manladypig
manladypig New Reader
3/20/19 5:10 p.m.

Never have taken off bolt hole hubs and i Dont know how to undo this weird concave thingy (used to axle nuts heh)

jfryjfry
jfryjfry HalfDork
3/20/19 5:44 p.m.

Looks like the axle to me.  which means the hub is part of the axle. 

Unless i’m wrong which is quite possible

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/20/19 5:44 p.m.

What is it on?  If it’s a live axle you should have either a c-clip to remove on the differential end of the axle shaft or a bearing retainer bolted to the axle flange behind the rotor.

iceracer
iceracer UltimaDork
3/20/19 5:49 p.m.

Looks like it could be a retaining nut that needs a special spanner to engage those to blocks.

Just a SWAG

ChasH
ChasH New Reader
3/20/19 5:55 p.m.

That's the end of the axle shaft-it doesn't unscrew nor is it removable. What are you trying to do? Is the bearing bad?

Stefan
Stefan GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/20/19 5:57 p.m.
manladypig
manladypig New Reader
3/20/19 7:49 p.m.

In reply to Stefan :

Oh okay So this is my first time working with a solid rear axle is the difference here, props for knowing it was a fiat 124. So it is impossible it seems to take the axle/hubs without having to touch the bearings, annoying. Im taking of the hubs and rotors because im taking the hubs to a machine shop to get the conversion to 4x100 studs rather than 4x98 bolt holes

manladypig
manladypig New Reader
3/20/19 8:17 p.m.

In reply to Stefan :

Okay bear with me here so with this type of press on bearing is removing the rear axle the same as it is on other solid rear axle cars? Didnt quite understand it from the forum post

Brotus7
Brotus7 HalfDork
3/20/19 8:31 p.m.

Looking at how the pumpkin installs, you have to remove the axles first before you can remove the center section.

As a comparison, look at typical American somid rear axles and you'll see a removable rear cover.  You'd pop that off to pop out the c-clip.

In this case, there's probably some sort of retaining flange you'll see once you pop off the caliper and rotor. At least, that's how I've seen it on similarly designed axles (small Datsun).

Stefan
Stefan GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/20/19 8:45 p.m.

To be honest, I’d probably get some wobble bolts to fit the 4x100 wheels to the Fiat and call it a day.

or maybe look at modern Fiat 500 wheels to see if any would fit your needs as they are 4x98 I believe.

Redrilling the hubs involved redrilling the rotors too and you get to do every time you change them.  So better have a spare set made for the shelf, etc.  if you’re upgrading to larger and/or vented rotors off a donor rig with 4x100, then redrilling would make sense.

Brotus7
Brotus7 HalfDork
3/20/19 8:45 p.m.
Brotus7 said:

Looking at how the pumpkin installs, you have to remove the axles first before you can remove the center section.

As a comparison, look at typical American somid rear axles and you'll see a removable rear cover.  You'd pop that off to pop out the c-clip.

In this case, there's probably some sort of retaining flange you'll see once you pop off the caliper and rotor. At least, that's how I've seen it on similarly designed axles (small Datsun).

Looks like Fiats are different

http://www.fiatspider.com/f15/viewtopic.php?t=6651

Brotus7
Brotus7 HalfDork
3/20/19 8:57 p.m.

Better yet, actual instructions.  Looks like it's held in with a C clip behind the axle flange if it's an older model, or 4 bolts if it's newer (like the Datsun I described above).

http://www.njfiats.org/joomla/images/stories/spider_manual/RearAxle.pdf

Then a slide hammer and Bob's your uncle.

manladypig
manladypig New Reader
3/20/19 8:59 p.m.

In reply to Stefan :

Yeah Im redoing everything brakes right now, vented rotors and bigger calipers to go with them. And I'm completely aware of all the redrilling but its a small price to pay for having cool wheels and no wobble bolts (not too comfortable with those)

Curtis
Curtis GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
3/20/19 9:10 p.m.

I think you found your answer, but yes... for the most part, axles with a removable differential housing and not a removable cover have axle retention out at the flange end.  Axles with a solid diff section and a removable cover on the back can be either, but most commonly they are a c-clip inside the differential.  The reason is, for the former style, there is no way to get into the differential unless you remove it which requires pulling the axles.

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