stan_d
stan_d Dork
5/31/13 10:49 a.m.

Has anyone made an auto shifter with gates ? where you could bounce between 1st and 2nd then 3rd and 4th then a seperate area with a lock for P R N . In my head it sounds possible. It is for the challengr car but I want it to work too.

vwcorvette
vwcorvette GRM+ Memberand Dork
5/31/13 10:57 a.m.

TCI?

stan_d
stan_d Dork
5/31/13 10:59 a.m.

old 700r4 non electric .

Spitsix
Spitsix Reader
5/31/13 8:34 p.m.

Hurst QuarterStick

Rob_Mopar
Rob_Mopar SuperDork
5/31/13 10:17 p.m.

There are plenty of aftermarket ones, and some used ones can be found cheap at swap meets.

For junkyard options, you probably could modify a factory floor shifter with a custom gate made out of some flat stock replacing the factory gate. That is if the floor shifted 700's had gates in them.

If it's a forward valve body, I suspect you would want something like:

Press stock button on the shifter for 1-2, release for 2-3, press for 3-4, release for 4-N, press for N-R, release for R-P. That would allow bumping the shifter back and forth between 2-3 on the autocross, and full forward shifting with a sorta reverse lockout for the drag race.

Or make a hinged plate like a hasp to block the shifter from going into reverse without moving the block.

FranktheTank
FranktheTank Reader
5/31/13 10:30 p.m.

I essentially had a shaved door hinge for a reverse lockout...

HappyAndy
HappyAndy SuperDork
5/31/13 11:27 p.m.

Older Mercedes have an auto shifter with a gate like this. They work fairly well for manual gear changes.

SyntheticBlinkerFluid
SyntheticBlinkerFluid UberDork
6/1/13 12:42 a.m.

Hurst Dual Gate comes to mind.

jstand
jstand Reader
6/1/13 4:54 p.m.

It may be possible to adapt a cable shifter from a manual trans car to work. I haven't gone through all the issues, but on the surface it has potential if someone has the parts and creativity.

There would be some fabrication to connect the mechanism from the shifter to the transmission shift cable and housing.

I would start with using the forward/back movement to pull and push the shift cable. Then use the left/right movement of the shifter to move the shift cable sheath, essentially pulling/ pushing the shift cable by moving the sheath but keeping the shift cable steady.

A 5 speed manual and 3 speed auto seem the most likely match, but a 4 speed auto may be doable. The location of N, R, and P are going to be a bit odd, but that could be considered a theft deterrent.

Ranger50
Ranger50 PowerDork
6/1/13 4:59 p.m.

Ideas like these remind of these:

FranktheTank
FranktheTank Reader
6/1/13 6:24 p.m.

In reply to Ranger50:

I need one in a 6 speed now!

Gearheadotaku
Gearheadotaku GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/1/13 6:35 p.m.
Ranger50 wrote: Ideas like these remind of these:

That's my answer too.

Just think of building one for a late model car with an 8 speed auto

Console would look like a chromed porcupine.

ransom
ransom GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/1/13 6:44 p.m.

I've forgotten the name of the Hurst shifter that came in the Ranchero, but it ratchets to shift between the forward gears like a sequential box.

Haven't driven it yet, but suspect it may not be that impressive on the old C4...

Spitsix
Spitsix Reader
6/1/13 9:10 p.m.

Link

Hurst Auto/Stick 3

The trick to make them work right is to keep them dry - no lube. I rebuilt hundreds of them during my time as the "Shifty Doctor"

By the way that is NOT me in the Lightning Rod ad. It was one of the sales guys named Mike.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
6/2/13 9:53 a.m.

Interesting stuff in this thread. The equivalent of an Auto/Stick 3 that's currently in production is the Hurst V-Matic 3.

slantvaliant
slantvaliant SuperDork
6/2/13 7:46 p.m.

Gates? Who needs gates?

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