amg_rx7
amg_rx7 SuperDork
5/10/15 6:43 p.m.

This is a 1990s Pace Shadow trailer.

So the "bolts" in the attached pics pulled out of the sheet metal they were screwed into. I'm not sure if they are actually bolts since I didn't see any nuts behind them but the tips are not pointy for whatever it's worth. Does anyone know how to "fix" this so that the door is solidly attached?

I managed to snug the bolts down to the sheet metal but it's just a matter of time til they loosen again.

It seems like I can pry the plywood-ish interior apart to expose the back of the "bolts" and get some nuts on them. However, that is a lot of work. I've never used a nutsert but it seems like it might do the job also.

What do you guys think is the best way to fix this?

Thanks.

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
5/10/15 6:55 p.m.

A nutsert will only work if there is a thin enough material for them to go through and expand. Do the bolts thread into the plywood inner structure? If so I would use soft wood threaded inserts.

http://www.grainger.com/category/hex-drive-thread-inserts/thread-insert/fasteners/ecatalog/N-8nx

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
5/10/15 7:13 p.m.

Depending on what's on the other side of that wall, remove one bolt at a time and punch a drill through the wall. On the inside go for a fender washer and Teflon locking nut. (chrome with a covered acorn for aesthetics)

Don49
Don49 HalfDork
5/10/15 8:21 p.m.

+1 for drilling through and bolting it. I've done this and it worked well.

Hal
Hal SuperDork
5/10/15 9:21 p.m.

If the wall is plywood I would use T-nuts. Just remove the existing bolt, drill a thru hole (Will have to enlarge the hole slightly on the inside, insert T-nut from the inside and use a longer bolt.

patgizz
patgizz GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
5/10/15 9:23 p.m.

if it's anything like my trailer, they are just self tapping 3/8 bolts. on my rear door latch they pulled out so i put a washer and 3/8 nut on the backside and cranked them back down. i gather you'll need to do the same. expose the back and nut/washer them

amg_rx7
amg_rx7 SuperDork
5/10/15 10:34 p.m.
patgizz wrote: if it's anything like my trailer, they are just self tapping 3/8 bolts. on my rear door latch they pulled out so i put a washer and 3/8 nut on the backside and cranked them back down. i gather you'll need to do the same. expose the back and nut/washer them

That's what it looked like. How'd you get to the backside? I have no idea how trailers come apart.

It was an empty channel behind the bolt. The inner wood panel is an inch or two past the bolt as far as I could tell trying to peer in there.

Thanks.

DeadSkunk
DeadSkunk UltraDork
5/11/15 7:13 a.m.

Drill all the way through and see how much air gap there is between layers. If none, use longer bolts with fender washers and nuts. If there is a gap I'd take a hole saw to the inner side and remove the plywood. Put the washers and nuts on the inner side of the metal exterior, or put a sleeve in the hole and make up a plate to catch both bolts on each hinge. I'd just be wary of crushing the wall if it happens to have an air gap, that's why I'd do all this.

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