i might be able to get a complete IROC body kit, but i don't know how much yet. not that i've really got any money to spend on the car right now..
but i kinda like having the rigged up looking car for some reason. it's been too long since i've had a car that i really didn't care what it looked like.
i just did some looking online, and apparently the cooling fan doesn't come on until 240 degrees.. the temp light never came on at all- NAPA site says it kicks on at 273 degrees (!!!!). so i was running with the temps between 240 and 273 degrees.. maybe it's better that i didn't have a temp gauge last night when i was driving it. it still ran fine and didn't ping or rattle when i gave it gas, and didn't make the 'tink tink' noises as it cools down or even boil over any coolant at all..
so why make everything flush? You trying to make it as "slippery" as possible or are you just doing it for E36 M3s and giggles?
I think if you block off the lower opening and open up the grill, the car will still be as aerodynamic (as an Fbody can be)
'87 Pontiac GTA is/was considered the most aero F-body and has ZERO fascia openings.
Hotlink:
I remember this Hot Rod Article from back in the day about the Banks T/A at Bonneville:
http://www.gtasourcepage.com/galebanksturbogta.html
As an F body can be...
it also looked good for that style
jamscal wrote: '87 Pontiac GTA is/was considered the most aero F-body and has ZERO fascia openings. Hotlink:
because the radiator gets all it's air from under the car. the camaro did have a couple of ducts at the grill depending on the model.
That model of GTA also has the most cooling problems, lol.
IMO, you're better off ducting air through your grill than from underneath. I've ripped that front air dam off of my old Camaro too many times to count, and it wasn't even lowered. If I had it to do over again, I'd put a panel between the front air dam and the radiator, as was mentioned above. You should still get enough low pressure behind the radiator to make it work right as a mouth breather.
jamscal wrote: '87 Pontiac GTA is/was considered the most aero F-body and has ZERO fascia openings. Hotlink:
that's kind of what i had in mind.
if it wasn't for the silly flip up headlights, i'd put a Firebird nose on it. the Camaro nose will do once i find/make some headlight covers.. also, i'd like to find a set of those hood vents..
novaderrik wrote:jamscal wrote: '87 Pontiac GTA is/was considered the most aero F-body and has ZERO fascia openings. Hotlink:that's kind of what i had in mind. if it wasn't for the silly flip up headlights, i'd put a Firebird nose on it. the Camaro nose will do once i find/make some headlight covers.. also, i'd like to find a set of those hood vents..
when I had my firebird, I was going to eliminate the popups by using quad projectors ala' C5R . Never did find a suitable (read cheap) set though. one day I will look again since my 240 has the same issue (popup headlights).
how about the smaller headlights used in the 93-97 Camaro and late 80's Cvev/GMC pickups? they are only 3" or so tall.
novaderrik wrote: i've got the front grille totally blocked off. i'm gonna keep it a bottom breather. the stock air deflector under the radiator is slightly lower than the air dam that i added, so i thought maybe it might pick up enough airflow to jam up thru the radiator core to keep it cool, but i guess not. the weird part is that the first part of my trip was in the 90 degree heat of the late afternoon, an the cooling fan never kicked on. but when i made my return trip at 11pm when it was 75 degrees, the fan kicked on. i also want to jam more air up in front of the radiator because that's where the air cleaners are, and a little bit of a ram air effect is never a bad thing.
Beware of deep puddles at moderate speeds.
novaderrik wrote: how about the smaller headlights used in the 93-97 Camaro and late 80's Cvev/GMC pickups? they are only 3" or so tall.
ever driven a cmarao or pickup with those aweful lights? I would rather drive a ford taurus with the plastic lenses so yellowed you cannot see the reflectors.. they are TERRIBLE. One of the few cars I know where you HAVE to run with the fogs on to see anything
mad_machine wrote:novaderrik wrote: how about the smaller headlights used in the 93-97 Camaro and late 80's Cvev/GMC pickups? they are only 3" or so tall.ever driven a cmarao or pickup with those aweful lights? I would rather drive a ford taurus with the plastic lenses so yellowed you cannot see the reflectors.. they are TERRIBLE. One of the few cars I know where you HAVE to run with the fogs on to see anything
my mom's fiance has a GMC with those lights, and it's just fine at night.
Ive got a 91 Trans Am, and have had quite a few Thirdgen firebird/trans ams over the years. as long as you have that air dam under the car, it'll stay cool.
the only time ive had cooling problems on any of them, the air dam was missing, once replaced it stayed cool.
U can easily hook u a fan switch to run them when u want, and keep the factory settings so it kicks on automatically at whatever super high temp the factory set (incase you forget to flip the switch),
newer cars got dual fans. Ive run them pretty hard, and as long as that air dam is in place and you have a fan switch for when u have to sit with the car running. they wont have any cooling issues.
use the openings in ur grill to run some ducting to an intake for ur motor, or your front brakes, if you plan to track it someday.
added this badge today. yeah, i know, it's pretty cool..
how much aero benefit would i see if i got some more edging and made some side skirts? i know it would make my new badge fit better on the car, if nothing else.. and is it best to put the skirt around under the back bumper, or is it best to leave that as it is so any air that is under the car has a way out?
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