Tom Suddard said:
IDK about where you live, but in some places it's pretty much standard when you have a truck detailed for used car lot sale for the rusty frame to be sprayed with cheap black paint. Like, "you want the carpets shampooed and the frame painted, right?"
Up here, it's kinda frowned upon by people who know what they're looking at. If the frame is good and not crusty, then you want to show it off in it's natural state. As soon as I see paint or undercoating, I dig deep because I instantly assume they're covering something they don't want me to see.
When I was shopping for my last truck, I straight-up walked away from a Tundra before even getting within 20 feet of it because I saw fresh undercoating on the frame. Toyota + undercoated frame = not even worth me bending over to look under it.
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) said:
Tom Suddard said:
IDK about where you live, but in some places it's pretty much standard when you have a truck detailed for used car lot sale for the rusty frame to be sprayed with cheap black paint. Like, "you want the carpets shampooed and the frame painted, right?"
Up here, it's kinda frowned upon by people who know what they're looking at. If the frame is good and not crusty, then you want to show it off in it's natural state. As soon as I see paint or undercoating, I dig deep because I instantly assume they're covering something they don't want me to see.
What Curtis said. If you've lived in an area where rust is a problem, it's better to leave the frame in a natural state. Plus, putting paint on it without taking the frame down to bare metal again just makes it rust faster.
Yeah, up here in the Northeast, if people that care about their vehicles treat frames at all, it's either with some homemade "old man" concoction of used motor oil and/or other goop, or Fluid Film. I'd run away from a haphazardly undercoated spray-bombed frame too!
Another interesting tidbit: Not everyone up here salts the roads. I know MA does, but I'm pretty sure Maine uses sand only. Every time I go up there, it's all newer Subarus and weird, old stuff running around that time forgot. That's the only reason my 40+ year old truck still exists; it came from Maine. The frame on it looks nicer than the frame on most 10 year old trucks here.
Painted frames and aftermarket fender flares. Both are probably hiding rust.
The Nissan Pro 4x I linked above sold. The seller tried to get me to come in and look at a 2WD truck. Heh.
The next possible candidate. High miles, but I snuck on the lot and looked at the frame. It's minty. So are the brackets, suspension, fasteners, etc. The Carfax shows it coming from Arkansas.
This is also some kind of appearance package- the ROCK WARRIOR!
I like it better, since there aren't chrome bumpers, but yes, the back bumper is supposed to be black and the front is supposed to be body color. The wheels are forged 17" TRDs. They look so small.
An observation:
Raleigh is a crappy area in which to try to buy a truck. The demand is always high. I sold the Terrible Truck without much effort at all, and even wrecked trucks at the CoPart insurance auction fetch decent money. This demand seems to stretch about 90 miles anywhere outside of Raleigh.
I've started considering a road trip to get a truck.
When you find this magical market of clean, reasonably priced trucks...
This is not factual but I have a feeling that Nashville or even Tennessee as a whole might have more Nissan Titans than most areas given the whole Nissan HQ and perhaps a stronger market share than many other places.
Doesn't mean they're cheaper, just more available.
The Titian is actually assembled in Canton, MS (northern suburb of Jackson, MS) so, maybe there too.
I had my wife come with me to check out the Tundra at lunch.
She never wants to drive it because it's too big and she had trouble getting everything sorted out so she could reach the pedals and see out of it. I was kind of afraid that was going to happen. In a full size, that means moving up to a trim with adjustable pedals, radar, backup camera, etc, which means a big upswing in price.
So, now we may be back to a newer Colorado sized truck or a supplemental cheap-ass truck and a newer SUV,
I know the mid level Titans had adjustable pedals. They also added the proximity sensors to the mid level models at some point.
Brett_Murphy (Ex-Patrón) said:
An observation:
Raleigh is a crappy area in which to try to buy a truck. The demand is always high. I sold the Terrible Truck without much effort at all, and even wrecked trucks at the CoPart insurance auction fetch decent money. This demand seems to stretch about 90 miles anywhere outside of Raleigh.
I've started considering a road trip to get a truck.
I drove 8 hours for my last purchase from PA to NC. My inspection mechanic back here in PA couldn't believe how un-cancerous it was.
Boost_Crazy said:
I know the mid level Titans had adjustable pedals. They also added the proximity sensors to the mid level models at some point.
This trim is an SR5 with an appearance and suspension package vs a luxury package. I was just telling her about those features a few minutes ago. Apparently those items would change the equation in their favor.
Oh, I was also really surprised at how "small" that Tundra drove. It didn't drive like a big truck at all.
Looked at this today. It's not what we started looking at, but it'll do many of the things we want to do, and they're about at the bottom of the depreciation curve.
1999, no rust, 5.3 V8, 4x4 and my wife can get into the bed without having to jump. Has a few things wrong with it, I have to figure out how little I'm going to offer them.
I hate the wheels. Hate them.
It's funny to em how cheap single cabs can be and how expensive 4doors are. The real bargain in trucks in generally what no one wants which is single cab, V6, rwd-only. Yet, this one is V8 and 4x4 so that will increase its desirability and therefore it's price.
Are the wheels really chrome or are those plastic covers? With the chrome door handles and chrome rail tubes at least there is a theme.
John Welsh said:
It's funny to em how cheap single cabs can be and how expensive 4doors are. The real bargain in trucks in generally what no one wants which is single cab, V6, rwd-only. Yet, this one is V8 and 4x4 so that will increase its desirability and therefore it's price.
Are the wheels really chrome or are those plastic covers? With the chrome door handles and chrome rail tubes at least there is a theme.
You know, I didn't even know wheel skins were a thing. I'll have to take another look at those wheels to be 100% sure.
The result of this search turned out differently than we planned.
My wife didn't like the how big the full sized trucks are, and finding a mid-sized truck that met our requirements (including the importance of the color, which my wife added later) was difficult unless we ordered one new.
So, we're keeping the 4Runner and I picked up a stop-gap truck. The new truck will get put to use shortly as we tear down the deck and put in a patio.
