If it seems like this series has been a bit unfocused, well, it has been. While we’re pretty good at running a project car series, we’re total amateurs at building a home machine shop.
That’s why we started by learning about CAD and technical drawings before meandering our way through 3D printing, CNC routers, two (now three) different …
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Timely.
Last night I did my second project with my new Einstar scanner. S197 Subframe so that I could start working on revised LCA mount points and engine mounting.
This is the point cloud as it existed in the Einstar software -
And then a meshed STL surface model pulled into SolidWorks
I'm into it for more than you guys, but only half of a challenge car more.
DavyZ
Reader
8/9/24 3:26 p.m.
Good article on 3D scanning and quite informative as well. This is something I would love to get into and will probably do so late this year or maybe next year. The possibilities are endless, it seems, and I am looking to do more and more independently if possible. Need to buy a better welder first!
DILYSI Dave said:
Timely.
Last night I did my second project with my new Einstar scanner. S197 Subframe so that I could start working on revised LCA mount points and engine mounting.
This is the point cloud as it existed in the Einstar software -
And then a meshed STL surface model pulled into SolidWorks
I'm into it for more than you guys, but only half of a challenge car more.
What Einstar scanner? I demo'd one this winter and it was such a shining pile of poo I sent it back. Maybe they have improved it?
Also what software did you use to get the scan data from a point cloud to an STL. Can you actually do mates and other solidworks goodness with it as an STL?
I think there's only one model of Einstar. Shining has other scanners, of which Einstar is their entry level one. I have heard that the current software is way better than the earlier stuff. Also, I have a pretty healthy hot rod of a computer, which seems to be a legit prerequisite.
Used the included software (Einscan maybe?) to do the scanning, cleanup, mesh generation, and mesh cleanup, then exported as STL. I then used Meshlab to simplify it (fewer triangles, smaller file). Then imported into Solidworks as an STL surface body (versus graphic body which is the default). With that, I could orient it, create mating features, etc.
It's far from seamless, but it took me from plugging the scanner in to useful geometry in Solidworks in about 3-4 hours.
They must have improved the software, then. I had an absolute unit of a laptop running their software (MSI Vector, i9, GeForce RTX, so on so forth) and while I was trying to scan some stuff in on my Econoline van I was unable to get anything of value. I tried to scan my bench vice and even that was a bit of a boondoggle.
Probably user error, but color me unimpressed.
Sounds like you have had more success, maybe I should give it another go.
I snagged one after Dave's review of it, but haven't tried it yet. It's for work and there are some IT hurdles of course. Might just try it with a personal computer first to see if it has any merit before I fight the corporate bureaucracy.
93gsxturbo said:
They must have improved the software, then. I had an absolute unit of a laptop running their software (MSI Vector, i9, GeForce RTX, so on so forth) and while I was trying to scan some stuff in on my Econoline van I was unable to get anything of value. I tried to scan my bench vice and even that was a bit of a boondoggle.
I've used an Einstar to scan most of a car (in sections) on a machine with only 32GB ram and a GTX 1660Ti. I use some workarounds for meshing and file size management but the actual scanning goes pretty smoothly. Should note that I have not updated to the latest software version so ymmv?
kb58
UltraDork
8/10/24 4:59 p.m.
I've watched a number of YT reviews of different brands and while the hardware seems capable, most reviews contained negative comments about the supplied software. I need to see reviews where it "just works" before investing in a tool I don't really have an application for at this time.
kb58 said:
I've watched a number of YT reviews of different brands and while the hardware seems capable, most reviews contained negative comments about the supplied software. I need to see reviews where it "just works" before investing in a tool I don't really have an application for at this time.
I would love a "just works" answer. I imagine we'll get there eventually, but I also think it's a ways off, especially in the hobby space. The good news is the results I'm getting out of this $1000 hobby machine are as good as what I was getting from $500k machines a decade ago. The bad news is that the process is just as much of a PITA as it was a decade ago as well.
kb58
UltraDork
8/10/24 9:06 p.m.
Seems like Apple could produce something in this price range that would blow everything else out of the water... though that's not really their thing, lucky for everyone else.