Lancer007
Lancer007 New Reader
11/5/13 7:18 p.m.

Not exactly what I would first think of but it's something. Could be the new era of a car guy friendly arm of the company. Theyre paying attention to the enthusiasts and that's not a bad thing these days.

http://m.autoblog.com/2013/11/05/hyundai-crate-engine-program

z31maniac
z31maniac UltimaDork
11/5/13 7:25 p.m.

$9k for the V6? That's not much cheaper than an LS3 is it?

LuxInterior
LuxInterior New Reader
11/5/13 7:40 p.m.

So this means Hyundai is the new LS?

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
11/5/13 7:44 p.m.

Bobzilla to the courtesy phone, please.

irish44j
irish44j UberDork
11/5/13 9:35 p.m.

Props for being the first person on the internet to probably ever have posted a thread with this title

Kenny_McCormic
Kenny_McCormic UltraDork
11/5/13 10:09 p.m.

This includes a standalone DI ECU, right?

old_
old_ Reader
11/5/13 10:32 p.m.

9k?

Feedyurhed
Feedyurhed Dork
11/6/13 6:42 a.m.

Hyundai/Kia...........the new Honda?

RossD
RossD PowerDork
11/6/13 7:07 a.m.

Jegs has a LS3 with 515hp and 496 ft-lbs for $8k.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UberDork
11/6/13 7:14 a.m.

Nice. As long as they drop the prices and make them "drop in ready" they'll do alright.

Hmmm.... I'm thinking a 3.8GDI in a C4. Damnit.

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/6/13 9:32 a.m.

To bad the V8 isn't on the list. A guy at work tore the oil pan off his Gen. Coupe and is looking to unload it.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UberDork
11/6/13 9:35 a.m.

Mmmmmm Tau V8 Gen Coupe......

Then again, I'd rock an LSx Gen Coupe.

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
11/6/13 2:36 p.m.

More info:

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/11/hyundai-to-sell-3-8-liter-v6-and-2-0-liter-turbo-four-as-crate-engines/

bgkast
bgkast GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
11/6/13 2:42 p.m.
Kenny_McCormic wrote: This includes a standalone DI ECU, right?

Doesn't sound like it:

TTAC said: Both engines come with intake manifolds, ignition coil packs, injectors and fuel rails. The turbo ready four was developed for those tuners planning to use larger turbochargers than the stock unit.

Good luck controling that direct injecton!

z31maniac
z31maniac UltimaDork
11/6/13 2:52 p.m.

I know nothing about stand alone engine management, but commonly read DI is the big problem on new engines.

What is it about DI that makes it so hard to control?

yamaha
yamaha PowerDork
11/6/13 2:57 p.m.

In reply to z31maniac:

Alfa or Adrian will surely fill you in on this one if you ask......its been discussed here alot recently.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UberDork
11/6/13 3:04 p.m.
z31maniac wrote: I know nothing about stand alone engine management, but commonly read DI is the big problem on new engines. What is it about DI that makes it so hard to control?

There's lift pumps, pressure pumps and the precise control over injector timing since it needs to be shot into the cylinder at the exact time, with the exact mixture/etc. It has to be a lot more precise than shoving fuel into an intake runner and letting the cylinder suck it in.

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury MegaDork
11/6/13 3:30 p.m.
Bobzilla wrote:
z31maniac wrote: I know nothing about stand alone engine management, but commonly read DI is the big problem on new engines. What is it about DI that makes it so hard to control?
There's lift pumps, pressure pumps and the precise control over injector timing since it needs to be shot into the cylinder at the exact time, with the exact mixture/etc. It has to be a lot more precise than shoving fuel into an intake runner and letting the cylinder suck it in.

And, IIRC, they require ridiculously high fuel pump pressures at a high flow rate.

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