NOHOME
NOHOME Dork
4/23/13 11:33 a.m.

Curious how the Toyobaru twins are doing around the slalom cones? As much as the sport totally eludes me, since I have never been able to discern the intended path between the cones, I feel that whatever performs well on the tight twisty course, is a good indicator of what will be fun to drive on the street.

DaveEstey
DaveEstey SuperDork
4/23/13 11:47 a.m.

Hard to judge. All that I've seen so far aren't piloted by the best and the brightest.

ZOO
ZOO GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
4/23/13 11:52 a.m.

I like the nomenclature of "the twins" -- let's add that to the GRM lexicon.

We've got three in our local club. All were learning the car last year. This year I am seeing some wheel and tire upgrades, and that might begin to clarify the picture.

Apexcarver
Apexcarver PowerDork
4/23/13 11:54 a.m.

Have to agree with Dave,

I can fill in that the FRS/BRS (we pronounce furz-burrz) were popular at a recent auto-x I went to. There were about 8 of them in a 102 car field.

None were on the pointy end of the field and most were on stock tires.

Cone_Junky
Cone_Junky Dork
4/23/13 11:55 a.m.

There were at least a dozen of them at the last event I went too. pretty good times from what I saw.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
4/23/13 12:01 p.m.

From my 10yr old when asked what is the funniest joke he knows:

Why don't lobsters share?
They're shellfish

bravenrace
bravenrace PowerDork
4/23/13 12:03 p.m.

I saw that title and thought you were asking about my twin boys.

Duke
Duke PowerDork
4/23/13 12:04 p.m.

One of each flavor showed up at our most recent autocross and ran remarkably mid-pack times. I think they were both piloted by novices, however. I should have asked for a fun run in one of them.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin SuperDork
4/23/13 12:12 p.m.

Very well @ the big events. LOTS of people have the opinion that they will be the new dominant STX car.

Sky_Render
Sky_Render Dork
4/23/13 12:45 p.m.

For some reason, I thought of the twins Mia and Tia from Cars.

NOHOME
NOHOME Dork
4/23/13 1:09 p.m.

The reason I ask is because with the stock tires the car is certainly more entertaining than capable when it comes to pulling any G-forces around a corner.

I suppose a good use of my tax return could be a set of the BFG Rivals?

jstein77
jstein77 SuperDork
4/23/13 1:56 p.m.

Rivals would definitely help.

The Frisbee twins can do pretty well, and they're still early in their development cycle. Here's some results from a recent CFR event: Deland in January

Note that the first place car in RTR is listed as a Miata, but in actuality Terry was sharing Henry's BRZ and set his fastest time with it. He drove his own car slightly slower on the fourth and fifth runs. STX was won outright by an FRS by almost 2 seconds.

poopshovel
poopshovel UltimaDork
4/23/13 2:23 p.m.

(looking down pants) - Fine, I suppose? I only see one cone though, thank god.

pinchvalve
pinchvalve GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
4/23/13 2:29 p.m.

From the test that I have read, they are a set of decent tires away from being a top performer.

cdowd
cdowd Reader
4/23/13 2:31 p.m.

I saw twins and cones in the same sentence and was distracted.

Chris

Teh E36 M3
Teh E36 M3 Dork
4/23/13 3:14 p.m.
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: From my 10yr old when asked what is the funniest joke he knows: Why don't lobsters share? They're shellfish

A-balone

hotchocolate
hotchocolate New Reader
4/23/13 4:35 p.m.

I believe one just won the prosolo in New Jersey. It was driven by Pallota (?) I believe. They are competitive, but so far, the BMWs seem to be tough to beat. They are also very new. Time will tell.

wlkelley3
wlkelley3 SuperDork
4/23/13 8:42 p.m.

One of my students let me drive his on the slalom part of the school we start the season with. I took it easy as it wasn't my car and my intention was teaching more than thrashing but was faster than the student could do it. Agree, a decent set of tires away from being very competitive. Standard upgrades should put it near the top. I liked the shifter, postive feel. Seat has nice side bolster and is comfortable. And I fit in it better than any car I've driven, including my own. Usually end up with a seat adjustment compromise between feet placement on pedal, steering wheel distance and knee clearance from the dash. I'm just under 5'11" with about equal leg/torso length and not big, 180lbs. On my Miata and RX8 I have about 1" clearance between my knee and dash on both cars and wish I could get 1" closer without my knee against the dash. Would definately be high on the list to replace the RX8 in the future.
Had 2 in my class. After the school, I understand that one of the owners is replacing/upgrading the complete suspension system for track duty. Can't wait to see what it will be capable of after all that work.

Jaynen
Jaynen Dork
4/23/13 8:56 p.m.

My friend is doing pretty good in his and the only thing he had was stock crash bolts for more camber. He now has better all seasons albeit still all seasons and gained some time and has now put springs on so we will see at the next event. He's quite a bit faster than my stock NA miata on star specs ;p and I don't think its a driver issue

mazdeuce
mazdeuce Dork
4/23/13 9:41 p.m.

The better driver locally has pax'd as high as 3rd in a 100+ car field in STX with only tires. He's usually in the top 15 or so and he's really more of a rallycrosser than an autocrosser. I think the car is going to prove to be very good.

JohnyHachi6
JohnyHachi6 HalfDork
4/23/13 10:14 p.m.

I think they're going to be really limited in stock class by the lack of camber adjustment, but I could see them doing well in STX.

7pilot
7pilot Reader
4/24/13 7:54 a.m.
Sky_Render wrote: For some reason, I thought of the twins Mia and Tia from *Cars.*

I see what you did there with the "answer"

m

scardeal
scardeal Dork
4/24/13 8:39 a.m.
JohnyHachi6 wrote: I think they're going to be really limited in stock class by the lack of camber adjustment...

Well, if the "Street" proposal goes through, that shouldn't be an issue.

mazdeuce
mazdeuce Dork
4/24/13 9:47 a.m.

Reading the newest fasttrack it really looks like it's probably going to pass. They adjusted a few things, but I wouldn't be trying to decide which r-comps to run next year. The big thing will be wheel width for the twins. How wide a street tire can you functionally run on 6 inch wide wheels? Subaru or Toyota needs to offer an upgraded 8 inch wide wheel option.

moparman76_69
moparman76_69 Dork
4/24/13 10:58 a.m.

They seem to be enjoying it.

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