My legacy GT may be a better to own but I love the brakes on this thing.
This one looks cool, but for that kind of money I will stick with Subaru simplicity.
My legacy GT may be a better to own but I love the brakes on this thing.
This one looks cool, but for that kind of money I will stick with Subaru simplicity.
snipes wrote: Volvo S60R The my legacy GT may be a better to own but I love the brakes on this thing.
I did a quick Kelley Blue Book check and they list that at about 13K so that price is about in line with current values. Just seems low.
In reply to Feedyurhed:
Ya, I was not thinking that particular car was that cheap; more that the S60Rs seem like a good value over all. But I am not sure what a Legacy spec B is worth these days either. I think of the Spec B as a cheaper Volvo which is a cheaper S4, if you get my thinking. I know I should have kept the R32 as they are still bringing good money.
KBB is crazy if for thinking I can sell my LGT for more than an R32. What do you guys think.
Okay, I looked at some other cars I like and this is what I found....
Would I be crazy to swap the Legacy for a 9-2X aero?
snipes wrote: Volvo S60R The my legacy GT may be a better to own but I love the brakes on this thing. This one looks cool, but for that kind of money I will stick with Subaru simplicity.
all 2004-2007 V or S R 6 speed manuals are desirable if you like Volvos, what they do, and the way they do it. The 2006-7 six speed auto boxes are much more desirable than the 2004-05 five speed auto boxes so that first one is not a car I personally would go after. 6 speed manual cars can be found for much less than 15k. The so the second one is very low miles and a six speed auto so it is a better deal.
swedespeed.com and v70r.com are good resources. They are cars that require research in order to know what to look for and to be able to determine which cars are deals. That goes without saying I suppose, but these cars can be very problematic or a real bargains. Here in Portland, great examples show up on Craig's list every couple of months and dissapear in one day, while the crappy deals are up for months, and price often has little to do with it.
Pros: Great performance, you can turn the suspension on and off (important on rough New England roads) low fuzz factor driving a soccer mom car, great seats and audio
Cons: very limited turning circle, 18 inch wheels rub, replacement part$ are expen$ive, limited supply
Just sold my 3rd one, and am kicking myself, but dollar$ are dollar$
I test drove a blue S60R when we were shopping for a larger car ( second child on the way) and I really liked it, but I would only want one with a manual.
It looked like this car except with gunmetal wheels. I am a SAAB guy but that car is soooo sexy.
The wagon versions of the car (S70R?, I can't remember) are awesome and I did see a few that had manual transmissions.
Not sure why anyone would sell his R32 though.... wish I had one of those!
I cross shopped the V60R and Legacy GT. In the end I went with the devil I knew: Subaru.
Also it's much cheaper to get more power out of the Subaru. The Volvo aftermarket is $$$
I drove a manual S60R a few years ago and thought it was nice, not that fast but it was nice. The seats are amazing. Now that we have a munchkin I'd love a V70R manual of the same generation. Not a fan of the OEM extra body kit though.
Recently detailed an '06 auto at work. Much want was involved, but we're asking like 18.5k...
I have not yet put my butt in a car that had better seats or seating position or seat and steering wheel adjust ability than a Volvo from the 120 series on (any make of the same era). I truly believe that is the basis for the brand loyalty. Not safety. Not turbo tweakability. Not reliability. Not long lividness. It is all to do with those thrones. If you have occasion to drive 6-12 hours at a time, Volvo's do it very exceptionally well. That is where they leave Subies in the ditch, .... covering big miles comfortably.
I agree: The areo package looks like E36 M3 and just gets smashed. the 18" wheel totally suck and kill performance and ride.
Shaun wrote: I have not yet put my butt in a car that had better seats or seating position or seat and steering wheel adjust ability than a Volvo from the 120 series on (any make of the same era). I truly believe that is the basis for the brand loyalty. Not safety. Not turbo tweakability. Not reliability. Not long lividness. It is all to do with those thrones. If you have occasion to drive 6-12 hours at a time, Volvo's do it very exceptionally well. That is where they leave Subies in the ditch, .... covering big miles comfortably.
+1 It was one of the first things I noticed with my 140. My 745t is my road trip car and I never feel sore after a 14 hour drive. Even the torn up leather in my parts 744t feel comfy after just a few minutes.
car39 wrote: Pros: Great performance, you can turn the suspension on and off (important on rough New England roads) low fuzz factor driving a soccer mom car, great seats and audio Cons: very limited turning circle, 18 inch wheels rub, replacement part$ are expen$ive, limited supply Just sold my 3rd one, and am kicking myself, but dollar$ are dollar$
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