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Rick Goolsby
Rick Goolsby Events Manager
12/2/13 12:33 p.m.

Here are the almost nearly finalized rules for the Grassroots Motorsports $2014 Challenge. The staff thought it appropriate to put the stove on low and let these simmer overnight or so before we go live online with them.

So bon appétit!

$2014 Challenge Rules Proposal, v0.9.3

The Basics: This event is meant to be a fun editorial exercise so that Grassroots Motorsports can show to its readers what creative people can do with a car, their hands and a little cash. Cars found in violation of the spirit of the event may run for exhibition.

Competition Venue: The competition will cover three different arenas: autocross, drag racing and concours. The autocross will follow standard autocross rules. Each cone knocked over adds a 2-second penalty to the time. Competitors will be given at least four competition runs, with their fastest one counting. The drag racing will follow standard drag racing practices. Competitors will be given ample time for drag race runs, with their fastest elapsed time counting. New for 2014 will be the parc expose. Cars will be parked in a centralized location, with hoods, trunks and doors opened for the judges and competitors to view. Entrants will have a maximum of 2 minutes to present their cars and share their story with the judges. Cars will be judged on innovation, execution and presentation, and scoring will be as such:
Innovation: 0-10 points
Execution: 0-10 points
Presentation: 0-5 points

“Innovation” covers things like design, engineering, creativity and modifications.
“Execution” covers things like cleanliness, workmanship and attention to detail.
“Presentation” covers things like originality, theme, showmanship, team spirit, moxie, chutzpah, backstory or anything else that falls under the heading of “je ne sais quoi.”

Entries: Entry fee will be $150 for the entrant and vehicle. Each additional teammate/driver/banquet ticket costs $65. Thirty days prior to the event, the entry fee shall go up to $200. Cancellations will be credited to the next year’s entry.

Eligible Vehicles: Any four-wheeled, production-based vehicle that was originally sold as a passenger vehicle is allowed. (You know what this means.) Vehicles that don’t fit this category or exceed budget may be run for exhibition only.

We do not intend to exclude any past Challenge cars with these new rules. If you believe that your past Challenge car meets the spirit of the rules but not the exact letter of the new law, contact us to discuss grandfathering in your entry.

Budget: Net cost of the Challenge car and its preparation for presentation at the event must be equal to or less than a dollar amount equaling the year of the competition. Up to half the Challenge car’s purchase price may be recouped into the budget through the sale of parts originally included with or attached to the Challenge car at the time of purchase. Your purchase price of the Challenge car cannot top that year’s budget cap.

In English, what does this mean?
For 2014, the budget cap is $2014.
For 2014, the most you can recoup through parts sales is $1007.
For 2014, the max you can initially pay for a Challenge car is $2014.

Documents supporting your budget (both purchases as well as sales) must be presented to the GRM staff and also be made available to fellow competitors. We suggest putting these documents in some sort of three-ring binder. This budget book should be available during the “show” part of the event.

Costs to pick up your hooptie from the seller are exempt.

Title fees and so on, in case you bothered, are exempt.

Shipping counts toward parts prices. Sales tax does not.

These safety items are budget-exempt: seat belt or harness, roll bar padding, and your first four tires.

Any inside deals—parts, whole cars, trades, donations, stolen parts, etc.—must be added to the budget at fair market value. If you can’t figure out the value of a part, ask on the message board at grassrootsmotorsports.com.

Labor you perform yourself does not count. Any labor you pay for counts. If you run a shop and your paid employees work on the car, then it counts.

Crapcan Clause: 24 Hours of LeMons race cars are automagically legal, provided they meet the spirit of our rules.

Protesting: If you feel a competitor has skirted the rules, you can pay a $50 deposit to file a protest. GRM staff will assess the vehicle in question. If the protest is valid, the car in question is penalized at GRM staff discretion, and the protest deposit is refunded.

Appearance: Cars should have a finished appearance. Use good sense and taste when you modify your car, as missing grilles, headlights, fenders, hoods and the like are generally unattractive. Cars that are ugly will be less likely to be featured in the magazine and other media. Please remove your front license plate and plate holder, as those things are ugly, too.

Safety: Cars must meet the safety requirements of the host club and the NHRA when running those portions of the event. Your safety prep level may limit your drag race times. For a summary of NHRA’s safety rules, go to http://www.nhra.com/competition/etquickref.aspx.

Autocross safety regulations will be provided by the host club.

Vehicles that lose a wheel or send any other large or heavy item flying from their car will be disqualified from the event.

Scoring: The dynamic score from the challenge will be calculated by adding the competitor’s fastest drag time and fastest autocross time together. This will give their “dynamic time.”

The lowest dynamic time is worth 100 points. Points for second and subsequent places are determined by dividing the winning time by each other time, then multiplied by 100.

For example, if the winning combined dynamic time is 74.2 seconds and second place is 75.0 seconds, the 74.2-second driver receives 100 points, while second place gets 98.9 points (74.2/75.0 = .989 x 100 = 98.9).

The maximum parc expose score is 25 points.

Maximum possible total score is 125. Best score wins the overall trophy.

Trophies will also be awarded for the following:

Second and third overall 


First, second and third fastest drag race times

First, second and third best autocross times 


First, second and third best car show scores

Most Spectacular Failure 


Best Engineered 


Spirit of the Event

Editors’ Choice 


Challengers’ Choice

Highest Placing $1000 Car

The team that takes the overall win will receive free Challenge entry for the following year.

Rain-Outs and Other Excuses: Your first run will be first-come, first served. If you were unable to compete in any portion of the event because of mechanical failure, bad sleep habits, ennui or any other reason, you will be given an arbitrary score.

If any part of the event is rained out, struck by a meteor, invaded by a flashmob of transvestites, or otherwise seriously disrupted so that more than half the entrants don’t get a chance to compete, GRM staff may choose to discard that portion of the event from the final scoring.

JoeyM
JoeyM Mod Squad
12/2/13 12:47 p.m.
New for 2014 will be the parc expose. Cars will be parked in a centralized location, with hoods, trunks and doors opened for the judges and competitors to view. Entrants will have a maximum of 2 minutes to present their cars and share their story with the judges. Cars will be judged on innovation, execution and presentation, and scoring will be as such:

What's the rain contingency plan? (Weren't you guys planning something similar to that for this year's event?) is it the "discard that portion of the event" option?

MrJoshua
MrJoshua PowerDork
12/2/13 12:50 p.m.

To be 100% clear: roll bars count towards the budget but roll bar padding does not? Not disputing, just clarifying. :D

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
12/2/13 12:51 p.m.

Just to make sure i'm reading this correctly:

Roll bars/cages of any kind are no longer exempt, but now instead of just Kumhos, your set of 4 tires ARE exempt?

And just to get it out of the way:

There are/were cars built to the constantly changing roll bar/roll cage rules over the last couple years. (I remember Steve getting burned by the rule changes mid year after he went through great lengths to create a 100% legal exempt bolt in cage, then shortly after, that rule was lifted and cages in general became exempt.)

What will happen with these cars?

Personally, i have NOT started my roll bar install yet on my car, but i have already talked with the builder at length and was planning on doing so. Just for some added safety when competing in OLOA. Am i now faced with the decision of having to give up one of the events?

yamaha
yamaha PowerDork
12/2/13 12:55 p.m.

So wait, a full set of tires are free to the budget? Without differences made to the brand?

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
12/2/13 12:58 p.m.

In reply to Swank Force One:

From the meeting at the last Challenge, I would say yes. Also note that R-Comps are no longer required...

Also I am glad we don't have to pretend like these are street cars anymore.

MrJoshua
MrJoshua PowerDork
12/2/13 12:59 p.m.

I like the tire rule. I will probably still not buy new ones, but I like it.

mndsm
mndsm UltimaDork
12/2/13 1:00 p.m.
Swank Force One wrote: Just to make sure i'm reading this correctly: Roll bars/cages of any kind are no longer exempt, but now instead of just Kumhos, your set of 4 tires ARE exempt? And just to get it out of the way: There are/were cars built to the constantly changing roll bar/roll cage rules over the last couple years. (I remember Steve getting burned by the rule changes mid year after he went through great lengths to create a 100% legal exempt bolt in cage, then shortly after, that rule was lifted and cages in general became exempt.) What will happen with these cars? Personally, i have NOT started my roll bar install yet on my car, but i have already talked with the builder at length and was planning on doing so. Just for some added safety when competing in OLOA. Am i now faced with the decision of having to give up one of the events?

No R-comps, aaaand free tires? OE36 M3 SON! Time to get on that purple crack train.

nocones
nocones GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
12/2/13 1:02 p.m.

Ok I will ask directly. Does this mean that a 1960 Subaru 360 purchased with no windshield and without a floor section can be ran now?

Basically it appears everything about what needs to be retained from a car has been removed. So tube frame cars are now legal?

yamaha
yamaha PowerDork
12/2/13 1:02 p.m.
Rick Goolsby wrote: invaded by a flashmob of transvestites

You sir, you are winning at the internet. Its also near DC, land of the reasonably popular "Drag Race"

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
12/2/13 1:02 p.m.
mndsm wrote:
Swank Force One wrote: Just to make sure i'm reading this correctly: Roll bars/cages of any kind are no longer exempt, but now instead of just Kumhos, your set of 4 tires ARE exempt? And just to get it out of the way: There are/were cars built to the constantly changing roll bar/roll cage rules over the last couple years. (I remember Steve getting burned by the rule changes mid year after he went through great lengths to create a 100% legal exempt bolt in cage, then shortly after, that rule was lifted and cages in general became exempt.) What will happen with these cars? Personally, i have NOT started my roll bar install yet on my car, but i have already talked with the builder at length and was planning on doing so. Just for some added safety when competing in OLOA. Am i now faced with the decision of having to give up one of the events?
No R-comps, aaaand free tires? OE36 M3 SON! Time to get on that purple crack train.

Right. I'm hearing sell off my FDs for a set of diamond racing 15x10s and get me some "free" 275/35-15 A6s.

Then with my current budgeted tire dollars, grabbing a pair of steelies and some wrinklewalls for drags.

Best "$2014" car ever. Just ignore the $1300 in tires.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
12/2/13 1:02 p.m.
Swank Force One wrote: There are/were cars built to the constantly changing roll bar/roll cage rules over the last couple years. (I remember Steve getting burned by the rule changes mid year after he went through great lengths to create a 100% legal exempt bolt in cage, then shortly after, that rule was lifted and cages in general became exempt.) What will happen with these cars?

Grandfathered in.

mndsm
mndsm UltimaDork
12/2/13 1:04 p.m.
Swank Force One wrote:
mndsm wrote:
Swank Force One wrote: Just to make sure i'm reading this correctly: Roll bars/cages of any kind are no longer exempt, but now instead of just Kumhos, your set of 4 tires ARE exempt? And just to get it out of the way: There are/were cars built to the constantly changing roll bar/roll cage rules over the last couple years. (I remember Steve getting burned by the rule changes mid year after he went through great lengths to create a 100% legal exempt bolt in cage, then shortly after, that rule was lifted and cages in general became exempt.) What will happen with these cars? Personally, i have NOT started my roll bar install yet on my car, but i have already talked with the builder at length and was planning on doing so. Just for some added safety when competing in OLOA. Am i now faced with the decision of having to give up one of the events?
No R-comps, aaaand free tires? OE36 M3 SON! Time to get on that purple crack train.
Right. I'm hearing sell off my FDs for a set of diamond racing 15x10s and get me some "free" 275/35-15 A6s. Then with my current budgeted tire dollars, grabbing a pair of steelies and some wrinklewalls for drags. Best "$2014" car ever. Just ignore the $1300 in tires.

That's what I heard too.

yamaha
yamaha PowerDork
12/2/13 1:04 p.m.
nocones wrote: Ok I will ask directly. Does this mean that a 1960 Subaru 360 purchased with no windshield and without a floor section can be ran now? Basically it appears everything about what needs to be retained from a car has been removed. So tube frame cars are now legal?

Eligible Vehicles: Any four-wheeled, production-based vehicle that was originally sold as a passenger vehicle is allowed. (You know what this means.) Vehicles that don’t fit this category or exceed budget may be run for exhibition only.

By the above, I wouldn't consider that being in the spirit of the rules to be honest.

nocones
nocones GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
12/2/13 1:06 p.m.

Why stop at A6's.. Bias ply slicks (remembering that you will probably need to run SFI scattershields and driveshaft hoops).

MrJoshua
MrJoshua PowerDork
12/2/13 1:07 p.m.

Tube frame cars are not easy to build and haven't been showing up to dominate the challenge. I for one am not going to worry about the potential for the problem.

MrJoshua
MrJoshua PowerDork
12/2/13 1:09 p.m.
nocones wrote: Why stop at A6's.. Bias ply slicks (remembering that you will probably need to run SFI scattershields and driveshaft hoops).

pretty sure bias plys have been legal in the drags since the beginning.

nocones
nocones GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
12/2/13 1:10 p.m.

I agree with MrJoshua. I somewhat doubt that a tube frame car would change the world at the challenge. It's going to eat up budget building a chassis and it's doesn't inherently allow something that isn't doable with a production chassis. It just enables me to run the car that I have in my shed that I bought off of SVreX for $1 years ago.

bgkast
bgkast GRM+ Memberand Dork
12/2/13 1:11 p.m.

Boo, my locost is still exhibition only. Not that it has even the slightest chance of being finished this year, but I was hoping to eventually run it for points. It's harder than it sounds to build one on a challenge budget when you have to pay fair market value on each and every part.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
12/2/13 1:15 p.m.

We (the staff) originally envisioned a more restrictive tire rule--budget cap, etc., etc.--but based on participant feedback from our town hall meeting decided to open it up. To be honest, policing the used tires was one of the biggest headaches. Are those "used" tires really used, or did they have only one run on them? So, you get four "free" tires. Now, how do you spend them?

JoeyM
JoeyM Mod Squad
12/2/13 1:18 p.m.
bgkast wrote: Boo, my locost is still exhibition only. Not that it has even the slightest chance of being finished this year, but I was hoping to eventually run it for points. It's harder than it sounds to build one on a challenge budget when you have to pay fair market value on each and every part.

I feel your pain. My Datsun will eventually in exhibition, but never for points because it is already overbudget.

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
12/2/13 1:21 p.m.

Could i respectfully suggest that maybe the "street tire" idea that was thrown around last year might have been a better compromise?

Something like... "A set of four 180tw or higher street tires are exempt from budget. If you choose to run drag radials in the quarter mile portion of competition, both the tires AND wheels will be included in budget with proper documentation."

Opening tires up but restricting to street tires would seem to make more sense from a "Budget Competition" perspective, since there isn't a gigantic speed difference between different street tires, but there IS if you open it up to R Comp autocross tires. Those that wish to win with their wallet will buy Hoosier A6s, the end.

Dunno. Honestly, the tire thing is a bit less vexing to me and i'm sure it's not like the entire field of 40 entrants are going to go out and blow a grand or more on Ho Hos.

HappyAndy
HappyAndy SuperDork
12/2/13 1:33 p.m.

OE stock replacement brake parts are no longer exempt?

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
12/2/13 1:35 p.m.

In reply to Swank Force One:

Why would A6s be the answer? I will probably run full slicks on the Yugo. 13" size like what is used in FSAE.

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
12/2/13 1:37 p.m.
93EXCivic wrote: In reply to Swank Force One: Why would A6s be the answer? I will probably run full slicks on the Yugo. 13" size like what is used in FSAE.

Good point.

Still dumb.

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