Steve_Jones said:
In reply to frenchyd :
You replied 2 times after that post and only got "insulted" after someone else called him out. Since you waited 90 mins and 2 posts later, I don't believe you really cared about it at all.
I understand that from your perspective.
The reality is I have things to do other than this. I don't know the lapse between posts. ( I don't care) I did debate with myself whether to ignore the insults. In the end I choose a polite reminder rather than a direct insult. Yes, I turned the other cheek.
kevlarcorolla said:
I see buying a used chevy bolt mentioned a bunch as a way into the EV market on the "cheap".
Just looked in my area up here in Canada,a 3 to 4 yr old bolt asking price is pretty close to new GTi money.
Not possible to stuff enough rocks into my head to think a used bolt wins in that scenerio.
Seemed like a good time for something other then the current back and forth :)
I suspect that has something to do with the US $7500 tax rebate even used it is about $3500 .
Here in America a new Bolt is US $28000
ProDarwin said:
SV reX said:
Since 2018, Tesla has produced 4,350,040 cars. They have sold 4,251,836 cars. That's a shortage of 98,204 cars. Which means there is over $5 billion missing from their books. Could be up to $10 billion.
I wonder how many Ford (or other manufacturer) cars are sitting on lots around the country. Is 78k a lot or a little? In the short term most manufacturers make more than they sell in order to have some inventory.
A quick googling shows that Ford inventory is Ford Motor inventory for the quarter ending March 31, 2023 was $16.212B
Thats for all stages of completion, but if you told me $5B of that was trucks I might believe it.
In reply to frenchyd :
Base bolt here is 32k I think,anything ev and not base model here is 50k in a heartbeat....15% sales tax on top.
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) said:
kevlarcorolla said:
I see buying a used chevy bolt mentioned a bunch as a way into the EV market on the "cheap".
Just looked in my area up here in Canada,a 3 to 4 yr old bolt asking price is pretty close to new GTi money.
Not possible to stuff enough rocks into my head to think a used bolt wins in that scenerio.
Seemed like a good time for something other then the current back and forth :)
And which one is more fun to drive? I really came so close to a Bolt, then a Fit, but ended up with a Civic Si. I will readily admit I want cars that are fun to drive.
How often do you change cars? Frankly the savings in EV's are not overnight. Since that is the prime value of them other than transport Your choice is your choice.
In reply to kevlarcorolla :
While gasoline is the price it is. I'll use an EV.
I used to drive 65-85,000 miles a year. I could still do that with the right EVv
frenchyd said:
In reply to kevlarcorolla :
While gasoline is the price it is. I'll use an EV.
I used to drive 65-85,000 miles a year. I could still do that with the right EVv
I dare you! Buy an EV! Drive it 65k a year and post a blog, vlog or make a YouTube channel about it! Your pro EV rants here will change so quick. I'd love to see you put your money where your mouth is on this. I will pay for half your new GoPro camera too!
In reply to Tom1200 :
$1000 will get you a generator capable of 50 amps. That's level 2 charge territory so 15-20 miles of charge in 30 minutes or so.
Mount it in the service truck that they already have for jump starts and battery swaps and it's MIB for minimal cash spent.
Tom1200 said:
In reply to Toyman! :
I personally think it would be easier for a rollback to transport it to a place with a charging station.
Usually if I was called to a car that ran out of gas I'd just tow them to the nearest station anyway. We charged the same and I didn't have to stop, fill a gas can, then hear about how we were overcharging per gallon, not doing any actual work, etc...
It won't be long before the generator is just integrated into the tow truck drivetrain. No point in carrying around an extra engine.
honestly make the tow truck a hybrid and add a charging port.
frenchyd said:
In reply to kevlarcorolla :
While gasoline is the price it is. I'll use an EV.
I used to drive 65-85,000 miles a year. I could still do that with the right EVv
No, you won't because YOU DON'T EVEN OWN A berkeleyING EV.
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) said:
frenchyd said:
In reply to kevlarcorolla :
While gasoline is the price it is. I'll use an EV.
I used to drive 65-85,000 miles a year. I could still do that with the right EVv
I dare you! Buy an EV! Drive it 65k a year and post a blog, vlog or make a YouTube channel about it! Your pro EV rants here will change so quick. I'd love to see you put your money where your mouth is on this. I will pay for half your new GoPro camera too!
I fully intend to post it here just like others who own them have done. If you are so eager to learn about them. Go to Kieth Tanner's posts about his series 3 Tesla.
Or go on UTube and read about Tesla owners who solved their range anxiety Just by driving them.
Spend a few minutes watching someone getting the last 6 miles of range out of his and then driving away 25 minutes later fully charged.
The screen that shows you range also shows you were the next Tesla super charger is and how many are available right now. It also keeps track of what you spend.
I have never seen someone who doesn't even own the product nor even used the product mindlessly promote a company like this.
At least my Korean car humping is from 20 years of experience.
Toyman! said:
In reply to Tom1200 :
$1000 will get you a generator capable of 50 amps. That's level 2 charge territory so 15-20 miles of charge in 30 minutes or so.
Mount it in the service truck that they already have for jump starts and battery swaps and it's MIB for minimal cash spent.
You assume he has a service truck. Or one that he wants to make that sort of investment in?
Some people who own places like that are very forward thinking. When we were selling Wind generators. One I sold went to a big fuel station that was paying more than the monthly cost of a wind generator. And paid for it in 18 months.
bobzilla said:
frenchyd said:
In reply to kevlarcorolla :
While gasoline is the price it is. I'll use an EV.
I used to drive 65-85,000 miles a year. I could still do that with the right EVv
No, you won't because YOU DON'T EVEN OWN A berkeleyING EV.
Patience Grasshopper. I'll let you know as soon as Tesla opens up orders for the model 2. Then you can follow along will details about delivery and costs.
In reply to frenchyd :
Trust me I won't. You may have single handedly turned me away from anything electric. Congrats. I think I'll go idle all my cars for a couple hours tonight when I get home, light some tires on fire and turn on ever light in the house in your honor.
frenchyd said:
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) said:
frenchyd said:
In reply to kevlarcorolla :
While gasoline is the price it is. I'll use an EV.
I used to drive 65-85,000 miles a year. I could still do that with the right EVv
I dare you! Buy an EV! Drive it 65k a year and post a blog, vlog or make a YouTube channel about it! Your pro EV rants here will change so quick. I'd love to see you put your money where your mouth is on this. I will pay for half your new GoPro camera too!
I fully intend to post it here just like others who own them have done. If you are so eager to learn about them. Go to Kieth Tanner's posts about his series 3 Tesla.
Or go on UTube and read about Tesla owners who solved their range anxiety Just by driving them.
Spend a few minutes watching someone getting the last 6 miles of range out of his and then driving away 25 minutes later fully charged.
The screen that shows you range also shows you were the next Tesla super charger is and how many are available right now. It also keeps track of what you spend.
I'm not asking about their experiences. I want to see you put your money where your mouth is and drive one 65k to 85k miles a year. I now double dog dare you. This is about you backing up all your pontifications and wild claims by putting your own skin in the game!
STM317
PowerDork
7/17/23 9:15 a.m.
frenchyd said:
Spend a few minutes watching someone getting the last 6 miles of range out of his and then driving away 25 minutes later fully charged.
This never happened. Super fast charging only occurs when the battery isn't super low or high in capacity (generally between 20% charge and 80% charge will give you the fastest charging speeds). Charging slows down a lot if capacity is close to "empty" or close to "full".
Please educate yourself instead of continuing to spread bad info:
https://insideevs.com/news/555406/charging-curve-peak-rate/
https://evkx.net/models/tesla/model_3/model_3_long_range/chargingcurve/
IF you get the right Level 3 DC fast charger (not all DC fast chargers or even all Superchargers have the same charging speeds) in the right conditions, you could theoretically charge a Model 3 Long Range from 0-100% charge in a little over an hour. If ambient temps are too high or too low, that time will be extended because the vehicle uses some of the energy to manage the temperature of the battery.
In reply to STM317 :
Don't go bringing facts and reality into this fantasy bating session.
Tom1200
PowerDork
7/17/23 12:08 p.m.
In reply to racerfink :
Yes, and if it keeps up this could go another 97 pages
In reply to Tom1200 :
I don't think so. I think everyone is getting tired of the troll-posts.
frenchyd said:
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) said:
frenchyd said:
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) said:
frenchyd said:
In reply to kevlarcorolla :
While gasoline is the price it is. I'll use an EV.
I used to drive 65-85,000 miles a year. I could still do that with the right EVv
I dare you! Buy an EV! Drive it 65k a year and post a blog, vlog or make a YouTube channel about it! Your pro EV rants here will change so quick. I'd love to see you put your money where your mouth is on this. I will pay for half your new GoPro camera too!
I fully intend to post it here just like others who own them have done. If you are so eager to learn about them. Go to Kieth Tanner's posts about his series 3 Tesla.
Or go on UTube and read about Tesla owners who solved their range anxiety Just by driving them.
Spend a few minutes watching someone getting the last 6 miles of range out of his and then driving away 25 minutes later fully charged.
The screen that shows you range also shows you were the next Tesla super charger is and how many are available right now. It also keeps track of what you spend.
I'm not asking about their experiences. I want to see you put your money where your mouth is and drive one 65k to 85k miles a year. I now double dog dare you. This is about you backing up all your pontifications and wild claims by putting your own skin in the game!
Just as soon as you put your money where your mouth is.
When I was putting those miles on I was earning solid 6 figures in income and all expenses paid including a car allowance great enough for me to profit from high mileage.
Send me checks to that extent and I will return to those hours.
Other wise wait Grasshoper.
So now I have to pay for it all? You make all these claims, and I'm supposed to pick up the tab? What about all that money "solar" and "EVs" are going to save you? Surely you can just use that! Get with it already!
I did put my money where my mouth is. I live in a very energy efficient modern house, have an electric mower (great application) and drive a car that gets 41 mpg to get to and from work.
Maybe you should call your buddy Elon and see if he will bankroll you for free advertising.
So your claim that you could drive an EV 65k to 85k mikes a year is pure rubbish? I'm shocked!
