stan
stan GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
9/18/23 5:48 p.m.

 

 I think it's from a Ford 2.3 and a four-speed. Not a very good picture, but it wouldn't be as much of a challenge if it was...

 

L5wolvesf
L5wolvesf Dork
9/18/23 6:40 p.m.

This is definitely a Ford 4 cyl bell housing. Either a 2.3 or 2.0 - I believe both are the same.

Yours is similar but different. Is there a part number?

stan
stan GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
9/18/23 7:14 p.m.

 This one has some serious grunge so where would the part number be located? 

L5wolvesf
L5wolvesf Dork
9/18/23 7:27 p.m.

On mine it is on the lower left where the clutch arm goes in.

Or under the muck at the lower right.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/18/23 8:05 p.m.
L5wolvesf said:

This is definitely a Ford 4 cyl bell housing. Either a 2.3 or 2.0 - I believe both are the same.

Yours is similar but different. Is there a part number?

2.3 has the two upper bolts higher up.

What is weird is it LOOKS like the 2.3 and 2.5 engine blocks had the lower position top bolts as used in the 2.0, but they only ever used the 2.3-specific bellhousing in practice. 

 

This is the same company that made all 429/460 from 1968 to 1997 (?) with the bellhousing pattern for the MEL 430/462 engines, but never actually used those locations either.

TurnerX19
TurnerX19 UberDork
9/18/23 10:28 p.m.

I second 4 cylinder Ford. The clutch fork and starter location. The casting style looks early 1960s English, so could be as small as a 998 CC sports racer or front engine F Junior. The Ford part is iron. What alloy is yours? it kinda looks magnesium. 

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/18/23 10:38 p.m.

In reply to TurnerX19 :

It's definitely from a Lima (2.3) engined car per the upper bolts.  Or possibly a Cologne V6.  The confusing part to me is the transmission pattern.  It is rotated, and the pattern is completely unfamiliar.  Could that be from a Capri and one of its oddball (for the US) transmissions? 

 

...or a mid engine transmission?  Very curious.

Ranger50
Ranger50 MegaDork
9/18/23 10:42 p.m.
Pete. (l33t FS) said:

In reply to TurnerX19 :

It's definitely from a Lima (2.3) engined car per the upper bolts.  The confusing part to me is the transmission pattern.  It is rotated, and the pattern is completely unfamiliar.  Could that be from a Capri and one of its oddball (for the US) transmissions? 

I was thinking merkur t9.

TurnerX19
TurnerX19 UberDork
9/19/23 7:45 a.m.

In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :

The trans end doesn't match any transaxle I know, it looks front engine. I caught the tilt too, which made me think Lola Mk2, as that had a lay over non crossflow 998. There were a few other front engine Ford juniors too. Do we know for sure that it is tall enough for the Lima? I can't tell in the photo without a ruler. I can't think of many front engine Ford cars that would use something non Ford.  Aftermarket aluminium replicas of the Ford part were available, I installed one on an Elan, which is the smaller bellhousing pattern.

L5wolvesf
L5wolvesf Dork
9/19/23 2:47 p.m.
TurnerX19
TurnerX19 UberDork
9/19/23 4:53 p.m.

In reply to L5wolvesf :

You still haven't said what material it is. It looks like black anodized magnesium on the trans face.

L5wolvesf
L5wolvesf Dork
9/19/23 5:17 p.m.

In reply to TurnerX19 :

It belongs to the OP "stan"

TurnerX19
TurnerX19 UberDork
9/19/23 5:21 p.m.

In reply to stan :

What material is this???

stan
stan GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
9/19/23 8:27 p.m.
TurnerX19 said:

In reply to stan :

What material is this???

 I was thinking (assuming) it was aluminum, but now I'm not sure. It seems fairly light. What would be the tell if it is magnesium?

Ranger50
Ranger50 MegaDork
9/19/23 8:36 p.m.

In reply to stan :

If it melts, it's aluminum if set of fire. If it makes the fire bigger, it's magnesium.

TurnerX19
TurnerX19 UberDork
9/19/23 9:21 p.m.

In reply to stan :

In an inconspicuous place take a sharp knife and scrape a few shavings onto a stone or pocelaine plate. Then ignite. Aluminum will be hard to ignite, Mag will burn easily and very white hot. If you get aluminum to burn you can extinguish it. Mag pretty much has to burn out.  Also all of the mag alloys will cut well with a stiffer feel than cast aluminum. Scrub it up and post more pics, especially dimensions across the center top to bottom. All of the Ford brand bell housings are iron, although the little ones are so thin they are not heavy. We saved 4.5 pounds with an aluminium one one the lightweight Elan I built. Not a bargain for $1000. US in 1991! 

stan
stan GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
9/19/23 9:56 p.m.
TurnerX19 said:

In reply to stan :

In an inconspicuous place take a sharp knife and scrape a few shavings onto a stone or pocelaine plate. Then ignite. Aluminum will be hard to ignite, Mag will burn easily and very white hot. If you get aluminum to burn you can extinguish it. Mag pretty much has to burn out.  Also all of the mag alloys will cut well with a stiffer feel than cast aluminum. Scrub it up and post more pics, especially dimensions across the center top to bottom. All of the Ford brand bell housings are iron, although the little ones are so thin they are not heavy. We saved 4.5 pounds with an aluminium one one the lightweight Elan I built. Not a bargain for $1000. US in 1991! 

 Cool. I'll give that a go tomorrow. Thanks.

 

 

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