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sporqster
sporqster Reader
1/10/13 11:00 p.m.
Driven5 wrote: Just a CRAZY thought...But why not simply install non-overpowered headlights for road use??

Because the OEM headlight doesn't fit now that I've made a bracket for the redonkulous bright LED's. And the redonkulous bright LED's were FREE courtesy of my sponsor Grote.

Have I mentioned that Grote is awesome in this post yet? Oh, yeah, Grote is awesome.

ditchdigger
ditchdigger SuperDork
1/10/13 11:08 p.m.

Another tidbit that seems to be forgotten about. Motorists are not the only folks out there. Cyclists, pedestrians, wildlife....ect are all going to be suffering from temporary blindness whenever any car with excessive lighting points at them.

Driven5
Driven5 New Reader
1/11/13 12:33 a.m.
sporqster wrote: Because the OEM headlight doesn't fit now that I've made a bracket for the redonkulous bright LED's. And the redonkulous bright LED's were FREE courtesy of my sponsor Grote. Have I mentioned that Grote is awesome in this post yet? Oh, yeah, Grote is awesome.

Grote: "The first name in vehicle safety systems."

Ironic, since what they're marketing through your car would seem to be anything but. Lighting that is selfishly inconsiderate at best, and actually dangerous at worst, to all the other people that are forced to share the roads with your car is anything but "awesome" in my humble opinion...Regardless of how free it may have been. If the first name in safety isn't willing to provide your car with responsible forward lighting, I'm sure a smart guy like yourself could have at least figured out a way to additionally fit some 'lesser' output non-OEM forward lighting if it was absolutely impossible find a way to mount them in conjunction with the OEM lights.

Do those LED's even produce any type of automotive legal (DOT or European) headlight pattern? Since those appear to just be their standard 'Trilliant work lamps', I'm guessing not. If that is indeed what they are, work lights are quite simply not headlights. Are your sponsors aware of how their lighting is being used on your car, and as a result how their company is being represented? Their sponsorship of your car may have informed me of their existence as a supplier, but is currently also working counter productively as it's simultaneously making me specifically desire to avoid purchasing lighting for my project from them due to this lack of consideration and common sense.

NOHOME
NOHOME Dork
1/11/13 5:26 a.m.

The logical conclusion is to take it to the point where the windscreen is replaced with a digital display like a huge TV picture; that means all kind of sensing could be employed and there would be no difference between day and night driving. Or any other sort of ambient visual effects.

With Grand Turismo and Grand Theft being the dominant forms of driver education, this is a natural. Get rid of the steering wheel while you are at it; replace with game controller or iphone.

jeongyun
jeongyun New Reader
1/11/13 7:15 a.m.

Polarized glass typically loses about 50-75% of light. Remember, 3D glasses are polarized. (not the red/blue ones)

N Sperlo
N Sperlo UltimaDork
1/11/13 7:24 a.m.

Hah. I'm glad you guys took my 3D suggestion so cerealy.

Sky_Render
Sky_Render HalfDork
1/11/13 8:12 a.m.
sporqster wrote: In reply to Sky_Render: Then it would be no worse than it is today without the tint

So you're saying that once every does this, things will be exactly the same as they are now.

sporqster
sporqster Reader
1/11/13 8:29 a.m.
Driven5 wrote: Ironic, since what they're marketing through your car would seem to be anything but. Lighting that is selfishly inconsiderate at best, and actually dangerous at worst, to all the other people that are forced to share the roads with your car is anything but "awesome" in my humble opinion... Do those LED's even produce any type of automotive legal (DOT or European) headlight pattern? Since those appear to just be their standard 'Trilliant work lamps', I'm guessing not. If that is indeed what they are, work lights are quite simply not headlights. Are your sponsors aware of how their lighting is being used on your car, and as a result how their company is being represented? Their sponsorship of your car may have informed me of their existence as a supplier, but is currently also working counter productively as it's simultaneously making me specifically desire to avoid purchasing lighting for my project from them due to this lack of consideration and common sense.

The sponsor's intention is for them to be race only lighting, not for street use, and that is what they are. And yes I do have several development lens variations for them that vary their pattern from the OEM pattern for better road illumination. I'm just trying to see what I can do with them 'off the books' to not blind people for test drives, this seemed at the time of original posting a novel idea. Geez, lighten up guy.

And 'marketing through my car' would be better described as 'doing a favor for a friend of a friend with some surplus sample lights'.

sporqster
sporqster Reader
1/11/13 8:42 a.m.
Sky_Render wrote:
sporqster wrote: In reply to Sky_Render: Then it would be no worse than it is today without the tint
So you're saying that once every does this, *things will be exactly the same as they are now.*

With regard to glare coming off other drivers headlights, yes. But benefits from sun glare would remain.

sporqster
sporqster Reader
1/11/13 9:08 a.m.

Don't think I explained myself well in original post with words. Maybe a doodle will help.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo UltimaDork
1/11/13 9:10 a.m.

Wut if they polarize the Sun?

sporqster
sporqster Reader
1/11/13 9:19 a.m.

Depending on orientation of polarization, it will appear to be a black hole sun through the windshield. cue Soundgarden

N Sperlo
N Sperlo UltimaDork
1/11/13 9:24 a.m.

"Wash away the raaaaaaain!"

Raze
Raze SuperDork
1/11/13 9:50 a.m.

I think what you want really is specific wavelength filters, problem is your eyeballs only process visible spectrum, so Ideally you'd want to block out say everyone else that runs broad-spectrum based lights, and get very specific spectrum lights your filter allows through...

ditchdigger
ditchdigger SuperDork
1/11/13 9:50 a.m.

Can you park the car facing a large blank wall about 15 feet away and snap a photo of the beam pattern?

I am interested to see what, if any control these flood lights have.

sporqster
sporqster Reader
1/11/13 10:07 a.m.

In reply to ditchdigger:

Not yet, still waiting on my transformer from Hong Kong to show up so I can finish the wiring. But soon, very soon.

Raze: Do not confuse wave length with orientation, I am only filtering out horizontally polarized light, but not significantly filtering any particular wavelength. So the windshield is still a "full color display". You are probably looking at linear polarized light right now (unless you have an old school CRT monitor)

If you or someone near your desk is into photography, borrow a linear polarized lens from them and read this on an LCD monitor while rotating the lens. Cool, eh? What I'm suggesting is turning my headlights into the same kind of light coming out of your monitor.

slantvaliant
slantvaliant SuperDork
1/11/13 11:53 a.m.

Not to derail this thread, but please tell me more about the thermal image on your avatar.

Driven5
Driven5 New Reader
1/11/13 12:04 p.m.

So they're not to be used on the street, and you're not going to use them on the street...Except for when you're using them on the street.

LOL...Got it!

N Sperlo
N Sperlo UltimaDork
1/11/13 12:07 p.m.
slantvaliant wrote: Not to derail this thread, but please tell me more about the thermal image on your avatar.

I'm interested as well.

SCARRMRCC
SCARRMRCC New Reader
1/11/13 12:46 p.m.
N Sperlo wrote:
slantvaliant wrote: Not to derail this thread, but please tell me more about the thermal image on your avatar.
I'm interested as well.

OHH OHH I KNOW!!!

it is his escort!

I bet it has something to do with this: http://www.littlelamborghini.com/?p=478

N Sperlo
N Sperlo UltimaDork
1/11/13 12:49 p.m.

Ah. Dual engine.

sporqster
sporqster Reader
1/11/13 1:16 p.m.

^^^ at Road Atlanta with this: http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/things-to-do-with-a-borrowed-thermal-imaging-camera/57960/page1/
The Cadillac Raytheon sourced camera was inspired by playing with the boss's FLIR, but is otherwise unrelated.

Raze
Raze SuperDork
1/11/13 1:50 p.m.

In reply to sporqster:

I understand where you were going, and am not confused by what you were saying, just throwing out there that if you wanted to 'shut off' the outside world and only play with your own light, wavelength tailoring is the way to go

sobe_death
sobe_death HalfDork
1/11/13 3:05 p.m.

With all these new eye tracking "alertness systems" being installed in the European luxury brands, and advances in actively tinting windows (ala Boeing 787), one wonders if a system couldn't be implemented with an LCD-type windscreen that only darkens the sources of light that are deemed "too bright". Could make sun visors a thing of the past...

NOHOME
NOHOME Dork
1/11/13 3:50 p.m.
sobe_death wrote: With all these new eye tracking "alertness systems" being installed in the European luxury brands, and advances in actively tinting windows (ala Boeing 787), one wonders if a system couldn't be implemented with an LCD-type windscreen that only darkens the sources of light that are deemed "too bright". Could make sun visors a thing of the past...

I believe this product has already been developed an taken to its logical conclusion. Well documented by Douglas Adams in his Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy:

Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Peril Sensitive Sunglasses

Designed to help the wearer develop a relaxed attitude to danger. The lenses turn completely black at the first hint of trouble, thus preventing the wearer from seeing anything that might alarm him/her.

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