Honda announced plans today to supply the Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One team with power units starting in 2026, when F1 will implement new regulations for its powertrains:
In pursuit of its goal of achieving carbon neutrality by 2030, starting from the 2026 season, F1 will implement new regulations with an engine/electric motor maximum power output ratio of 50/50. This will …
Now will we see an F1 Edition Vantage with the NSX's V6?
In reply to j_tso :
You know, that would be really cool to see. Almost fitting since Aston Martin is getting ready to debut the next-gen DB:
Aston Martin teases next-generation DB model–and future of the brand
Since Stroll owns the high stake of both Aston F1 and cars, does this also mean a shift in the engine supplier for the cars? Maybe accord parts used to make a v12?
In reply to alfadriver :
Two J35s put together to make a 7-liter V12? Would be cool.
But I doubt it, they have an agreement with Mercedes to supply AMG powerplants, electronics, infotainment, etc. And part of that agreement includes an over-time increase in ownership stake of Aston Martin negotiated in late 2020. Right now, Merc owns about a ~10% stake.
With Honda losing its F1 attachment via Red Bull, I'm not surprised they wanted to shop around to supply power trains to somebody, just kind of a limited market.
The factory teams of Mercedes, Alpine, Alfa Romeo, Ferrari are all obviously off the table. HAAS is just Ferrari's 'C-team' behind Alfa Romeo. Red Bull and AlphaTauri are also off the table, since they're going to be Ford-powered.
So that leaves Aston Martin, Williams, and McLaren as potential suitors. All three of those teams are running Mercedes engines currently. So, peeling one away is a win for Honda and also means it's the only team that'll be running Honda engines in 2026 (so far).
In reply to DocRob :
this sets up a nice business conflict. F1 is Honda, all the rest is mercedes. Both sides race, both sides have Stroll as top owner. Given who designed the previous AML motors, Honda would be very capable.
In reply to alfadriver :
I wouldn't mind if Honda bought out Merc's stake and supply options for Aston Martin Lagonda.
alfadriver said:Since Stroll owns the high stake of both Aston F1 and cars, does this also mean a shift in the engine supplier for the cars? Maybe accord parts used to make a v12?
Knowing how they made the last V12, that would be kind of appropriate, wouldn't it? 
In reply to Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) :
Indeed.
At this point, I really want to see the car side succeed.
alfadriver said:In reply to Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) :
Indeed.
At this point, I really want to see the car side succeed.
Definitely want to see Aston succeed. They seem to be doing okay at present.
I think a baby Aston powered by the HR35TT/AR35TT would be awesome. Priced around 115k would be a sweet spot in the market for them. Call it the DBP, P for the "Poors".
We might argue that's a bit of a crowded market with the 911, C8, GT-R, well optioned Caymans, Lotus, etc. But that it is a crowded market is because it's a good market.
Plus, from a purely selfish perspective, convincing myself and the Mrs to buy a DBP will be easier when its filled with Honda parts.
In reply to DocRob :
Now I'm imagining this weird inversion where GT3 Vantages are also Honda powered in IMSA, GT America, and WEC. That would cut into HPD's NSX GT3 program though.
j_tso said:In reply to DocRob :
Now I'm imagining this weird inversion where GT3 Vantages are also Honda powered in IMSA, GT America, and WEC. That would cut into HPD's NSX GT3 program though.
Just as unlikely but I would love to see? A Honda-powered, Aston Martin GTP/LMDh car.
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