Hyundai Genesis Coupe?

Anybody else gotten close to one yet? After being disappointed with the Camaro and RX-8 I got to take a close look at one in Medford this weekend. Wow! In person the car is gorgeous! There's subtle bodylines and little details and the car draws a serious crowd (in Tskuba Red?). It was the V6 GT (so no Brembo's/LSD) but they have a baseball mitt color interior that just looks The interior surprised me the most. It was very high quality (nicer than the new Camaro, RX-8, and GTO), in fact probably the nicest my poor butt has ever sat in outside of something from Stuggart. The controls felt excellent and the seats were exquisite.

Alas I didn't have the opportunity to drive it, but now I really don't want to because I'll probably do something stupid like buy one. It was nice enough to make even me think about payments again. I was all for the 2.0T but after hearing and seeing the V6 I think I'd swing that way. I graduate from college (finally) with my Bachelors (already did the AA) in May, so I think I'll start counting pennies...

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one that had that reaction.

Reading reviews of it compared to the '10 Mustang, Camaro, and 370Z has tempered my desire for it, but, man, sitting in those things...

...they're just nice.

That's what's killing me! When I do graduate more then likely I'll have to commute to Vancouver/Portland (~50 miles each way, daily) and I want to do that somewhere, nice. The bonuses that it actually looks good (and modern!), has a sweet warranty, and realistically isn't all that expensive sweeten the already good pot of performance. It's also a good bit lighter than most of it's competition and goes pretty darn fast. Of all cars for me to fall in love with...

We had a 2.0T Track model show up at last Saturday's auto-x event in G Stock. The driver decided to wring it out for fun; it won't be his main auto-x car. His impressions of it:

-His impressions of it on our local SCCA forum

He told me the stock tires suck, but replacements are expensive. He says could buy a set of 17" Enkeis for less than a set of 19" R-comps. There's a "sweet spot" for the engine as it falls off of max. boost very quickly from 13psi to 8psi. His times were actually worse than mine, and I'm a backmarker in E Stock, but I think that can be attributed to his inexperience with the car and the course being very fast- this was the first time I've had to shift to third in my RX-7 at an event. He did say it was very fun and easy to drive. Here are some pics:

Source: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nowin/sets/72157619120222716/

In between the 19's, the spoiler, and the black only interior I'm starting to think the GT might be better and just swap in the Torsen. The factory brakes certainly look beefy? I haven't seen the gray yet, very nice.

I agree with you, it looks great in person. That gray is very nice. IIRC, the fronts are Brembo 4-pots, so I'm sure it brakes well. He said Cobb Tuning and AEM are already working on ECU tweaks (standalone Cobb, piggyback AEM), so those should help with the issue of boost falling off.

According to him, his is the first 2.0T Track model to be sold in MA. Most of the rest are V-6/auto. I'm still wating for the R-Spec (and money to afford one), but I'm also interested to see if Hyundai will eventually make 17s or 18s an option. Aiming an affordable car at enthusiats that requires unaffordable tires doesn't sound right to me.

A genesis won GS at the Blytheville National Tour.

The 3.8 GT comes with 18's and no Brembos or LSD. It's what I sat in/started up and the 6-Speed manual felt nice.

Wait for the 2.0TR that's going to be the smoker, and the tunability of that turbo engine

That's on the short list for new cars when I get back

Weird that a Ford Fiesta, and a genesis are on my list.

Knowing me I'd go for the Coupe.

I saw one today I actually did a complete 180 with my neck to see it better, and I love it. Much larger than I thought it'd be though.

Haven't driven the Coupe yet, but drove the sedan and was suitably impressed.

The coupe is gorgeous.

RexSeven wrote:

Funny, I just thought out loud, "hey, that looks like Devens!" Was a fun course when I last raced it in '01.

/side jaunt

Neat car. Far out of my price range but I'd love to have one as a daily.

I HEARD one the other day, and was flabbergasted. (3.8GT) Absolutely exquisite sounding. Seriously, I never would've guessed it was coming from that "that nice Hyundai".

Nathan

DILYSI Dave wrote: A genesis won GS at the Blytheville National Tour.

WHOA WHOA WHOA.... wait, WHAT?!? Holy hell...

Rockin' the crooked H long before it was cool!

Bobzilla wrote:

DILYSI Dave wrote: A genesis won GS at the Blytheville National Tour.

WHOA WHOA WHOA.... wait, WHAT?!? Holy hell... Rockin' the crooked H long before it was cool!

DOH! I was wrong. It ended up second. Still took a trophy though.

First NT for Hyundai... wait, no.... First trophy at a NT for Hyundai! AWESOME! My Elantra was DEAD last 12 seconds behind the leader at last years Peru NT.

Was the trophy winner a 2.0T or a 3.8?

GS = 2.0T FS = 3.8

So nobody else has gotten close to one of these?

I am afraid to. I do not want to want it

I do not see what the hype is with these cars. I admit they have the looks and RWD running for them, but that is it. The R-Spec model is what I would be interested in, but the performance is horrible. The 2.0T is slower to 60, and through the quarter than my gutless 2008 4-door Si. This is with more torque and rwd advantage. Skidpad and slalom are also dismal. I bet the brembos would do nicely though. Potential, potential... you can tune any car to be faster. Boosted cars are easy to make power with, you could probably eventually up this bad boy to 300whp fairly easily, but then you are looking at another 1k$ or two (exhaust, intake, dp, tuning?). Personally, NA guy. I would pay the premium for the 370z. Different class IMO. Or if you are looking bang for buck MS3 or the unfortunately short lived turbo SS. Hell the old SRT-4 would walk circles around this car stock, after it was "tuned".

I have also followed the AMS blog about this car, seems they are not the easy turbo cars of yester-year to tune. No more intake and exhaust yielding 20whp/40lbft. Oh wait, you can do that with the MS3 and WRX. Not to mention if you read reviews, they seem to have inconsistent performance due to the overprotective engine management. Personally, I have an autox and road race bias. My car will run hard all day and engine wont go into limp mode, or screw up launches, or reduce rev limit. I dont know, this is what I have come up with with all the reviews, tests and videos I have seen. Im open minded and prefer RWD, but I think this car is over hyped. Verdict will have to be finalized with the R-Spec. For now it has not warranted even a test drive with the dealer next door.

^dAMN.... someone was sippin' the haterade.

rwdsport wrote: I do not see what the hype is with these cars. I admit they have the looks and RWD running for them, but that is it. The R-Spec model is what I would be interested in, but the performance is horrible. The 2.0T is slower to 60, and through the quarter than my gutless 2008 4-door Si. This is with more torque and rwd advantage. Skidpad and slalom are also dismal. I bet the brembos would do nicely though. Potential, potential... you can tune any car to be faster. Boosted cars are easy to make power with, you could probably eventually up this bad boy to 300whp fairly easily, but then you are looking at another 1k$ or two (exhaust, intake, dp, tuning?). Personally, NA guy. I would pay the premium for the 370z. Different class IMO. Or if you are looking bang for buck MS3 or the unfortunately short lived turbo SS. Hell the old SRT-4 would walk circles around this car stock, after it was "tuned". I have also followed the AMS blog about this car, seems they are not the easy turbo cars of yester-year to tune. No more intake and exhaust yielding 20whp/40lbft. Oh wait, you can do that with the MS3 and WRX. Not to mention if you read reviews, they seem to have inconsistent performance due to the overprotective engine management. Personally, I have an autox and road race bias. My car will run hard all day and engine wont go into limp mode, or screw up launches, or reduce rev limit. I dont know, this is what I have come up with with all the reviews, tests and videos I have seen. Im open minded and prefer RWD, but I think this car is over hyped. Verdict will have to be finalized with the R-Spec. For now it has not warranted even a test drive with the dealer next door.

Hyundai doesn't want the 2.0T to be faster than their PREMIUM 3.8L GT. If you are comparing dyno numbers the GC is having the same problem on the dyno the MS3 is having unrepeatable numbers and a OE program that does it's best to max out the primary tune. If you look into the numbers a few tuners have made astounding numbers out of the V6 car...

If they only made a 3.8L light weight AX edition. Cloth seats w/o air bags, manual 6, Torsen, base stereo, hot fuel/ignition tune, solid roof... a 370z from Korea. That would be the car I would be interested in.

I liked this one.

/\ Didn't that one have a modified VQ engine for a while? I think they ran the first three races of the formula drift series with the VQ.

Edit: Found it

I sat in one at the dealership. If I were able to afford the car, I'd have it parked in my driveway now. The car fit me like a glove, which is something that's hard for me to find. I'd also prefer a lower trim V6 instead of the turbo 4, but I think we're in the minority.