the cars on the list, IMHO, the '08 has a better chance given the 40th year anniversary....the '09 is milking it a bit.

'03-'04's are a sure bet.

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
5/7/12 12:41 p.m.

The 03-04 Cobra's will be the next GNX's.

dculberson
dculberson Dork
5/7/12 12:41 p.m.

I don't doubt that the Thunderbird will be a collectible car at some point, but it will probably be similar to the original T-Birds in that it's worth more than the average 4-door sedan but it's not as valuable as the really rare stuff. They made 65,000 of those things, so they're not exactly hen's teeth. You're not going to get rich by hoarding one but in 30 years you'll probably get the equivalent of $30k in today's dollars. That's my uninformed guess.

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt SuperDork
5/7/12 12:55 p.m.
B430 wrote: I would've picked the 03-04 Mach1 as my future collectable mustang, but maybe that's just because I've wanted one since they were new.

I think that's probably the best rule for predicting future classics. They'll be the cars people wanted since they were new.

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
5/7/12 1:01 p.m.

This is why people who aren't car people should just stop writing things about cars.

fast_eddie_72
fast_eddie_72 SuperDork
5/7/12 1:02 p.m.

Am I missing part of the article? I only see five but can't find a "page two".

I'd say Acura Integra GS-R. Maybe original AE86. Final gen Supras.

Putting Ford GT on a list like that is kinda useless, in my opinion.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill SuperDork
5/7/12 1:41 p.m.

Sostice already is if you look at the prices. Ford GT40 was before it hit the floor.

No way on the Tbird, G8 or Bullit.

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
5/7/12 1:47 p.m.

There will always be one or two guys looking for any car, but they're all too common, even the GT, to really be investment quality.

bastomatic
bastomatic Dork
5/7/12 1:50 p.m.

The way I saw it, the new Thunderbirds were mostly prized by the set that already coveted the original Tbirds. The people I see fawning over them are in their 60s, grey hair, and are trying to recapture their youth. Not a recipe for a classic car 20-30 years from now, when people my age have the money to burn.

Of those I think the Solstice coupe has a chance given the low production numbers. Obviously the GT as it's already collectable.

Otto Maddox
Otto Maddox SuperDork
5/7/12 1:57 p.m.
bastomatic wrote: The way I saw it, the new Thunderbirds were mostly prized by the set that already coveted the original Tbirds. The people I see fawning over them are in their 60s, grey hair, and are trying to recapture their youth. Not a recipe for a classic car 20-30 years from now, when people my age have the money to burn. Of those I think the Solstice coupe has a chance given the low production numbers. Obviously the GT as it's already collectable.

Low production numbers due to people not wanting a car generally don't help.

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
5/7/12 2:00 p.m.

The real top-5 investment cars you ask?

Answer:

  • 1989-1993 Ford Mustang 5.0 (LX, GT), stock
  • 1997-1998 & 2000-2001 Acura Integra Type-R, stock
  • 1998-2002 Chevrolet Camaro (Z/28, SS) and Pontiac Firebird (Formula, Trans Am, Firehawk), stock
  • 1993-1995 Mazda RX-7 (FD), stock
  • 1994-1996 Chevrolet Impala SS, stock

Discuss.

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
5/7/12 2:01 p.m.
Otto Maddox wrote:
bastomatic wrote: Of those I think the Solstice coupe has a chance given the low production numbers. Obviously the GT as it's already collectable.
Low production numbers due to people not wanting a car generally don't help.

They (Solstice Coupe) were not not wanted, they were just only in production for a very short time before GM pulled the plug on Pontiac. They were in very high demand, actually.

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